The big jump wasn't in performance, but in power consumption. The difference between my M1 and i5 MBPs is far greater in battery life than in CPU benchmarks. I don't see either Intel or AMD doing leading edge design for ASICs that can run on a smartwatch or a "mini" smartphone battery in the near future.
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Apple Supplier TSMC Readies 3nm Chip Production for Second Half of 2022
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There's a difference between what's essentially a prototype, and mass-production ready
stating that the new 3nm chip process will offer 15% performance boost alongside 30% improved energy efficiency and will enter mass production late next year.
Let me guess, so efficient that the iPad will continue to have 10 hours battery life, just like the gen 1 iPad back in 2010. 😂
Let me guess, so efficient that the iPad will continue to have 10 hours battery life, just like the gen 1 iPad back in 2010. 😂
Planned is aspirational. IBM was going to save the PowerPC chip, too. How'd that work out?IBM is actually ahead of them, they are on 2nm.
IBM Unveils World's First 2 Nanometer Chip Technology, Opening a New Frontier for Semiconductors
IBM (NYSE: IBM) today unveiled a breakthrough in semiconductor design and process with the development of the world's first chip announced with 2 nanometer (nm) nanosheet technology....newsroom.ibm.com
What matters is what's currently being shipped in volume. TSMC is curently ramping up seond gen 5nm (will be shipping in the iPhone 13 first week of September). Their first gen 4nm will probably be used in Apple's 2022 Mac Pros.
I'll be a miracle if Intel is shipping IBM's 2nm fabrication process before 2024-25. I'm thinking 2026 is more realistic. But if it's anything like the trasistion from 14nm to 10nm, then you can tack on another four years.
IBMs msinframes ( the new Z series) might not be suited for your application, but I can promise you one thing, you have iyeracted with servises oacked by this platform,apoerently they are esential for amazon esp during black friday. Some banks and airlines allso use them due to their abillity to run legacy IBM code unmidufied thoys giving them an upgrade path when their older mainframe(s) get to weak and power/ac hungry
Yes while having a significantly more powerful soc, a better screen and faster wifi chip, sorry I missed your point, would you mind telling us what you meant by the first gen ipad reference? I don"t mind comparisons, but when you compare different generations of devices would you mind terribly to compare avrything and not only one aspect, uf I where more supicious I would accuse you of cherry pucking one oeticular thing to make it look like we have made no progress of any value.
1 nanometer is 1,000 picometers, so we will switch to pm. For example, the next design after 1nm might be 900 pm, or it might be written as 0.9 nm, similar to how the 68040 was 0.8 μm (micrometers).When it reaches 0nm technology, does the chip physically disappear?
I've heard similar stories from other industries. For example when the M1 Garand rifle went into mass production, it had serious teething problems. A design that functions well in hand-made prototypes does not always translate to mass production.
Just because the processor is more energy efficient doesn't mean the power is going to get wasted. Screens can be better, radios can be more powerful, and CPU intensive apps can run without severely affecting the battery life.
The processor is only one single part of the iPad that uses power.
Us CPU designers use angstroms, not picometers, so pretty sure we’ll go to angstroms first.
Every year we hear how the chip is much more efficient, yet we still get apple telling us the same old story every year, “iPad all day10 hours battery life”
Then how come iPhones have improved dramatically when it’s comes to battery life since the 11/12 pros?
The iPad is still the same. 🤔
IBM mainframes might only seem useless if you don't have any money in your bank account or brokerage, or fly on any major airlines, etc. High reliability big iron still runs a vast portion of the economy.
Because they added things like 120MHz and miniLED, which suck up battery.
OH BOY! New Mac mini !! BRING IT ON!
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Leaker claims M1X MacBook Pro and Mac mini coming in Q4 - 9to5Mac
According to a leaker, Apple plans to introduce the new M1X MacBook Pro and also an M1X Mac mini in Q4 2021.
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They are developing 2nm, they’re not readying it for production. I think for production- they’re on about 7nm.IBM is actually ahead of them, they are on 2nm.
IBM Unveils World's First 2 Nanometer Chip Technology, Opening a New Frontier for Semiconductors
IBM (NYSE: IBM) today unveiled a breakthrough in semiconductor design and process with the development of the world's first chip announced with 2 nanometer (nm) nanosheet technology....
Yes, which is true, more powerful soc etc ans still 10h battery life = mire efficient soc (mire cycles/w or hiw ever you measure it), ofc apple could have keot tge oerformance the same a few years and let the efficuancy go into incresed battery life, the problem with that is, as always, it would make ipads look bad compared to the premium abdroid tabkets when it cones to benchmarks, and we all know how much some parts if the tech media love to paint apple producers as slow and exoensive, at least until the M1 came on the scene. I fear it 's apples pr department we can blame for this, I might be wrong ofc
Marty you’re not thinking 8th dimensionally enough. Think multiple M based 3nm chips on a logic board for the upcoming Apple Silicon Mac Pro.
Gargantuan Beast Mode will be on. Then we can post meme’s about intel wit’s “Finish Him!” or “30 Hit Ultra Comboooooo!” Lol
A bit off-topic, but… Don’t worry. Cancer research and other aspects of life sciences are also being driven on the shoulders of those chips. Most of the time researchers need supercomputers to get their mathematical models working so that they have some new insights about drug design and delivery, molecular genetics, bioinformatics, protein-protein interactions and stuff… And fyi, death from this or that reason cannot be avoided. Science and tech is just another job field, not something as hollywood depicted. You are right about greedy human beings, though. That’s an unfortunate truth in this life.
There isn't much lower, we can go to 1nm but then what? Do we need that much computation?
Apple seems to have reached higher performance(and more efficient) by switching to RISC , so is improving speeds tied to smaller sizes or are there other ways?
"smaller than a single strand of DNA"....
how do you even can build something so small? how do you design something with 50 billion transistors!? What discovery did you make that made you able to move from 7nm to 2nm? The advancement in technology is mesmerising.
Though I thought IBM is out of the CPU game for reasons I do not understand they could easily as it seems take place of AMD or TSMC. I was told they build CPUs for appliances and machines like cars and airplanes but those to my understanding are much simpler CPUs compared to what is Intel, AMD, and Apple are making. I think I read an article here saying a jet fighter has a G5 CPU.
Apple seems to have reached higher performance(and more efficient) by switching to RISC , so is improving speeds tied to smaller sizes or are there other ways?
IBM is actually ahead of them, they are on 2nm.
IBM Unveils World's First 2 Nanometer Chip Technology, Opening a New Frontier for Semiconductors
IBM (NYSE: IBM) today unveiled a breakthrough in semiconductor design and process with the development of the world's first chip announced with 2 nanometer (nm) nanosheet technology....
"smaller than a single strand of DNA"....
how do you even can build something so small? how do you design something with 50 billion transistors!? What discovery did you make that made you able to move from 7nm to 2nm? The advancement in technology is mesmerising.
Though I thought IBM is out of the CPU game for reasons I do not understand they could easily as it seems take place of AMD or TSMC. I was told they build CPUs for appliances and machines like cars and airplanes but those to my understanding are much simpler CPUs compared to what is Intel, AMD, and Apple are making. I think I read an article here saying a jet fighter has a G5 CPU.