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Apple Reportedly Launching Larger iPad in October 2014, Larger iPhone in May 2014

Renzatic said:
Yup. More people know about and use iOS, and Apple has more control over the platform as a whole. Even though I doubt it'll happen anytime soon, I do see it replacing at least the Macbooks at some point, once the iPads are able to match then for capabilities, and it becomes redundant to keep them both around.
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I can't see Apple offering only iOS devices and Mac desktops. And pro Macs aren't going to be running iOS. So, if Apple still offers laptops, why wouldn't they continue to have OS X running on it? A computer with a keyboard is not going to run iOS only without the ability to run traditional apps and without a system to manage files. Perhaps all this will happen if Apple just dumps OS X and their laptops and desktops altogether, but Apple's recent moves indicate that this isn't going to happen.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Never mind what Jobs would say - he isn't at Apple anymore. Apple under Tim Cook hasn't ever released anything of interest in the first half of the year! Thus, not a chance of a May release for an iPhone 6.

Although, if they do that, I'll be all over it. I'm on an iPhone 4S that has gone through over 800 charge cycles and now only lasts ~8 hours with the screen off. With the screen on and me doing stuff, it drops to ~2.5 hours.
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How are you checking the charge cycle count of your phone? Just curious.
 
icolove said:
Do NOT get rid of the 11" Macbook Air under any circumstance. The 13" is too big and the iPad is horrible for real work.
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I have to agree, exactly.

iOS is not for real work, and the 11" Air is a full Mac, with a phenomenal amount of functionality, not much bigger than the current iPads.

The only thing that needs improving in the 11" Air is the screen and its viewing angle, but for size & what it does, it's the greatest Mac ever made. The 13" Air might as well be a MacBook Pro, and most commentators have realised this.

The 11" is the only Mac worthy of the title Air. The iPad Air, like The New iPad (3), will fall by the wayside, once the public is used to a lighter iPad.

A 14" iPad would fatally expose the limitations of iOS for real work, to the point that it may actually hurt the brand, and that's not good for Apple.

I'd love to see a decent 11" or 12" Touch Mac. Nobody wants a Touch Mac OS more than I, but iOS doesn't cut it. And we've seen nothing from Apple to show that they've cracked the touch computer. It would need to lay flat like an iPad, even for the 27". Waving hands in the air doesn't work for more than 5 minutes. A physical keyboard would still be needed, but a good Touch OS needs to be able to take care of all the on-screen elements, and replace the mouse/touchpad gestures which have become quite sophisticated.

iOSification of MacOS is fine for non-computer users moving to Mac, to get apps launched, but that's as far is iOS can go. Pages and Numbers on iOS are at times, fun, and you can see it could be good on a Mac, but we're nowhere near full function or efficiency. iOS is simple and tedious because it was made for limited hardware, needing a long battery life.

Sometimes I dearly wish I could touch the screen of my 11" Air, but I also know, the touch concepts in iOS are woefully inadequate.

The mind-numbingly inconsistent interface in iOS 7 doesn't bode well, either. The same functions are sometimes at the top, other times at the bottom of the screen. Sometimes words, sometimes icons. You can't Share from the Camera app, but you can from an almost identical interface in the Photos app.

Hopefully this is due to the incredibly short amount of time allowed to Jony the interface, but iOS seriously needs consistent Human Interface Guidelines—ike the old Mac OS days. OS X falls short, just not as disastrously as iOS.

Like all Digitimes speculation, this rumour is just guesses, based on part orders, and that's taking things too far. It's more appealing proposing products rather than posting numbers of parts, but I think we'd all rather hear about what's being ordered in what quantities and where this normally tracks with historical product releases. Not as sexy, but far more useful.

A bigger iPhone screen. I wish…
 
sseaton1971 said:
The white unibody MacBook was replaced with the MacBook Air, and they still offered the white unibody MacBook to the education market well after it was officially pulled from the general public. There is no way Apple will replace their entry level laptop unless they are making some sort of hybrid device that comes in at the same price. That seems extremely unlikely, though.

An iOS device is not a replacement for an OS X computer for many users. Apple has also said repeatedly that iOS and OS X will borrow from each other, but they won't merge. Apple even stated that the new naming convention for OS X will take them another 10 years into the future.
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I don't see Apple building a one size fits all OS. Maybe they're working on a hybrid device that will run both OSX and iOS?
 
Rogifan said:
When is DigiTimes ever correct? The stuff here is laughable. Apple is going to release a new phone in May before WWDC which is in June? Or is Apple moving WWDC up to April then? Makes no sense. And this larger iPad is supposed to target the educational market yet they claim it might replace one of Apple's most popular Macs? Huh? Again makes no sense.
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Exactly. Really is silly. They're claiming that Apple is going to move away from their yearly updates to the iPhone and go to 6 month cycle? Not buying it. They've updated yearly since 2007 when the first iPhone was released. Why would they suddenly change that now?
 
A larger iPad would be targeted at the business and education sectors. Put on walls for teachers to use as a second writing and display surface in classrooms, designers and architects to design and show their creations better, boardroom executives to show their reports and Doctors to view patient notes and medical data.

It would not be designed for a person to use lounging on a sofa to look at Facebook.

As for a larger iPhone, I'm still rocking the iPhone 4 qnd cope well with the screen size, however my step mum has a much larger Galaxy and must say it still feels good in the hand due to how thin and light it is ... But my only issue with a larger phone being grtting it in my pocket. So the comment that larger phones are for people with bags tho not nice is actually not that far from the truth, i don't want Apple to make huge devices that from an ergonomic viewpoint are impractical.

We will though have to remember these are just the wildest of early rumours and the final products if released may resemble little to whats being apoke of now.
 
So in the rendering, why does the 12.9" iPad screen look way bigger than the 13" MacBook Air screen? Just perspective? Doesn't look right.
 
Rogifan said:
I don't see Apple building a one size fits all OS. Maybe they're working on a hybrid device that will run both OSX and iOS?
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Apple is moving towards a single OS. iOS and OS X keep getting more and more additions to bring them inline with each other. Apple would LOVE to make it a requirement that all apps have to come from the App Store. They've already taken initial steps to make that happen by forcing signed and App Store only apps by default (meaning developers have to pay). The next step is to allow only apps through the App Store (under the guise that it's for security reasons). Other changes to the core of the OS are making the two slowly integrated for future push to make it a single OS.
 
Rogifan said:
I don't see Apple building a one size fits all OS. Maybe they're working on a hybrid device that will run both OSX and iOS?
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Now, that would be pretty cool. Imagine having one device that runs OS X, iOS, and Windows apps.
 
A large iPad would be great IF its also a full computing system with the ability to run multiple applications on the desktop like a laptop. I could go for that no problem.
 
Nevaborn said:
A larger iPad would be targeted at the business and education sectors. Put on walls for teachers to use as a second writing and display surface...
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The size being tossed around would not be an acceptable size for students to see from their desks/tables or across the room. A device like this would be way too expensive (and breakable) to put in the hands of kids. I can't imagine that this (potential) product is for education.

Also, I work in education, and I have not heard even one person say they wish they had a larger iPad. I can see a device like this used in other areas, but large scale deployment in education isn't likely to happen.
 
Cappy said:
In my opinion the MacBook Air as we know it will be phased out and replaced with an ARM based system. There's a reason apple stressed the desktop class comments about their latest CPU and rewrote the iWork suite which I think is to bring better compatibility with ARM. They might even do the same with the Mac mini. This could also be the nail in the coffin for AppleScript.

Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah I think this is very well possible. I mean if the iPad Air's ARM CPU can run that retina display, then the next-gen ARM processor should be able to handle a MacBook Air retina display. And when you look at battery performance, this new Air could be super thin with an even better battery life than the current one. They could make the bezel smaller and make it more like the 11 inch model in terms of outside dimensions. I doubt battery life will go much beyond 12 hours because at some point it wouldn't be worth the trade off.

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QCassidy352 said:
Ugh. Please no. I have both a laptop and an iPad, and the latter is not a replacement for the former.
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No I think this "rumored device" will just be the next generation MacBook Air running OSX Mavericks. I don't think an even larger iPad makes sense.
 
Markyyy said:
Stupid statement. Because that poster obviously values both a larger display AND the iOS operating system. You are the type of person who makes forums less respectable and full of worthless **** content.
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I'm glad your post are adding to the content. I'm sure everyone greatly values your opinion :D.

The OP has to then decide which he values more. A larger screen or IOS. If it's a larger screen, I would switch now unless you are locked into a contract. Apple probably doesn't read this forum and they do what they want to do in any case. Nobody really knows what Apple will do in the future so you should base your decisions on current Apple products.

Threatening to switch is also worthless. Either you switch or you don't. Most people don't care what you choose and would congratulate you for whatever choice you make.
 
sseaton1971 said:
An iOS device is not a replacement for an OS X computer for many users. Apple has also said repeatedly that iOS and OS X will borrow from each other, but they won't merge. Apple even stated that the new naming convention for OS X will take them another 10 years into the future.
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There are actually very few people who use an iPad as a replacement for a MacBook. The huge, huge majority of iPad users use it as a replacement for some kind of PC or Windows laptop, unless they are either young kids or non-computer users who never seriously used a computer in their life.

That's something to keep in mind when looking at what Apple does. There's one department saying "there are gazillions of people wanting to use a laptop, and we'll convince some to use a MacBook". and another department saying "there are gazillions of people who are not really happy with a laptop, and we'll convince some to use an iPad". People who are torn between Mac and iPad are a tiny minority.

And for that reason, claiming that Apple would introduce any iPad model to replace any Mac model is pure nonsense. That bigger iPad would be aimed mostly at some percentage of the PC laptop market that isn't switching to iPads because they are too small.

And that puts "multiple apps on the screen" into perspective. That's something that Mac users do, but they are a minority (and Apple isn't interested in moving that minority to iPads anyway). PC users tend much more to have "maximised" apps that cover the whole screen.
 
Good if I can run all of my MacOS applications on it as well as all of my iOS applications. Ad a SDXC card slot, USB port, Thunderbolt port and hook it to a attachable/detachable keyboard that has a track pad and I/O ports (a docking station with additional USB, FW, another SDXC) and it gets very interesting.

What we need is Legacy Support. All the way back to MacOS Classic at the very least so that we can bring all of our computers into the future but still access our older data and applications. This can be provided by having an automatic cross compiler, provided by Apple, that recompiles old applications to the new operating system and hardware, adjusting the necessary API hooks and adding the touch interface layer. It's doable. Apple would greatly expand their market if they did this. They have the billions of dollars. The development for this legacy support is trivial for them. The hardware has the capacity, easily, to do the work even in enveloped emulation. They are the best qualified to do the job.

I would buy that. In fact I would buy a bunch of them to replace most of our MacBook transportables.
 
Piggie said:
It's going to be a disaster........

According to people on these forums. It's must be at least 50% if not 75% of iPhone users who say any size increase would be wrong, and the current size is correct, unlike larger unmanageable Android phone.

Given this fact, based upon many remarks on this forum area, sales will be much lower of any new larger model don't you think?
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I think you might have it a little mixed up. According to the poll earlier this year for new 5s features the bigger screen was far and away the most asked for feature.

I would almost bet if they do up the screen size they keep a smaller model as well so I don't think it will be a huge deal.
 
Renzatic said:
It's the aspect ratio. A 13" 4:3 screen will have a tiny bit more display area than a 13" 16:10 screen.
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Even if you're completely right when the diagonal size is the same, in this case the difference is really marginal:
513 cm² for 13.3" 8:5 vs 515 cm² for 12.9" 4:3
The perspective is not really good in this picture. Anyway a 13" iPad is a bad idea :p
 
sseaton1971 said:
I can't see Apple offering only iOS devices and Mac desktops. And pro Macs aren't going to be running iOS. So, if Apple still offers laptops, why wouldn't they continue to have OS X running on it? A computer with a keyboard is not going to run iOS only without the ability to run traditional apps and without a system to manage files. Perhaps all this will happen if Apple just dumps OS X and their laptops and desktops altogether, but Apple's recent moves indicate that this isn't going to happen.
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Right now, no. I'm talking about a potential future still a little ways away. The way I see it, touch is going to become the de facto standard way we interact with our computers in about 10 years time. People have already gotten used to it, and we've got an entire generation growing up using nothing but. Mice and touchpads are going to be specialized tools you use within certain programs, rather than the main method of interaction.

During this time, we're gonna see tablet hardware become far more powerful, and iOS will become more capable and flexible. Pretty soon, we're gonna be seeing equivalent touch-centric versions of applications we normally associate with laptops and desktops specifically. Photoshop. Lightroom and Aperture. Office. Maybe even higher end programs like Max, Maya, and Modo. And when that point comes, what's the difference between a tablet and a laptop besides the fact that one uses a cursor, and the other your finger? If you can do the exact same thing just as easily on a tablet, what's the point of having a divide between them and laptops? One will have segued into the other. When this happens, Apple will question why they should keep "classic" OSX around as their main productivity platform, when iOS is just as capable.

It might not be as all encompassing, out with the old, in with the new, as I'm making it out to be. But it's not hard to imagine a point even now where the iPads eventually replace the Macbook Airs.
 
prowlmedia said:
Why you poor chap? Do you have bad eyesight? Or Giant pockets?

Large phones are for girls with handbags or men with Size 'issues'
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A larger phone means you don't need to carry a tablet with you. They're called phablets for a reason. One device to serve all your needs during the day. A 7" tablet (my Nook Color) can barely fit into my pants pockets. A 6" phone would glide in with room to spare.

You might be thinking, who wants to put a 6" phone up to their face? That's what Bluetooth is for.
 
prowlmedia said:
Why you poor chap? Do you have bad eyesight? Or Giant pockets?

Large phones are for girls with handbags or men with Size 'issues'
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Actually, I do have poor eyesight and would enjoy a reasonably larger screen. There are lots of visually impaired people who would say the same. Size is an issue when one is struggling to see. But you'll know this one day when your older ... I wonder how humorous you'll find it.

Noël.
 
GadgetDon said:
The timelines are all wrong.

iOS allows developers to create apps that automatically grow as screen size increases, but almost nobody does that. Instead, they do layouts based on specific screen sizes: iPhone portrait, iPhone landscape, iPad portrait, iPad landscape. If large iPhones are coming, Apple will be dropping serious hints at WWDC "You know, you should turn on that autogrow feature, have it grow for different sized screens".
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Well, there is a huge difference between Portrait and Landscape. And the size difference between iPhone and iPad is also huge, so you make design decisions that are not just "make it bit larger / smaller", but for example on the iPad you want to show two things at the same time, where on the iPhone it doesn't make sense. So small vs. large and Portrait vs. Landscape makes sense.

With 4" vs. 3.5" iPhone, I hope they learned to use (slightly) different screen sizes.
 
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