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Is Snow Leopard really still a beta OS? It's like there's a new service pack every couple of weeks. I don't remember any version of OSX being like this. :confused:

Ummm, every point release will have a number of seeds before final release. This is perfectly normal.

And what about 10.0? This is probably about as revolutionary as most of the base applications have been re-written from scratch. (from carbon to 64 bit cocoa)
 
Is Snow Leopard really still a beta OS? It's like there's a new service pack every couple of weeks. I don't remember any version of OSX being like this. :confused:

Well 10.6.1 was released on September 10. That is hardly a "couple of weeks." Also, don't confuse these developer builds with actual releases, this many developer seeds is normal.

Here are the release schedules of other versions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.5#Version_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.4#Version_history
 
Ummm, every point release will have a number of seeds before final release. This is perfectly normal.

And what about 10.0? This is probably about as revolutionary as most of the base applications have been re-written from scratch. (from carbon to 64 bit cocoa)

Yeah, ok there was 10.0, but that was the first so it was to be expected.

It just seems like SL was rushed out early to beat W7 and Apple is finishing it up over a couple of months.
 
That's interesting...

AppleInsider notes that Apple has 'temporarily' stopped listing the bugs fixed in 10.6.2. The list must have gotten too large for their whiteboard.
 
Yeah, ok there was 10.0, but that was the first so it was to be expected.

It just seems like SL was rushed out early to beat W7 and Apple is finishing it up over a couple of months.

Leopard is a mess when it first came out.

None of Apple's OS's have been particularly stable after release, and you can't really expect a brand new OS to be a mature state. I think SL was slightly rushed, some of the bugs really should not be there.

10.6.2 will have a significant impact, but it'll probably take a while longer to get really stable.
 
Wow all my graphics glitches are fixed! Also graphics are MUCH smoother over-all! Ill be running this until the official 10.6.2 release comes!

GeForce GT 120 here iMac 24"

EDIT: still some Safari glitches when making new tabs :(
 
It's amazing, :apple: releases SL with a small footprint and then adds and makes adjustments in hugh MB/GB size increments. Pure marketing genius. :D


Some ppl have been reporting Safari crashing on SL. I have to be honest I have not had any of the problems being listed here ::knock on wood::

Though I welcome 10.6.2, I have had no problems with 10.6.0 or 10.6.1

Not sure what the rest of you are visiting that Safari is crashing and your system is slowing down. I must have some quad-core MBP. ;):p:D
 
AppleInsider notes that Apple has 'temporarily' stopped listing the bugs fixed in 10.6.2. The list must have gotten too large for their whiteboard.

more likely there is something serious, and they do not wanna the bad guys to have a too easy job reverse engineering the bug to get a still 0-day exploit.

bad enough what they do with binary diffs.

having a bug-listing before the bugfix is released is like an open invitation for hackers. kinda "Hack me here" list.
 
It's amazing, :apple: releases SL with a small footprint and then adds and makes adjustments in hugh MB/GB size increments. Pure marketing genius. :D

That's incorrect also.

When a point release comes out that's say 500MB that 500MB simply replaces the older files with the newer ones. In some instances new API's or frameworks are added but they seldom add up to any large size.
 
It looks as if x.x.2 are always the most talked about updates, I seem to remember a whole load of hype and excitment about 10.5.2 for Leopard.
 
For the love of God, I just hope this fixes all the crap that's been going on in Safari. It literally crashes 5-10 times per day.

I really miss the stability of Leopard. I hope 10.6.2 takes us back there.

Let's face it, anything prior to 10.x.2 is just a beta release. Anyone concerned about stability should really wait for the .2 version at least.

I remember when I used to laugh about how it was necessary to wait for version 3 of any Microsoft product. Now that applies just as much to Apple's OS releases.
 
Here's to hoping 10.6.2 brings as much goodness to Slow Leopard as 10.5.2 brought to Leopard. (I considered 10.5.2 to be when Leopard starting being a true release quality OS)
 
There are a ton of nasty bugs in SL, one that I spent all day today trying to resolve. Looking forward to the fixes :)

Definitely true and sad. The issues don't affect only Safari but also lots of other things. Really weird to feel we're back in 1996 with so many bugs. VLC for instance keeps crashing too. Several apps suddenly freeze or crash and the only solution is to reboot. So much for the speed gains. On the other hand, almost 2 months after installing SL, going back to Leopard is out of the question. So let's hope 10.6.2 fixes everything, otherwise it could be a looooong bumpy ride until the next release.
 
Definitely true and sad. The issues don't affect only Safari but also lots of other things. Really weird to feel we're back in 1996 with so many bugs. VLC for instance keeps crashing too. Several apps suddenly freeze or crash and the only solution is to reboot. So much for the speed gains. On the other hand, almost 2 months after installing SL, going back to Leopard is out of the question. So let's hope 10.6.2 fixes everything, otherwise it could be a looooong bumpy ride until the next release.

Snow Leopard will never "fix" a 3rd. party software app. Only the developer can do that.

VLC probably crashes because the people writing the code need to get up to speed on making it completely compatible for SL.

I might add that a good 75% of issues typed in this forum are not Snow Leopard issues but issues relating to the user's deployment of their software.
 
Snow Leopard will never "fix" a 3rd. party software app. Only the developer can do that.

VLC probably crashes because the people writing the code need to get up to speed on making it completely compatible for SL.

I might add that a good 75% of issues typed in this forum are not Snow Leopard issues but issues relating to the user's deployment of their software.

Sure, but still. We haven't experienced such a mess in a long time, and the freezing/crashing occurs often and in different situations. So, putting all the blame only on the developpers and the users seem unfair because it wasn't that bad with Panther, Tiger or Leopard. As far as I can remember.
 
That's incorrect also.

When a point release comes out that's say 500MB that 500MB simply replaces the older files with the newer ones. In some instances new API's or frameworks are added but they seldom add up to any large size.

I am aware of update system files being overwritten. Still too early to say, regarding features and support.

"... and the ability to create virtual machines, ..."
 
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