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Still doesn't explain why some of the Apple employees demoing it for the press in the hands on area couldn't get it to work reliably. I need to see more of this device tbh.

On Mark Gurman, I remember him having a piece out a few months ago claiming this FaceID tech would even work with your phone flat on a table. I was skeptical then but apparently it doesn't.
 
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That sh*t failed. I don't care how their marketing team tries to spin it. The proof is right there on video. It failed. Reply all you want but I couldn't care less. #suspect

Your signature:

"I see society & the way that it wants us to live, and I do the complete opposite and walk my own path"

LOL

You are the exact example of a person that Android aims to target, 'the rebel'. You think you've made the choice yourself but you haven't.
 
Woah this doesn’t sound good. TWO ATTEMPTS!

People might look at my phone all the time I don’t want it to default to passcode after two people! That’s way too few and surely you could give almost unlimited attempts and keep the phone locked because the face recognition system is supposed to be SO ACCURATE RIGHT.

This calls the whole system into doubt more than it straight up failing.
 
Upon seeing Face ID fail, I wondered why Craig didn't simply enter his passcode and then locked the screen to try it again. If Apple's explanation is correct, it should have worked that second time.
 
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Still doesn't explain why some of the Apple employees demoing it for the press in the hands on area couldn't get it to work reliably. I need to see more of this device tbh.

On Mark Gurman, I remember him having a piece out a few months ago claiming this FaceID tech would even work with your phone flat on a table. I was skeptical then but apparently it doesn't.

Wasn't he the same one who insinuated that ProMotion (120 HZ display) would be included on the iPhone as well? That didn't come to fruition.
 
I believe the explanation, but why on earth couldn’t Craig just explain this on stage? He would have suspected this was the cause.

Instead, he nervously says “Woah!” and switches devices!

He obviously panicked, thinking that there was no time to investigate what was wrong when the entire world was watching, so he preferred to use the backup device and save the presentation (or what's left of it, since the main feature of the phone failed to work as intended).

The problem is in apple's explanation. I mean, this way or that, things don't look very good.
- If the face id actually failed to recognize the registered face, then it means it has bugs / it's not completely ready.
- If the face id actually worked as intended (locked because too many faces just take a look at it) then it is designed badly.
 
Apple had to choose between:
a) made a mistake setting up the demo
b) Face ID fails.

Logical respons.

BTW, I do believe Face ID will work just as well as Touch ID now works. They cannot release iPhone X to the public if there is a failure in Face ID.
 
Why didn't he have that iPhone in his pocket so others wouldn't have access. That said I can see an issue here where the iPhone might try and open without you wanting it too, like in a crowded room, then when you go to use it you'd need the password to get into it.
 
Does Face ID allow more than one face, the same way Touch ID allows more than one finger? If that's the case, Apple should have thought of having the rehearsal people have their faces recognised by the demo phone, too.
 
Glad this had a logical cause, but this on-stage embarrassment - the very first time that FaceID had publically been shown may go down as second only to the iPhone wifi flub that caused Steve to accuse the entire audience of killing the phone with their mifi hotspots.
 
Hmm, if the phone wakes every time it's moved in order to fire off face ID, does this mean a lot of unnecessary activations whilst it's in your pocket? If so, has this been factored into the battery life estimates?
 
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It is true. During the keynote you can see on the phone screen it says "passcode is required to enable FaceID".

Just like when turning on iPhone with touchID. It requires passcode first then touchID.

No. When you reboot your device it clearly states that it has been restarted.

Zoom in on the video for yourself. If you have any experience with Touch ID you will instantly recognize the message that is on his screen. It says that you need to enter your passcode to enable faceID. That means that either A) the device was just booted up b) a failed number of attempts c) sos Mode was enabled... yes it’s embarrassing that Apple didn’t make sure faceID was enabled before the demo... but it didn’t fail. It was disabled. The proof is right on screen.

Again, no. When you reboot you'll know that is the reason why you need to enter your passcode to enable touchid/faceid. It failed, but whatever, they'll sort it out, plenty more days/time before they actually ship X.

One thing they cannot sort is full screen photos/videos/gaming. Notch is killing the mood.
 
As it has been said, it will only try to unlock when eyes are looking at it. I can't think of a scenario where a crowd of people would be looking at my locked phone.

Probably during an "In Case of Emergency" type of event. Hopefully never.
 
Never doubted Apple for a minute.

This tech will be awesome.

Anyone who is "concerned" does so without basis. This is like this years bend-gate, just something for the haters to pick apart. Its practically a ritual to have some straw-man "issue" each iPhone release by now. Something the Android ppl can spread like wild fire to each other as the go-to talking point.
 
The proof will be when real world users play with it. I'm in two minds over this phone.....either the 8+ 64GB or X 64GB.

Since all my photos and videos are stored online, I don't see any need to have masses of space, but I see why some will. Time will tell....
 
Apple had to choose between:
a) made a mistake setting up the demo
b) Face ID fails.

Logical respons.

BTW, I do believe Face ID will work just as well as Touch ID now works. They cannot release iPhone X to the public if there is a failure in Face ID.

I'm inclined to agree with you on this.

But it sure took a long time for that keypad to pop up on Craig. That huge delay suggests to me that Face ID tried to authenticate at least once before showing the keypad. With TouchID, when you've restarted or otherwise used up your attempts, the keypad appears absolutely instantly when you tap the home button. It doesn't even try to authenticate first. Therefore, I think Face ID failed on him.

Alas, we have to take Apple's word for it - there's nobody and no way to really prove otherwise.

With regards to your last comment - remember they did release an iPhone that literally didn't work in your left hand ;)
 
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Does the iPhone X have the ability to make and receive phone calls ? ... Too many bells and whistles.
 
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