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Apple Releases First Beta of iOS 13.1 to Developers

rwilliams said:
Still two major problems with the iPadOS dock:
  • You still cannot rearrange icons in folders that are in your dock. It puts the icon on the home screen. You have to drag the folder onto the home screen and then move the icon back into the folder.
  • Multitasking with apps that are in folders on the dock is still broken and has been since about DB4. You used to be able to tap a folder in the dock to open it and then drag and app inside that folder for multitasking. Still broken here.
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Can’t multitask from the spotlight search still either. Still noticing weird random graphical glitches when dragging too. Sheesh.
 
iOS 13 (guess it was GM instead of beta 8) seemed fine for me, but then my search just stopped working, reboot fixed it then an hour or so later it just stopped working again, installing 13.1 to see if it fixes it.
 
I've been saying this for a while: I get the sense that there are going to be more things punted to 13.1. Specifically many of the Files app updates. Mail is still kinda glitchy, but you can't really punt that unless you revert to old mail.
 
ck2875 said:
Wild speculation: Maybe they decided the current iOS 13 is a hot mess and they’re aren’t going to be ready in time for the new phone release so they’re going to add support for new devices into what is essentially 12.4.2, call that iOS 13 and unofficially delay what’s been in iOS 13 to 13.1.

Not-so-wild speculation: I’m probably overthinking it and nothing is amiss.
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Nah, they are not going to release something labelled iOS 13 that has none of features publicly announced for iOS 13.

Most likely, they have just sort-of frozen the code that will be released as iOS 13 in that no big changes are allowed anymore and all changes are focussed on getting something sufficiently bug-free out by the release date of the next iPhones. And all changes that aren't essential (eg, some performance improvements but also some actual user-facing features) and more fundamental fixes are hived off into a 13.1 stream.
 
rwilliams said:
  • Multitasking with apps that are in folders on the dock is still broken and has been since about DB4. You used to be able to tap a folder in the dock to open it and then drag and app inside that folder for multitasking. Still broken here.
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If you drag the app and then use another digit to dismiss the folder, it still works.
 
rjohnstone said:
A lot of buildings simply skip the number 13 when labeling floors.
Technically the 13th floor still exists, it's just relabeled as the 14th floor.
Disneyland Resort's main hotel in California does this for all three buildings.
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In my apartment building, the apartments go ....10, 11, 12, 12A, 14.

(Which personally being in #12, it made for a weird night last year when someone in 12A had someone staying with them one weekend. Their guest went out and got very drunk, came back without their friend, and spent 20 minutes trying to key into my apartment. I didn’t want to scare them by opening my door to tell them to stop, but they eventually figured out that they should have been trying 12A.)
 
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So if I’m planning on getting a new iPhone in September.. should I avoid 13.1 and just stay on beta 8? I want to be able to use my backup on my new phone.
 
Just updated on iPad Mini 4 - automatically, even though I had automatic updates turned off -

And folder backgrounds no longer work correctly.
 

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They had to choose a point in time to move forward with flashing the new iPhones. I would guess that in order to fix more stuff, they might have broken more things and would not have time to get it resolved.

Maybe iOS 13.1 will be out at the end of Sept, early Oct?

I do think the big changes that iOS 13 brought caught up with them in needing to have it ready for the iPhone launch in Sept. If the phone was to launch in Oct it would have given them more time, but they just did not have time.

As someone said the new stuff is coming to "iOS 13", it never said iOS 13.0 :)
 
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if the GM installed on the new phones next month is 13 and beta testers are on 13.1 that will screw up the back-up/restore process for the new phones - right?
 
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terandle said:
Oh that would be a twist if they never release 13.0 for the old/current devices. Everyone has to wait for 13.1
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They won't wait for a 13.1 label. There will be a 13.0.1 released relatively shortly after the new phones ship. Because the phones come pre-installed with iOS 13.0 and it has to be put on them before shipping out of China, development will have gone on and by the time the phones hit actual consumers there will be a week or two of extra development that gets released as 13.0.1, which can also include fixes to some glaring problems discovered only after iOS 13 has been released to the public.

Somebody buying a new iPhone on day one might thus get a slightly different build number than those downloading iOS 13 on the same day, even though both will be labelled iOS 13.0.
 
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sammy2066 said:
With beta 8, things seemed better at first, but then it’s almost like the Mail app is susceptible to wear and tear - the more I use it, the buggier and less stable it becomes. It only started crashing after sending emails today (something which hasn't occurred since the early betas). I’m really flummoxed. But one thing is clear, at least for me, this has categorically been the worst/buggiest/least stable developer beta run ever - I didn’t think they could top the iOS 7 developer beta phase, but they sure managed. Well done Timmy and Co.
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Mail is absolutely atrocious right now. I do not get an unread badge on the app icon even though it's enabled, when a message is received and the app is opened, there will be a blank space where the email is. You can click it and open it, but it's just a blank space. Notifications are very slow to come with mail as well. It's a hot damn mess right now.
 
The size of the update has me very confused and thinking. So normally a new beta round the first beta is a full size update. These are small which means they are a continuation update. Could Apple be planning to skip iOS 13 or release just for a few days and release 13.1 right after. I mean let's face it, iOS 13 was some of the worst betas until the last few.
 
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The availability of 13.1 beta even before the official 13 release tells me that Apple is acknowledging that they're not going to finish everything they want to finish before launch and want to finalize 13 — even if imperfect — and continue working on the final fixes as soon as possible so that 13.1 is available soon after the release of 13. This is consistent with what we've been seeing in the betas. They're still unusually buggy for this late stage in the cycle.
 
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