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I love my iPhone XS but after seeing the XR hands on a few days after it was released, I sort of had buyers remorse. It’s an incredible deal for what you get, and its a perfect size compared to the XS and XS Max. The XS is a beautiful device with the OLED display, but beyond that, its value is diminished compared to the XR becuase it’s way overpriced. If I were still within my return period I would have definitely given the XR serious consideration.
 
The screen is the component that has to be good enough. This, in my opinion, and that, in your opinion. It has to be good enough and the XRs' screen is at that price. It's nearly equivalent to OLED and has the vaunted apple accuracy.

Its nowhere close to OLED which is why its on Apple's budget phone and why there is no LCD flagship.

The XR out techs the 8 plus and in 2018 the price is the price.

Can you explain how?
 
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While I agree the prices are getting out of hand these prices are not realistic at all. Your products are not old, no need to replace what is working perfectly well...
That is true, I personally have scheduled my upgrades fro 2020.
 
It pisses me off. Apple has really lost its mind. Why would I have to pay more for something that is not worth it??? They don’t include the super charger, the headphone jack adapter and they charge you more??
Why do they have different promotion strategies in Japan, USA but not in every country?
The value perception on current phones is wrong. People noticed and they did too!

It really pisses me off but my plan is to get a note 9. I no longer see the value on these phones anymore.
 
I used to buy the flagship every year. Now since they have become as greedy as they possibly can my policy is to just buy the phone that's 2 generations behind new from Apple every 2 years until they pull their head out of their asses. I just picked up a 7 pius and also bought one for my mother. It's fantastic. Fast. Qualcomm radio. And I'm exactly Apples target customer - I drive a brand new luxury car and pull down a big salary. But even wealthy people with a disposable income don't like being nickeled and dimed like a fool.
 
Actually quite the opposite , there are still way more android phones out there than iPhones. Apple is a premium brand by most standards. And we’re arent comparing Dells, I’m talking Apple. And finally, Apple is not going to lose revenue for two reasons...first they raised prices, second , they are going all in on services and ecosystem. They don’t care if you have a 5 year old phone as long as you are in the ecosystem which brings them money as they continue to offer new iCloud services, music, movies, news, rentals, etc etc. Think about the bigger picture.

The point about Dell is that computer parts are continuously getting cheaper. You don't have Apple to thank for a MacBook Pro being cheaper today than the equivalent PowerBook 15 or 20 years ago; rather, you have parts suppliers to thank, which is easy to see because prices fell industrywide. Thus, being cheaper is not a courtesy, but an obligation on Apple's part. Apple is actually screwing the customer in that they could have made their hardware even cheaper, in line with what other manufacturers have done due to decreasing part costs, but they didn't. Now you might argue Apple uses more expensive parts, and that is true to an extent, but not enough to explain the price difference -- after all, they're using the same Intel chips and chipsets as everyone else, the same GPUs, and the same type of RAM, and these account for a significant chunk of the computer's price. The main differentiator are the faster SSDs (and boy do we pay very dearly for that, given the price of SSD capacity upgrades), as well as the touchbar which many feel is gimmicky -- and also, as I pointed out before, the price increased by $300 to $400 when the touchbar models were introduced, and as much as you may love it, can you honestly claim it's worth that much? There's the screen, but currently many competitors offer screens with a similar level of quality for their top-end laptops. Personally I love the new keyboard, but again I'm sure most will disagree, and never mind the reliability issues. The trackpad is great, but how much does it really contribute to the laptop's price?

As for services, sure, you can make money off a 5 year old phone. It's still a 5 year old phone though, and at that point the customer is seriously looking at an upgrade. If Apple pricing is now out of reach for this customer, not only did Apple lose a large sale in the hardware division, but also many smaller future sales in the services division. If you think about it, this is an even stronger reason for Apple to accept slightly smaller margins for their hardware, so they can keep milking the customer for the lifetime of the device. Unfortunately it looks like Apple is getting a little shortsighted. These price increases may help make them beat their records for another quarter or maybe even a year, but after that I'm afraid they're going to go downhill, and fast.
 
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Its nowhere close to OLED which is why its on Apple's budget phone and why there is no LCD flagship.
It's pretty darn close, imo. The spec sheet doesn't tell the entire difference.

Can you explain how?
Can you explain, why it doesn't? Smaller form factor with large screen. Next gen neural engine, capable of Smart HDR. 6.1" screen. Better contrast ratio (lower PPI). POrtrait mode, extended video dynamic range, stereo video recording.

I'm just reading off from apple's website.
 
It pisses me off. Apple has really lost its mind. Why would I have to pay more for something that is not worth it??? They don’t include the super charger, the headphone jack adapter and they charge you more??
Why do they have different promotion strategies in Japan, USA but not in every country?
The value perception on current phones is wrong. People noticed and they did too!

It really pisses me off but my plan is to get a note 9. I no longer see the value on these phones anymore.
I’m replacing my Pixel XL work phone with either a Note 9 or S9+ probably early next year, can’t wait! As for my iPhone 7 Plus, maybe I’ll get an 8 Plus or see what next year’s offerings are, I didn’t want to go both Android since I like having both OSes, but Apple is really making it hard to remain interested in iPhones.
 
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Wait a minute! Tim himself announced that the new iPhones XS and XR are best ever made, wasn't that enough to make it the best selling ever?
 
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I’m replacing my Pixel XL work phone with either a Note 9 or S9+ probably early next year, can’t wait! As for my iPhone 7 Plus, maybe I’ll get an 8 Plus or see what next year’s offerings are, I didn’t want to go both Android since I like having both OSes, but Apple is really making it hard to remain interested in iPhones.
I upgraded from a X to a Note 9. Couldn't be happier. The phone is superb and a joy to use with its huge diplsay. Android and iOS are so close at this point, doesn't make a difference to me
 
.. I drive a brand new luxury car and pull down a big salary. But even wealthy people with a disposable income don't like being nickeled and dimed like a fool.
Buying a brand new luxury car is the very definition of being nickled and dimed to death. You only speak for you, not wealthy people in general. I know people who upgrade their iphones every year.

It becomes tiring to read how people project their own values against a majority of a group of people they can't vouch for.:)
 
Apple: Bring me a marketing expert to help us determine why our phones aren't selling!
Marketing Expert: We looked over the data and determined...
You are selling the same phone as last year, using outdated screen tech, and charging a premium for a standard phone.
Apple: Thanks!,
Bring me another marketing expert to help us determine why our phones aren't selling!
 
Apple: Bring me a marketing expert to help us determine why our phones aren't selling!
Marketing Expert: We looked over the data and determined...
You are selling the same phone as last year, using outdated screen tech, and charging a premium for a standard phone.
Apple: Thanks!,
Bring me another marketing expert to help us determine why our phones aren't selling!

And I have determined that you have never seen an iPhone XR.
 
I love my iPhone XS but after seeing the XR hands on a few days after it was released, I sort of had buyers remorse. It’s an incredible deal for what you get, and its a perfect size compared to the XS and XS Max. The XS is a beautiful device with the OLED display, but beyond that, its value is diminished compared to the XR becuase it’s way overpriced. If I were still within my return period I would have definitely given the XR serious consideration.

I own an x. I recently saw the xr and Xs in store, and no way I'd pay for an Xs. heck I'm tempted to sell my x for an xr as I miss the larger screen
 
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Lower the prices = problem solved.

People are keeping iPhones much longer. Unless it is a dramatic price decrease , most folks don't buy until existing device breaks or is too Slow.

No reason to replace a 6s for example. It's still running smoothly
 
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Apple needs to get off the +25% to +50% surge pricing horse.

It's not going to work and can deal a fatal blow to the app ecosystem if not enough units are sold that devs start not caring. iOS is about to hit below 10% market share globally. I know some apps/services in some countries they already don't have iOS version because there's too few users to care.
 
I upgraded from a 5s to an Xs Max and am quite pleased. I wouldn’t have upgraded but even after I had the battery replaced by a third party, I didn’t get more than a day and a half out of the 5s before it needed recharging. I kept with the iPhone because Apple keeps them up to date with their software updates.
 
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