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Dharxan said:
Good for you, my order for MBPRO 17/2.33/2G/160/256VRAM/SD-DL-GBR, should ship on or before 07.11.2006.

& estimate that it will be delivered to your shipping address on or before 14.11.2006.

That seems delayed - when did you place your order, and was it by phone or internet? Is it because you're getting a 17" screen? I ordered late last night, BTO'd 15", and it's set to ship 10/31 and arrive 11/7.

iBorg
 
iBorg20181 said:
That seems delayed - when did you place your order, and was it by phone or internet? Is it because you're getting a 17" screen? I ordered late last night, BTO'd 15", and it's set to ship 10/31 and arrive 11/7.

iBorg

The 17"s are all scheduled to ship a week after the 15".
 
Early arrivals!

In a few short hours the first shipments will be arriving. I hope folks look for issues people have talked about:

- Heating
- Airport reception of MBP vs MB which is typically better
- 802.11n card visible under Vista beta or Win XP
- moo
- real-life battery life (specifying apps used)

Publish your reports!

Publish links to reports on other sites!

Someone really should post an image of the latch and the HDD treatment just to settle it.

Rocketman
 
darkwing said:
People should remember that OSX is a UNIX system, and any UNIX system worth its salt caches all sorts of files to RAM. Those shared libraries aren't being loaded every time.. they're staying put.
Very good point, and one of the reasons why adding more RAM makes a system much faster - even if the applications per se don't need all the RAM.

Windows also benefits from extra RAM for file caching - basically any unused RAM is used to keep disk data handy. My desktop right now shows 1.2 GiB used for the cache, and my laptop is reading 840 MiB in the filesystem cache.

Still, the faster disk will be snappier for booting (you've got to jump all around the disk to grab those bits for cache) and all the other times when random disk IO is needed.
 
aaronon said:
About U.K HE discount. You are reading right. It's new, however the MBP price has gone up £60 , from £1088 - £1144

That 3 yr warranty sounds pretty good, if there's no catch.

My wife works for the NHS in the UK, and so now also gets a discount - but not sure if it's the same deal as the education discount?

Iain
 
Rocketman said:
In a few short hours the first shipments will be arriving. I hope folks look for issues people have talked about:

- Heating
- Airport reception of MBP vs MB which is typically better
- 802.11n card visible under Vista beta or Win XP
- moo
- real-life battery life (specifying apps used)

Publish your reports!

Publish links to reports on other sites!

Someone really should post an image of the latch and the HDD treatment just to settle it.

Rocketman


good call. made a new post here so nobody would miss it.
 
AidenShaw said:
Very good point, and one of the reasons why adding more RAM makes a system much faster - even if the applications per se don't need all the RAM.

Windows also benefits from extra RAM for file caching - basically any unused RAM is used to keep disk data handy. My desktop right now shows 1.2 GiB used for the cache, and my laptop is reading 840 MiB in the filesystem cache.

Still, the faster disk will be snappier for booting (you've got to jump all around the disk to grab those bits for cache) and all the other times when random disk IO is needed.

Aiden, I somehow knew you'd agree with me since you seem to be one of the few people on this board making valid points. Must be a silicon valley thing. ;) (though I did move to UT last month. Today marks my 1 month anniversary on the new job.)
 
question about RAM

Hey guys, Im planning on buying one of these new MBP's and I had a question about upgrading the RAM. I know the MBP has two slots for RAM and if I order the 2gb option it comes with 2X1 gb... in order to update it myself to 3 GB I would need to buy a 1x2 gb to replace one of the 1gb, right? I cant find a 1x2 gb for less than $600!!.... So, in this case, I would be saving money by updating to the 3 gb option through apple, and not installing it myself... (as I could do that for $517 with student discount...)

I dont know if I'm missing somthing... but everyone has always said update the RAM yourself... and in this case, i dont know if thats true.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ryan
 
Wow

SO glad I didn't buy one 2 weeks ago when I was in NH. I was seriously considering doing so because NH has no sales tax and it'd have saved me a decent chunk of change. Fortunately (I suppose) they didn't have in stock any 17" models with the 7200 rpm HD.

Now I really, really want one. My 1ghz G4 iBook is wearing thin for me.
 
iBorg20181 said:
That seems delayed - when did you place your order, and was it by phone or internet? Is it because you're getting a 17" screen? I ordered late last night, BTO'd 15", and it's set to ship 10/31 and arrive 11/7.

iBorg
I ordered it yesterday at about 3 pm over the internet here in the UK. I received e-mail conformation in the evening.
 
Term clarification

I know what a chip is, but could someone explain the difference between a chipset and a platform?

Thanx
 
mingspace said:
Which should I get? Glossy screen or no?

My dad recently got a macbook with a glossy screen, and I was amazed at how much brighter it was than our 3yr old PB.

There does seem to be a consensus that they reflect more light tho', but it didn't seem too bad under normal use I didn't think.

Can you get to a store to see both? Even if it's a PC store with both types of screen on display?

Iain
 
mingspace said:
Which should I get? Glossy screen or no?

You have posed an interesting question, here, my friend. Surely one that no one has posed before.

I recommend the glossy screen since it'll let you keep an eye on any enemies that might be approaching from behind.
 
Can you get this HE 3 year standard warranty at the Apple Stores in the U.K as well as online (Provided you have the student cards etc..)? Im just curious as this sounds like a really good deal, and could save quite a bit on applecare.
Thanks
 
zhd05 said:
Can you get this HE 3 year standard warranty at the Apple Stores in the U.K as well as online (Provided you have the student cards etc..)? Im just curious as this sounds like a really good deal, and could save quite a bit on applecare.
Thanks

I believe you only get the 3 year warranty online. It is only on HE purchases. I get it as a member of staff at a university, but my sister who is a high school teacher does not get it. So it is only on university purchases, I don't even think colleges get it. And I am almost positive you MUST buy online from the HE store of the university you are currently at.
 
psychometry said:
One is a set of chips and the other is a form of plats.
Eww, what kind of explanation is that? That's like saying a popcorn is a corn that pops. Put it simple, a platform is a set of hardware components that make up the computer itself and a chipset is a group of integrated circuits that are designed to work together (wikipedia) but in my point of view, the 2 terms are the same.
 
tarjan said:
Anyone call the stores yet?

Yeah, I called the 3 Apple stores in my immediate area and got conflicting answers from all of them.

One place told me they were getting them yesterday, for sure, but never actually did. Another place told me they won't get them till next week. And lastly, one place told me they had a waiting list (which I got on) and that they would call us ASAP when they arrive.

As far as I can tell, the people at the Apple store know nothing about when the Merom MBPs will arrive. :rolleyes:
 
barkins said:
As far as I can tell, the people at the Apple store know nothing about when the Merom MBPs will arrive. :rolleyes:
Yep that's true, my classmate that works at Apple says he doesn't know sh*t about product releases. It seems to me like he's more dumbfounded than everyone else. :p
 
mingspace said:
Which should I get? Glossy screen or no?

The best way is to just go to a store and compare the displays for yourself. Everyone seems to have a personal preference. However in less than 5 years matte displays on lcd screens will be a thing of the past.

LCD displays work by transmissivity. A backlight provides the initial illumination and an electric current is run throught the liquid crystal lattice altering the transmission properties for each individual cell. This allows different wavelengths of light (ie colors to be filtered) out of the initial light source. Unfortunately when the backlight is on Black is the hardest color to reproduce because all of the light must be filtered.

In the past LCD displays were dim, small, and low resolution. Matte coatings were applied to the screens to diffuse the transmitted light and smooth the jaggies out of a low-res display. It also helped to reduce glare so that the dim display could be seen better in direct lighting conditions.

Todays LCD displays are much higher-res and have much better transmissivity characteristics. Today high-end monitors are being produced with glossy coatings to allow more light to come through, improve black levels, and diffusion to reduce jaggies is no longer neccessary. In addition, todays LCD's are bright enough that glare isn't as big a problem. In most cases the transmitted image is bright enough to compensate for the reflected direct light.

Eventually matte displays will be elimnated by brighter, higher contrast glossy displays.Just like CD's eventually replaces phonographs. However there will always be those that look back fondly at the good ole days and remember their beautiful out-dated matte displays.
 
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