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Apple Releases Leopard 9A557/9A559 Seed Update

TheSpecialist said:
Great news! Cmon, Golden Master!!!🙄 I think they are really going to make an announcement soon. I mean, whe're already in Octobre! I really wan't to know when we can enjoy Leopard....
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Yeah, an announcement would help detract from the iPhone backlash. Plus, I can't wait for it. 😀
 
R I has more benefits then new 2008 displays, it counters the distances people sit from the screen, without turning the resolution down and everything goes chunky and ugly but readable
 
motulist said:
Networking fixes and Software Update system fixes? Those sound like big issues to be working on for something close to a release candidate, don't you think? Considering a turn around time of 2 weeks to go from golden master to pressed, packaged and delivered product, that means Apple only has 2 weeks to have the OS totally completed.

Those sound like big issues to be working on with 2 weeks left on the clock.
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Loading up the last build of Leopard (9A559 ) on an iMac G4 with an Airport Extreme card caused the wireless network to slow to a crawl. Switching back to Tiger the wireless had full signal and blazed along. They do have issues to address before GM.
 
Ironduke said:
R I has more benefits then new 2008 displays, it counters the distances people sit from the screen, without turning the resolution down and everything goes chunky and ugly but readable
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Don't forget people with bad eyesight with the same problem...
 
Again, you do realize that you can't just upscale a web page without breaking 50% of them, which will cause you to come closer to the screen, again.

It is really sad how little insight (and how big mouths) some people have.
 
hotdamn said:
Again, you do realize that you can't just upscale a web page without breaking 50% of them, which will cause you to come closer to the screen, again.

It is really sad how little insight (and how big mouths) some people have.
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Most websites can be scaled one CMD+ stage with little or no harm...
 
I've been meaning to ask someone to try an app in Leopard. Does anyone know if SMCFanControl works in Leopard. Its a must have before I upgrade.
 
In reply to Psychofreak:
Except the randomly shifting images.

Click on the hit reply button and check out how everything but the fonts remains the same size, for example the whole bold, italic etc. stuff, the smilies, ... it does not really make matters a whole lot better.
 
Ironduke said:
R I has more benefits then new 2008 displays, it counters the distances people sit from the screen, without turning the resolution down and everything goes chunky and ugly but readable
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On a fixed pixel display anything other then native resolution for that display is going to look bad. RI will help but it is still dealing with a fixed pixel device.

Once you get a display with smaller/more pixels this ugliness will be reduced since it has more pixels to work with.
 
I can hear that famous music... "Ladies and Gentlemen...... leeeetsssss get ready to RUMBLE!!!" Gold Master is only days away. We are in October, and Leopard is only a few weeks away! I would expect to see a media invite soon! Since I can already see another special event soon, the invites should be going out soon! Maybe in the next few days?? 🙄 Common' Apple... give us an update! :apple:
 
hotdamn said:
In reply to Psychofreak:
Except the randomly shifting images.

Click on the hit reply button and check out how everything but the fonts remains the same size, for example the whole bold, italic etc. stuff, the smilies, ... it does not really make matters a whole lot better.
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It sure does for my grandad, who has quite bad eyesight...he often is on news websites and increasing the text size on a long article is useful to him, even if the images to shift around a little.
 
hotdamn said:
Again, you do realize that you can't just upscale a web page without breaking 50% of them, which will cause you to come closer to the screen, again.

It is really sad how little insight (and how big mouths) some people have.
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As a graphic designer and not a developer, that is something I have been wondering. For photoshop i've been wanting the new hi-res screens, but then when it comes to building/coding/viewing websites I can't figure out how that would be done! I work for clients with customer demographics who have diverse enough equipment to necessitate that I still build in 800x600px. 800x600px would be about 3x1.8" on new hi res displays - not very functional.? Any thoughts?
 
SiliconAddict said:
I've been meaning to ask someone to try an app in Leopard. Does anyone know if SMCFanControl works in Leopard. Its a must have before I upgrade.
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Odd thing is, I haven't needed it. Not sure if they are doing something different, but my machine under leopard runs much cooler then under tiger.
 
My PREDICTION is that Apple will put up the ticker tomorrow. But, don't get mad at me saying it didn't tomorrow, because this is my opinion. I saw so many people try to bring faith to iPhone users by saying that the firmware update 1.1.1 was coming out "tonight" or "tomorrow". I am not trying to say anything, but it's about time that Apple at least gave us an exact date!🙂
 
gusapple said:
My PREDICTION is that Apple will put up the ticker tomorrow. But, don't get mad at me saying it didn't tomorrow, because this is my opinion. I saw so many people try to bring faith to iPhone users by saying that the firmware update 1.1.1 was coming out "tonight" or "tomorrow". I am not trying to say anything, but it's about time that Apple at least gave us an exact date!🙂
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I agree! It WILL be very soon!!:apple:
 
Hi

Glad to hear Leopard is getting closer.

Don't know if anybody else has noticed, but the UK Apple store has had a refresh, and Tiger is no longer on the front page, either on its own or under any of the Top 10s. You can still find it if you click on Apple Software though. Probably not surprising - but it stood out to me.

Renko
 
Oh dear. Seem to be a few bugs in this lastest seed.

This is -really- weird. I'm a Firefox user but opened Safari to show a friend web clip and after updating, Safari doesn't seem to have that functionality. In addition, the buttons have been reverted from the metal Leopard look to how they look in Tiger. Picture below.
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index.php
 
InLikeALion said:
As a graphic designer and not a developer, that is something I have been wondering. For photoshop i've been wanting the new hi-res screens, but then when it comes to building/coding/viewing websites I can't figure out how that would be done! I work for clients with customer demographics who have diverse enough equipment to necessitate that I still build in 800x600px. 800x600px would be about 3x1.8" on new hi res displays - not very functional.? Any thoughts?
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The biggest problem with resolution independence is the internet. Just because you can scale text up doesn't mean every other pixel-perfect image, graphic and icon won't look awful. I don't see how this can be achieved in even the next five years. I suppose you could scale it at exact multiples to preserve pixel edges... I'm trying to imagine how many years it will take before everything on the internet isn't 72 dpi.


PS... I don't know what Peace's deal is or where the hell he comes from.... but I wouldn't bet against him!
 
SiliconAddict said:
Dumb but true. Only the zealots don't see it.
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Am I wrong, or was Leopard in development before the iPhone. Am I wrong, or are Leopard and the iPhone in two separate departments. Am I wrong, or does Leopard's development have nothing to do with the iPhone. Am I wrong, or do most mac users not give a **** about the iPhone and would love to see you babies quit whining? Am I wrong, or is whatever problem 1% of the iPhone customers have not going to ruin Apple.
 
If there isn't any annoucement on Tuesday or at least by Friday of a shipping date then I am going to get worried. I am sure the duplication process is getting setup for a massive effort to get these things out.

I like the theory that Leopard is ready and they are just working on the first download update.
 
decksnap said:
The biggest problem with resolution independence is the internet. Just because you can scale text up doesn't mean every other pixel-perfect image, graphic and icon won't look awful. I don't see how this can be achieved in even the next five years. I suppose you could scale it at exact multiples to preserve pixel edges... I'm trying to imagine how many years it will take before everything on the internet isn't 72 dpi.
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It doesn't take everything...people would be mostly satisfied if only around 30 major websites changed, and those are normally the ones with enough money to do so 🙂
 
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