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Apple Retail Stores Receive Golden Master Copies of OS X Lion

Draeconis said:
What exactly about Lion is watered down exactly?

The UI has been refined.
Finder has been re-written.
Spotlight has been re-written.
New Mail (which I've yet to see a single complaint about it's design)
PPC code removed (in many ways this is a good thing, though the lack of Diablo II will be frankly, painful)
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I have been using Lion for many weeks now. There are some really great new features. But I do feel the GUI is watered down. Apps like finder and Mail have been decolorized like iTunes. It is much harder to tell what parts of dialiog boxes and controls are active. The open/close/maximize/minimize buttons have been shrunk and deemphasized. A big deal? No, but I think they are a step back in usability and too me the appearance is very unexciting.
 
phpmaven said:
It will be exactly the same as the GM build released to developers. If they were going to make any changes, they certainly would have released a new build for dev testing.
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Damn, you're right. I was hoping it wouldn't. The GM hasn't given me anything horrible like a kernel panic or a bunch of beach balls of death but I was hoping for a bit more polish in order to, as apple refers to it, "preserve the illusion".
 
jmull said:
It's fun to sit on the back porch and do facebook updates on my iPod and listen to music, simple things like that, iOS is a poor excuse for an OS. Like you, I think Mac OS X has seen its best days and Apple chose to go in this direction. There are always alternatives though, no one forces me to buy Apple.
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I think people are getting ahead of themselves here when it comes to the future of Mac OS X. Sure Lion is a small bit like iOS with launchpad and full screen apps, but at the end of the day the revenue Apple still makes from Macs is a highly significant part of their business. I mean 5 million odd macs a quarter at $1000 a pop or more for the most part is some serious revenue. Apple have no compelling reason to abandon the Mac for a long time to come, as far as I can see they still see the need for desktop OS and mobile OS to be separated i.e. Xcode exists on the mac only, you need iTunes on a Mac/PC to smoothly use an iPad, iPod or iPhone. So I just thing people are getting away ahead of themselves here with the OS X funeral ! And to be fair some of the stuff iOS has perfected is or could fit in well with Mac OS X Lion. Even Steve Jobs himself as said that the end of the Mac isn't coming anytime soon.
 
gibbz said:
Yeah, I am awaiting the general comments of "Lion is the worst OS ever! Why did Apple remove the ____ feature? <Insert additional snarky comment about being able to write better software despite not being an engineer.> Lion is clear proof Apple only cares about the iPhones. These hipster kids and their iOS devices. When I was a nerd back in the 80's, Apple was a rebel company who cared about their users. Now they sold out and are like Microsoft."
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WOW did you nail it on the head!!!

Sadly everything you said is true though. People want to be early adopters but don't want to be part of the bug fixes that come with releasing ANY OS or major piece of software into the wild.
 
jeffereyj said:
i'm still on Leopard 10.5.7. (i saw no compelling reason to upgrade to Snow Leopard)

so just to be clear, in order to install Lion, i need to:

1. Buy and install Snow Leopard

2. Launch App Store and buy/download/install Lion.


is that right?
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yes
 
NAG said:
As well as "why does my ppc application not work" threads.
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Precisely because Rosetta operated so seamlessly (even on Snow Leopard), this has the potential to make the first few weeks of Lion seem like Apple's Vista. In addition to random bugs and crashes from latent PPC code (e.g. Office 2008), I think the biggest issue will be drivers, particularly for older printers, scanners, etc. where the manufacturer took the shortcut and kept carrying over the driver from version to version. Hopefully Apple has sorted some of this out, but I'm sure some not-so-old peripherals will fall through the cracks.
 
stelriah said:
Damn, you're right. I was hoping it wouldn't. The GM hasn't given me anything horrible like a kernel panic or a bunch of beach balls of death but I was hoping for a bit more polish in order to, as apple refers to it, "preserve the illusion".
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you are wrong, they could fixed a few bugs in the GM and release a new build , they release a beta to developers when there are new features added but here they might have only fixed bugs
 
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wovel said:
Enjoy windows? Is there something specific in Lion you are complaining about or are you just a curmudgeon?
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The writing is on the wall. I'm sorry that you can't read it, and I don't have time to explain the specifics to you. Someday, you'll look back and remember this post and say... "Oh, I get it now."

Of course, if you're an iToys customer, this is going to make little difference, because that it the direction Apple is going in all future development as they phase out the desktops in the "post PC" era (Steve's words, not mine). Lion is a major transition milestone as they move slowly and exclusively into that business dynamic. The final nail will be when Steve is gone.
 
stelriah said:
Damn, you're right. I was hoping it wouldn't. The GM hasn't given me anything horrible like a kernel panic or a bunch of beach balls of death but I was hoping for a bit more polish in order to, as apple refers to it, "preserve the illusion".
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A rule of thumb... wait until 10.7.3 or 4 to upgrade to ANY APPLE OS :cool:
 
THX1139 said:
Meh.

I'm going to miss the Mac operating system. There have been rough releases over the years, but all and all, it's been a good run. This final version of Snow Leopard turned out to be the best of them all. Apple sure went out with a bang on that one. I can see using it for the next year until applications no longer run on it. After that, I guess I'll figure out where to go from there.

Not sure what's in store for the future, but so far... things are looking dismal for the ol' Macintosh. But I guess if you are into iToys like the iPhone, or iPad... then I suppose there's a lot to be looking forward to, so have fun with that.
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Wow is this whole statement completely unfounded. How exactly does adding over 250 new features, many of which are very useful signal the demise of an OS?
 
iDisk said:
A rule of thumb... wait until 10.7.3 or 4 to upgrade to ANY APPLE OS :cool:
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Why? Who are you referring to? For the average user Lion is *already* good enough to not wait until later releases.

I've been treating the GM the same way an average user would. The basics run and function fine. The OS is stable. Internet and mail work fine. The most commonly-used apps run fine.

Tech-heads and their special needs do not = the majority of Apple's market.
 
I'd imagine Apple can send one big hard drive (think 100GB+) to each retail store. Each drive contains all the necessary apps, songs, movies, etc., for all store unit configs. Mount said drive onto an in-store, centralized server. Server then copies data and some scripts onto all display units over gigabit LAN, auto-launch scripts to take care of the rest. Fully automated. Much simpler than manual install on each machine.
 
Aaron from KY said:
Oh, you mean the only thing making this expensive hunk of silicon do anything worthwhile? Yeah, it's just that.:D

I can't wait for the refurb store to update so I can get a good deal on a newer mac. Typing this on a 667MHz Powerbook G4.
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Your tag says you have a 2010 Macbook Pro .......:rolleyes:
 
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