Apple Rumored to Launch Notch-Less iPhone in 2020

I don’t think the notch looks very good, but the big problem is the way it has been implemented as a bit cut out for apps instead of having additional areas for status. It leads to problems such as bits of video missing. I’ll be happy to see it go.
 
I suspect the people here who are speculating the return of TouchID doesn’t necessarily mean the end of FaceID are right. It could indeed be a feature for a lower cost phone - there are some of us who simply will not pay Apple’s current phone prices, even if we like the Apple ecosystem. Plus Apple may be coming to terms with the maturity of - and possible commoditization of - the smartphone market.

I know I’m in no hurry to replace my 6S... it does everything I need.
 
And when the notch-less iPhones are released, sales will miraculously come out of their slump. And, yes, I will say--I told you so. But, go on believing it's due to commoditization or some other industry pressure. ;)
 
sracer said:
I was against the notch. I thought it was hideous and greatly distracted from the user experience. But the legions of notch-loving fans convinced me otherwise... now, no notch, no sale.
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lol, this is the epitome of sheep mentality haha sorry. have some conviction dude!
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
Call me sceptical about these under screen cameras. The video is supposedly just that, but can we be guaranteed the camera was under the display and not sneakily hiding in top or bottom bezel for leaky marketing hype? And what sort of IRL issues will this camera invariably have? I’m not saying impossible, but I am saying I’ll wait for all the reviews to form something resembling an opinion. And the latter analyst is probably just mostly making **** up.
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Indeed, but these phones are not yet guaranteed. It’s a rumor at this point.
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I just love it how the writer of this article says, "...reputable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo...', then later also writes, "However, these reports should still be viewed with some skepticism..."
 
I don't think they are going to get rid of Face ID for a while, if ever. I'd imagine the money and resources they plowed into it was substantial, and they are going to want to milk it for a while. To me, it seems more likely that they will still eventually get rid of that hideous notch, but implement Face ID through under-screen cameras. I hope this is the case, as I was happy to see Touch ID go the way of the Dodo bird given my poor experience with it over the years.

Going back to touch-based authentication would be a backward move, something I don't think Apple is eager to do, especially how they touted Face ID as the wave of the future and the natural progression of their technology.
 
I'm not sure why OS13 doesn't hide the notch 99% of the time except for games and video. I'd personally love to see the time and signal strength constantly.
 
I think Touch ID and Face ID have their own pros and cons. One isn't really better IMO. Less notch wouldn't hurt though.
 
Face ID = less convenience since you have to take your eyes off from where you're going, less privacy, worse security

Touch ID = more convenience, more privacy (giving up fingerprint is lesser of two evils compared to face/eyes), better security

It'll rattle their customers if Apple dumps Face ID so quickly so likely they're offer both where Face ID is sufficient to unlock phone, make/take calls, etc. while Touch ID is required for things like purchases, payments, secure folders, etc.
 
timborama said:
Ya, gotta have those mimojis /s

Best Apple news/rumor in a long time. Now I’m mildly interested in iPhone again. Under screen Touch ID would bring me back. **** Face ID and THE NOTCH.
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And of course the people who believe mimojis is the extent of Apple's large push into AR. /s

Much prefer FaceId. Not having to deal with a Home Button is huge. As is being able to interact with my phone with gloves on. No looking back.
 
What's with all of the Apple rumors for 2020? It's almost like Apple knows 2019 is going to be a massive letdown, and they don't want people to leave their ecosystem.
 
I mean no notch doesn't necessary means no FaceID. There is no reason why you can't do Face ID with a thicker bezels, or asymmetric Bezel. But that will just look like every other android phone.



JosephAW said:
Hopefully they will drop OLED and use microLED.
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Definitely not happening, at least not in the 2021 / 2022 time frame.
 
mi7chy said:
It'll rattle their customers if Apple dumps Face ID so quickly so likely they're offer both where Face ID is sufficient to unlock phone, make/take calls, etc. while Touch ID is required for things like purchases, payments, secure folders, etc.
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Yeah, that would be an interesting concept, having both auth methods available for different use scenarios. However, given the arguably too-high cost of the current crop of iPhones, I don't think this would be likely as it would only serve to further drive the cost of the iPhone. Maybe it could work as a feature set of the highest tier iPhone where Apple knows people will pay a premium. I guess we'll see.
 
Yesss! Bring it on, I can't wait! I'll hang on to my iPhone 8 for the next two years until I can get a smaller, notchless iPhone! Oh, and lower the price. I gotta buy two, one for me and one for the wife, at 1250 each, that's a 2500.00 purchase plus more for apple care. That's a tough pill to swallow, why I went with the 8 this time around.
 
I wonder if Apple has considered using voice as an auth method? (Answer: probably). If I'm not mistaken our voices are as unique as fingerprints and could be used to identify an individual. Not being an expert in this area though, perhaps there are cases where an individual's voice may not be unique enough to always act as a sufficiently unique identifier, plus voice playback would be too easy for those trying to circumvent the lock.

If Apple could implement something like that, it could use the iPhone's mic and omit the need for fingerprint or visual cues. This would, of course not be available to individuals who have lost the use of their voice or have compromised vocal cords, and also be inconvenient for cases where using your voice would be disruptive.

So I guess I've answered my own question - probably ain't happening, although it would be a cool option for those interested in this as a way to unlock.
 
pcd213 said:
If only one of the three 2020 iPhones will launch with full-screen fingerprint authentication, which size do we think it will be? I assume it will launch on the largest of the models (6.7 inch), though I'm personally hoping it will be the 5.4 inch model. I have to imagine that Apple will want to maximize profits and launch the feature on their most expensive device in the new lineup. It's sad that we're losing feature parity once more between the large and small iPhones.
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Sans FaceID will be on the smaller device as it will be less expensive and the physical dimensions would make the notch resemble the screen to have horns with no space for icons or info which would be pointless.

Even if FaceID gets slimmer and shrinks a bit it still takes up valuable physical space, on iPad Pro it blends in.
 
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