This right here. Everybody complaining about the price seems to want a flagship, reasonably-sized phone for a rock-bottom cheapo Android price. That’s just not reasonable.
Yes, but not enough to purchase. The mini was different to the degree that I could justify it, where the 12’s are similar enough that I don’t want to spend the money and effort (I know it’s not a lot, but still) to upgrade. And I’m very happy with the 11 Pro! It’s perhaps my favorite iPhone ever. They’re all good, and it’s not leaps and bounds above any others, but just as a total package I’m very happy with it.
Much like Apple, apparently, I’m very surprised it‘s not doing better. I don’t think I’ve seen one in the wild, and none of my non-tech friends or family have asked about it. I also hope the form factor continues, even just as a replacement for the SE.
But it’s $100 less than the base 12 and has the same features.
No they did not. If you go through the threads where people complained about the form factor, a lot of people said that they would pay the full price for the same phone in a smaller form factor. It's not exactly the same phone because some things could not physically fit in the smaller case but it's also cheaper. I don't remember anyone saying that a smaller iPhone should have a smaller price.
That part I can agree with. The branding is bad.
In the US at least the carriers don't help things. These homepages reflect the basic state of iPhone promotions since the mini launched:
That's not the wireless homepage, but it's also after the fold and right next to promos with bigger numbers. Most people that go to att.com instead of googling ATT are either going to hit one of the top promos or click the wireless tag at the top. They are unlikely to do two scroll downward to see that promo. So, yeah, not much of a consolation. Also, the page does nothing to point out that the 12 is just an oversized version of the same phone.
That’s not what all the forum users that were crying for a smaller iPhone were saying. Money was no object said the vast majority, with some wanting (still wanting) a mini Pro and how they’re willing to pay for it (which is a crock). Apple made an iPhone mini and then the whining about the cost begins to provide cover for something that simply doesn’t sell in this market anymore.
That's not the homepage, that's the view all smartphone section. It's barely even visible and is not being promoted there.
Saying that users wanted bigger when the starting point was 3.5" is not really relevant when today's starting point is 6.1".
Zdigital2015 said:
I remember a lot of people asking for a iPhone 4 size phone with no bezel. They wanted a bigger screen not a bigger phone.
You are right that we do want a mini pro, because the point was a small flagship not a faster SE. The mini as it is now is a great phone that is selling well considering it get little press, promotions, advertising, or consumer education. It has to compete with the 12 which is the same phone with a higher MSRP (suggesting it has more features), the Pro and Pro Max - all of which have carrier discounts that make it cheaper than the mini.
