My phone doesn't unlock when my hands are wet. Chalk up a fail for TouchID, as well.
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Apple Says Face ID Didn't Fail Onstage During iPhone X Keynote
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If the phone is all ready unlocked you will not have a problem, it only will require the pass code if someone other than you tries to unlock you phone.
I don't care what they say, anyone who is about to demo a radically new technology to the world of which the development you are heading up will walk over to the demo phone and verify it one last time before walking on stage. Simple human behavior. Especially a fairly seasoned presenter like Craig.
FaceID is more secure than TouchID and requires all of those fancy sensors up front. I highly doubt this was a last minute plan B.
I don't think any of the TouchID rumors behind the glass were ever valid. This implementation makes sense with the design they chose. They've been designing this for years.
How could it work with sunglasses, if it won't work when you have your eyes closed? (that was in one of the demos on another site that an Apple employee did at the event).
(So people will still be able to keep law enforcement out of their iPhones)
Regarding the presentation comments...yes, still surprised that they have silly things like having to plug an iPhone in during a demo (why don't they have automated intelligent switching setup?) Heh. And why do they have a slide clicker remote, rather than using an app on their Apple Watches???
(So people will still be able to keep law enforcement out of their iPhones)
Regarding the presentation comments...yes, still surprised that they have silly things like having to plug an iPhone in during a demo (why don't they have automated intelligent switching setup?) Heh. And why do they have a slide clicker remote, rather than using an app on their Apple Watches???
Many on here are missing the point. It failed to do what he wanted it to do, because the design led to this result. My opinion, having used TouchID for years and used facial recognition on my Surface Pro for months, is that the iPhone X is not going to be as good of an experience for most use cases on a mobile phone. TouchID works very well. It wasn't broke, so don't fix it. Its quick and reliable, and rarely does it have a false negative, other than the case where your hands are wet. What Apple should have done was ADD FaceID, not REPLACE TouchID. Having both, would have improved the experience by giving users a way to unlock when their hands are wet. But thye didn't do that. So now in most use cases, like what was demo'd in the keynote so well, it will not be as good of an experience. The probability of it needing a pass code will greatly increase. It was also clear from the demo that it is a lot slower. And many scenarios will be impossible... such as you are in a meeting and need to open your phone and glance down at it under the table... or in a theatre... or what if you need to unlock it while driving for some reason?
The correct thing for Apple to have done would have been to have FaceID and TouchID to improve the user experience. They didn't do that, and thus the demo failed to go the way they wanted it to go. If in the keynote the same thing happened and there was TouchID available, he could have opened it with his finger instead of resorting to typing a code.
In your scenario, if someone grabbed your phone by mistake they would likely realize it and not keep trying to unlock it. Most people don't have the same case so just holding it you would know its not yours. With FaceID, them just holding it will result in the PIN scenario. Bad design.
until you’ve held it in your hands for a while, then you stop giving a flying f***
Or have premature blindness with infra-red and floodlight searing your retina every time you unlock the phone in the dark.
Yep. What people fail to realize is the X firmware/software is beta and it's on a device that is not yet shipping.
Not a biggie. And not worried.
It doesn’t matter if it failed or not, the iPhone X just isn’t that much of an improvement over the 8.
It has a larger, OLED screen - yeah, but it’s not a ProMotion Display like the iPad Pro and doesn’t support the Apple Pencil. iOS doesn’t really make use of some of the coolest OLED features, such as displaying small snippets of info like the time while the rest of the screen is off. Also, that notch and the ears are ugly, cause clipping or letterboxing of content in landscape, and it’s still unclear how the X will replace all of the home-button gestures (like accessibility options, screenshots or reachable mode) with screen-edge gestures. Basically, the screen is not such a clear and obvious win over the 8. It’s nicer in some respects, but is also responsible for some significant degradations in other aspects of using the device.
What else is new? Oh, the front camera system. Most people are not convinced that it’s a clear improvement over TouchID. It’s a necessary feature given the size of the screen, but not an outright reason to buy the device. It doesn’t really enable new experiences as much as it improves minor experiences currently available to all iPhone users. It only affects the front camera; there’s no special depth-sensing hardware on the rear camera for AR.
Except for that? It’s the same internals as the iPhone 8. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that literally the entire extent of the difference (beside the price)? It’s just not a very compelling product.
It has a larger, OLED screen - yeah, but it’s not a ProMotion Display like the iPad Pro and doesn’t support the Apple Pencil. iOS doesn’t really make use of some of the coolest OLED features, such as displaying small snippets of info like the time while the rest of the screen is off. Also, that notch and the ears are ugly, cause clipping or letterboxing of content in landscape, and it’s still unclear how the X will replace all of the home-button gestures (like accessibility options, screenshots or reachable mode) with screen-edge gestures. Basically, the screen is not such a clear and obvious win over the 8. It’s nicer in some respects, but is also responsible for some significant degradations in other aspects of using the device.
What else is new? Oh, the front camera system. Most people are not convinced that it’s a clear improvement over TouchID. It’s a necessary feature given the size of the screen, but not an outright reason to buy the device. It doesn’t really enable new experiences as much as it improves minor experiences currently available to all iPhone users. It only affects the front camera; there’s no special depth-sensing hardware on the rear camera for AR.
Except for that? It’s the same internals as the iPhone 8. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that literally the entire extent of the difference (beside the price)? It’s just not a very compelling product.
It’s the same thing when you use the wrong fingerprint on Touch ID. Touch ID gets disabled and it requires passcode
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Yes, and Apple is has rebranded its inability to deliver as "innovation".
Why they didn't put the fingerprint sensor in the back, I have no idea. They could have hidden it in the logo and I'm sure everyone would have liked that. Sure, FaceID is perhaps nice for some people, but a fingerprint sensor is just a quicker and more convenient way to unlock your phone. Why not have both?
Then they are registered with with touchiD on your phone ?, or else they also would not be able to do anything with your phone,
just looking at it when it is already unlocked is just the same with FaceID
when it is already unlocked it is not permanently scanning for faces to make sure only you is holding the phone.
I don't see your problem compared with touchID
you can scan multiple faces to use with FaceID
No, they aren't registered with TouchID. They know the passcode if they need to get in, but most of the time they pick it up to check the time, see what notification came in, etc. Like I say, it's on the counter most of the time I'm at home. And no, you cannot currently register multiple faces.
This has nothing at all to do with that. The iPhone is still my personal device. That doesn't stop my wife and kids from looking at it to check the time, see who's calling or what notification came in, take a picture, or to even use my passcode to get in and play a game, start some music, look something up, etc. etc. etc. This means that any time they interact with it I'll likely need to enter the pin next time I use it. Huge step backwards in convenience.
Not sure what you are talking about...The point is there are all sorts of legitimate reasons for other people to look at your phone. With FaceID and 2 falses as the lockout threshold that means a huge portion of the time I go to use my phone I'm going to be forced to use a passcode.
I use Touch ID constantly and the speed and accuracy are damn near perfect. It’s a convenience feature for sure, but it is super convenient.
I’m still holding out for iPhone X gen 2 when they can hopefully offer Touch ID under the screen as well.
FaceID just doesn’t seem as natural.
I’m still holding out for iPhone X gen 2 when they can hopefully offer Touch ID under the screen as well.
FaceID just doesn’t seem as natural.
The difference is that a) TouchID requires 5 failed fingerprints before it prompts you. FaceID requires only 2. and b) other people can look at your phone without triggering touchID.
It might be very secure. But it's not like TouchID was bad to begin with. At least on a consumer level it was more than good enough. But other things matters more: speed and convenience. What I saw during the presentation looked a bit awkward and slow. TouchID embedded into the screen makes far more sense on a personal device than this holding the phone in front of you.
Then all the rumors about the TouchID. They were working on it until last minute. I am certain. And then the Notch: when Jony Ive said, a bazel less phone has always been the goal, then I have a hard time to believe that this "intrusion" into the real estate of the screen to hoist the myriad of sensors was not a last minute compromise.
If they had been working on it for years, I am also certain that the iPhone X would have been ready for the masses on day 1 after the presentation. Especially for a device to celebrate a milestone.
FaceID was certainly something Apple has been working on for a long time. For their Laptops and Desktop computers.
But if your son wants to look at the phone, he picks it up, can't login with FacID, uses the passcode, does his thing,
locks it and put it down again,
then you pick it up, and FaceID unlocks it for you !?
what's the problem with that ?, just because they have to enter the passcode to look at the time ? buy a clock
that like saying that "faceID" fails cause your closed your eyes cause you had water in them....and it failed
TouchID is brilliant, from when I take it our of my pocket and look at it, its already unlocked and I'm looking at my apps.
With FaceID, I take it out of my pocket, need to look at it, and wait for it to unlock. Touch ID is intuitive and faster, for a handheld device.....handheld device is key here!
Which is the better experience?
Again, I have to input my (long) passcode every day, and it does not work with gloves, so that is not "faster", assuming FaceID works as advertised.
Funny how narratives change: when it was time to criticize Apple for TouchID, wet hands and gloves were huge drawbacks. Now that it's time to bash FaceID, the old system is "flawless, intuitive and faster". History repeating.
Not sure if you're being facetious or serious.. Either way, it's good PR after people have already coined it "ID-gate"
But regardless your comment seems fanboyish, borderline occult-brainwashed like.. God bless them?
Relax, they're an electronics company, not the cure for AIDS or the second coming of Christ..