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It's pretty embarrassing that it took this long to update. Lack of competition, I guess. The nano doesn't even have a retina screen, and the ipod touch is still on the A5 from the ipad 2.
 
It seems that in all the arguing over whether it's worth it for Apple to make new iPod (it is - my daughter's not getting an iPhone for years) everyone seems to have missed that the Touch now includes a flash and is missing the pop-up lanyard connector. The upgrades are worthy.
 
This may sound weird but I don't have an iPhone - or any other smart phone. I love my iPad touch because I can airplay music, check email, take photos/videos which are then auto sync's to my rMBP and it fits in my pocket. I play games on it as well and use it for iMessage. Best of all, its all done over WiFi so I don't have to worry about using data as i would with an iPhone.

My iPod touch might just be my favorite  toy and it didn't cost a fortune. I don't know why it wasn't updated sooner, but better late than never.

If  really wants to become a phone company maybe they should just by AT&T.
 
I'm not against it but does it make sense to mount 64-bit CPU on an iPod?
If that iPod is expected to run the same OS as Apple's other 64-bit products, absolutely.
You have to consider the fact that Apple is trying to eventually (soon?) dump 32-bit apps from the app store, told developers, some months ago, they had to make their apps 64-bit compatible before submitting them. So, if apple is going to continue to sell new iPod Touch's, then it has to work with current apps. Plus, I assume iOS 9 will be optimized for 64-bit processors and, in late 2016, they may drop 32-bit support from the next iOS completely.

Apple did stop selling the iPad Mini (1st gen.), all iPads on sale now have 64-bit processors. When they introduce new iPhones later this year, they will likely drop the 5c - the only iPhone w/a 32-bit processor.

That being said, I would guess it would be the A7 chip, (based on the iPhone 5s's innards minus cell chips), not the A8. Unless they are going to offer 2 models and have a second one based on the iPhone 6 (4.7"), but, this would surprise me.
 
I'm surprised more people don't say this. Because this is PRECISELY the reason why some of us prefer separating phone-use from app-use. Having an iPod touch is perfect for those of us who want to keep phone usage separate.

I use an iPod touch precisely because I'd be a wall-hugging phone user otherwise. I need my phone to always have atleast a battery half-full.

That's exactly what I'm doing now with my 4s and 5s. This year, I want to trade in my iPad Air for either a mini 4 or iPod touch 5.5" with at least an A8 and 2GB of RAM. I also want to trade in my 5s for a 6s if it also has 2GB of RAM.
 
Not everyone wants or needs a cell phone. I went my whole career without one. The future in any case does not belong to cell technology. WiFi makes just as much sense. Seems to me building cell towers all over the place makes little sense if you can deploy WiFi for less. An iPod Touch could evolve into a WiFi phone for those who need mobile communications.

In addition to the WiFi vs cell issue for deployment there is also that nagging radiation that cell phones emit.

I do hope the Touch is available in larger screens and it's not just a colour thing they change along with a newer cup.
 
It seems that in all the arguing over whether it's worth it for Apple to make new iPod (it is - my daughter's not getting an iPhone for years) everyone seems to have missed that the Touch now includes a flash and is missing the pop-up lanyard connector. The upgrades are worthy.
The 5th Generation already has a flash.
 
This price difference is a good point, but it begs the question: why is an iphone6 $650?? A same specced ipad air 2 with lte (same cpu, same flash memory, same camera), with a bigger screen and bigger battery and more ram (meaning higher component costs) is $630?

An iPhone 5S is $550. A same specced ipad mini 4 with lte is $530, but again with a bigger screen and bigger battery, all else being the same.

I think this means the margins on an iphone are WAY higher than on an ipad. I think if Apple chose to go with the same margins on the iphone as they do with an ipad, the iphone6 would start at ~$450.

If current-gen iphones started at $450, and prior gen iphones started at $350, there would be no reason to have an ipod touch.

While the iPad may have higher component cost, the R&D for the iPhone may be more.

Putting the same components that are in an iPad into an iPhone is not easy.
 
why do people still bother ipod when we having iphone - everything iphone can do that ipod do

Because some people have large music libraries and still need room for apps, pictures and videos. Plus listening to music on a long car ride/workout is gonna drain the hell out of your battery.
 
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i dont listen music much a day - the most time around 10 minutes

10 hr for youtube
1 hr for news
1 hr macrumors
and others
 
While the iPad may have higher component cost, the R&D for the iPhone may be more.

Putting the same components that are in an iPad into an iPhone is not easy.
R&D is probably significant for both, and they're probably relatively similar - I doubt they differ by more than a factor of 2. That said, it's a fixed cost. Apple sells more iPhones than iPads, by a lot - about 6x more. Thus, the r&d costs per iPhone will be much much smaller than per iPad, despite the maybe higher r&d total spent. It's yet another reason that it makes no sense that the iPhone costs more than an iPad, and that it costs as much as it does.
 
That's exactly what I'm doing now with my 4s and 5s. This year, I want to trade in my iPad Air for either a mini 4 or iPod touch 5.5" with at least an A8 and 2GB of RAM. I also want to trade in my 5s for a 6s if it also has 2GB of RAM.

The chances of an updated iPod Touch getting A8 is slim and 2GB of RAM slimmer. I could definitely see the mini 4 getting A8 and 2GB of RAM, though.
 
I'm not against it but does it make sense to mount 64-bit CPU on an iPod?
The iPod touch is also for thrifty people.
I spent $100 per year on my cell phone.
It doesn't make since for me to upgrade to an IPhone when the iPod touch gives me what I need without a monthly bill.
 
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I have iPhone 6, and I absolutely HATE using it for music. I travel quite a bit, and when I forgot my iPod one time, I used my phone - and found that by the time I knew it, my phone died from using it for hours on the plane, and I had no way to charge it soon after I landed, thus I had no phone. I was always one to keep my music separate from my phone. I have both a touch, and a nano - but just want something newer. I'll be getting a new touch for sure.

I surely can't be the only one that hates using my phone for a music player.

I love using my phone as a music player, but then again, I have an android phone (samsung note 3) with 2 spare batteries and a sdcard slot.
 
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I want something on the smallish size with good sound quality and storage space and on the cheap.

I have a 6 Plus and I do not take it to the gym. I will not get a touch 5th gen because of life expectancy with those internals.

So a device with the above criteria so I can get my Apple Music in the gym would be great, do not need it obviously for anything else cause I have a Plus.
 
Take the current touch, double the storage space, make the output impedance even a little bit lower (it already is quite low, but lower is always better) and upgrade the internals to run iOS stutter free.

That's all I want. Don't care for camera, flash, fingerprints, larger screen, streaming, color options,...
Just make it a better music player.
 
Younger age group? My daughter had her first iPhone at 10 years old. Most kids 10 and over have a phone.

I had my first Cell phone in elementary and my first smartphone(Samsung Omnia, a windows phone) by middle school. I never lost or damaged any of my phones.(In fact I still have my Omnia sitting around in the house somewhere. My mother and cousin use my previous iPhones now.) Now, I'm on my 3rd iPhone going into my 4th year of College. I feel sorry for the souls who have dinosaur parents.
 
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