The majority for which it is just a consumption tool will not buy such an expensive device. For those, there are cheaper options even within the Apple ecosystem.
Overpriced for drawing? Do you know what for example graphics tablets cost?
It’s ridiculous that the current iPad Pros stay in the lineup but get no price reduction. Even more ridiculous is the iPad mini didn’t get killed or updated and no price change. Good grief.
STOP for a moment and realize something before you go out and dump your wallet out:
* iPad's never were weak in the hardware department - they are terrible in the software. Games/Apps aren't limited in terms of what it can do but how you can do it with an iPad which just sucks compared to a real productivity device
* The pricing of these things are more than a real competent laptop. These things are just toys compared to real laptops that can do real work.
I don't care if these things have Face ID. The fingerprint was good enough. Just the pricing on these things are atrocious - all that for scribbling some art and watching youtube. Price is outrageous.
I have 2 iPad Pro 12.9, more than 4 iPads from all the years and let me tell you the 12.9" doesn't even get used. Collecting dust because once I tried hard to fit a good productivity workflow using solely the iPad, it was like jamming a square peg in a round hole. I just went back to a real PC desktop for power use and a laptop for some light work + smartphone for on the go...
Until apple decides to stop using the same junk iOS they do on the phones but enlarge it on the iPads, I will never ever again buy another iPad. Waste of money! The best thing about these new iPads is the form factor it's much more sensible especially with the pen attachment. With one single USB-C, you're gonna need more dongles and it's not the same as a real laptop with USB-C - this one is just gimped when it comes to what you can do with it.
Trillion dollar company needs ways to keep growing - this is pure business and apple is no fan of your wallet. Wipe off that grin on Phil Schiller's face and you will see they are not a company that cares about their customers....or their wallet.
Even if that’s all it did...but it does so much more. So much.
BOO!
wanted to see an OLED Ipad.
We can agree to differ. My MacBook has hardly been used since the iPad Pro came out - and the last few months my iMac has hardly gets touched either, as 99% of my work is done using two iPad Pro’s.I have 2 iPad Pro 12.9, more than 4 iPads from all the years and let me tell you the 12.9" doesn't even get used. Collecting dust because once I tried hard to fit a good productivity workflow using solely the iPad, it was like jamming a square peg in a round hole. I just went back to a real PC desktop for power use and a laptop for some light work + smartphone for on the go...
Well this stinks. According to the Verge "but we’ve confirmed that it will not support external storage over USB-C". No access to external hard drives.
You continue to miss the point / are only hearing yourself.
The point is, for some people it's a pro machine, and for other people, it's not. Just because you think it's a pro machine for your needs and others, doesn't negate the fact that it's not a pro machine for other people. So, he is justified to say it's not a pro machine, because he's speaking for himself and others like him, not the people who can use it as a pro machine.
I was merely responding to someone who DID say the iPad was a toy and not for any professional use.
It’s just a big toy is all these are imo. I won’t be spending a grand on a big toy anymore till they do.
Sure, there may be certain applications that don’t run on an iPad (or Mac) that limit some “pros” from using an iPad. But this continued fallacy that Pros can’t use an iPad is simply wrong.
You are mistaken. He said:
You are imagining things. He did not say that it could not be used for any professional use. He indicated that "he" could not use it seriously. Just because some people can use it in their workflow, doesn't mean that everyone can. For the people who cannot, it's not a professional device. It does not mean they are stuck in the past. There's an entire world out there that is professional, which the iPad cannot meet the needs of.
For them, they have no professional use for it, and would be validated in thinking it's a toy.
They just announced an sd card adapter for it, so it sounds like a software limitation. I expect them to integrate external storage into the Files.app in iOS 13.Well this stinks. According to the Verge "but we’ve confirmed that it will not support external storage over USB-C". No access to external hard drives.
“These are just toys” is an ignorant statement.
Have you read all the threads? I didn’t quote “x-evil-x”. I’m referring to the numerous “not for pros” or “not a pro device” - or “can’t be pro without Mac OS” . Remarks about “not Pro” or “not for pro” abound.I am a professional that can use an iPad professionally. x-evil-x is a professional that can't use an iPad professionally. No where did he say or insinuate that "no one" could use an iPad professionally. You're all just projecting.
They have bifurcated the line. The regular iPads now support pencil, so they are more capable for “Everyperson” use, while the pros are now firmly in the “MacBook replacement” territory.Price is saddening! These aren’t just incremental increases. This is not the way to fix possible profit margin losses, if there even are any. Making people frustrated with your brand probably doesn’t help retain brand loyalty. But of course, they are sexy devices.
Have you read all the threads? I didn’t quote “x-evil-x”. I’m referring to the numerous “not for pros” or “not a pro device” - or “can’t be pro without Mac OS” . Remarks about “not Pro” or “not for pro” abound.
I’m a bit surprised by the benchmarking against laptops and consoles.
It’s like they’re preparing us for Macs with ARM chips. They spent a lot of time telling us how their mobile chip is more powerful and faster than the regular laptop or even console graphics. The next step would be: “you know our mobile chip is already on par or better, well here’s our desktop/high end chip: it blows everything away”
I’m curious how they’re gonna do it and whether they will be able to pull it off.
Microsoft tried and failed a couple of years ago, didn’t they?
Faceid, new screen tech (same as iPhone XR), laptop-level CPU, more and faster RAM, etc.I don't really understand why these are so expensive. There's no crazy revolutionary new tech here.. FaceID maybe? Is it that expensive?