I believe Fortnite on Android is side-loaded - so the original post was comparing apples and oranges, so to speak.
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Apple Removes Fortnite From App Store [Update: Epic Files Lawsuit Against Apple]
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I believe Fortnite on Android is side-loaded - so the original post was comparing apples and oranges, so to speak.
They removed it from the store, not from devices. Had they pushed a "force removal" from devices, that would be an entirely different thing.
As for the screenshot earlier fo the Fortnite app showing the payment options, that didn't look real to me. Look at the size of the notch.
As for the screenshot earlier fo the Fortnite app showing the payment options, that didn't look real to me. Look at the size of the notch.
but that’s like shopping in a Walmart and the. Deciding you actually only want to pay the manufacturer. The infrastructure and shopping experience you just want to act like it’s not their. And also Apple is providing these guys tools too
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If Apple didn't review it, that means app developers can add arbitrary code to existing approved apps somehow?
What's the purpose of the app review process then? If they could add a new payment option without a new version update, could some rogue developer add malware?
What's the purpose of the app review process then? If they could add a new payment option without a new version update, could some rogue developer add malware?
This. They tried their hand at a power play cause the EU and co. are watching. Wouldn‘t be surprised if there‘s more to come and they work together with other high profile app makers (Microsoft maybe with Office 365?) to create an app exodus so Apple looks even worse infront of regulators.
Interesting. Epic are playing out some kind of pre-planned strategy here. They knew what would happen and they’ve had that little 1984 video ready to go too.
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at their headquarters when they were planning this little end-run.
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at their headquarters when they were planning this little end-run.
The minute you can sideload apps piracy and malware is going to ruin everything great about iPhone. Those of us who care about security choose the walled garden.
You think Apple will drop the 30% cut and not just price devices higher to make up for it? You think it will hurt Apple? It will take one year for Samsung to follow along.
Think software developers aren't going to raise prices to combat lost sales due to piracy? You don't think DRM will get worse?
Do you not think Facebook/Instagram/Tiktok will go straight to another appstore and that they won't violate iPhone security writing APIs that break privacy protections in iOS 14? If Apple doesn't control the app they can't control abuse. Chrome from the chrome store we promise it doesn't monitor everything on the phone 24/7.
Don't get me started on MDM. MDM on iPhone is bareable because you know exactly what your company is doing to your device. MDM solutions will be the first to leave the appstore and do whatever they want. You think you will be able to download apps from third party appstores? Ha.
You want Amazon apps have to install the Amazon store on your phone. Want Google Apps install the google apps store. They all have thier own rules they all want your credit card in their super secure (we promise) PCI environments.
Yes this is what you all want.
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Just hours after Epic Games introduced a new direct payment option for Fortnite that skirts Apple's in-app purchase rules, Apple has pulled the Fortnite app from the App Store.
Fortnite is no longer available for download on the iPhone or the iPad, and Apple provided a statement to MacRumors on Fortnite's removal:This morning, Epic Games began letting players purchase 1,000 V-Bucks in the Fortnite app for $7.99, with the purchases going directly to Epic Games rather than using Apple's in-app purchase system.
At the time, it was not known if Epic Games had some kind of special permission from Apple to introduce such a feature as it is a clear violation of Apple's App Store rules surrounding in-app purchases. Given that the app has now been pulled from the App Store, it appears that Epic Games willingly violated Apple's requirements by offering the direct payment plan.
Rule 3.1.1 of Apple's App Store guidelines states that apps that offer in-game currencies need to use the in-app purchase mechanism. Apps are prohibited from including buttons, links, or other calls to action that ask customers to use non-Apple approved payment methods. Epic Games made the direct payment option available in the in the United States, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Spain, the United Kingdom, and other countries, and said that because apps that offer real-life goods and services like Uber and StubHub are not required to use Apple's in-app purchase mechanism, Fortnite should be entitled to the same treatment. Epic Games has also called Apple and Google's 30 percent commission on in-app purchases "exorbitant."
In response to Apple's statement and the removal of Fortnite from the App Store, Epic Games announced a new Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite short premiering at 4:00 p.m. Eastern Time, which appears to be a riff on Apple's famous 1984 ad.
Epic Games' stand against Apple comes as Apple is facing a U.S. antitrust investigation over its App Store rules and policies and as Apple is recovering from another very public dispute over the "Hey" email app.
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Good, well done apple.
If you want the game, pay the extra.
It cost money to have a store front to sell from.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.... should have revoked their certificate too
Sideloading would be optional and you can still be app store only if you want.
Good on Apple. Just because Epic are big does not give them a free ride and the right to compete unfairly with everyone else.
Interesting. I am not aware of this functionality and did not come across anything explaining this in detail after a brief search. Do you know of any resources that I can read about this? Curious to learn how it is done and the policy about it.
Until apps leave the appstore so you don't have a choice.
Ok so let me ask you this:
Right now Apple is trying to maintain, unlike with other streaming apps, which stream Music and Video to your device via the app store app.
Apple are saying if this app streams a game stream as opposed to a music of film stream it won't allow it, as it cannot vet and review every single game that gets streamed (though they don't with music and video streaming)
Do you personally think Apple will stick to their guns on this or back down on this eventually and allow it?
I am saying they will back down. they may give some other technical reason to cover their backing down.
But they will.........
Are you saying they won't and they will not change this policy and allow streaming game systems, like from Microsoft, Google Stadia and others around now, with more to come over the next few years?
Apple likely have checks in place for this reason, I expect there are several scans of the application and then any updates that occur. Could a package be located on another server and a simple call-for link be within the application using a logic bomb? Perhaps but doubtful. It wouldn't surprise me if each application/update is Sandboxed by an automatic bot which checks for all these tactics.
Looks like they just played right into Epic's hands... They seem prepared, unlike Spotify.
Whose dollars built that customer base to market to? That wasn't "free"
If you ever run a business you know that stuff isnt free in life. You build it or buy it; only 2 ways about it. Getting your service/product in front of customer eyes is literally the hardest and costliest part. They want it for free; and that's reasonable?
Or Apple can bill every developer for every download to make it fair then; since its hosted by Apple. 90% or more of the App store would vanish since it's free apps or IAP though.
Just another reason why it’s time for me personally to try something new. Just not feeling Apple and its way of doing things at present.
Well Epic Games, you have just burnt your reputation
Good luck getting you next game in Apple App Store, or even Google App Store
Good luck getting you next game in Apple App Store, or even Google App Store
