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4.) New File System

Could you elaborate on what exactly you mean here ? What is missing from HFS+ that requires a whole new filesystem ?

I don't think a .x release qualifies as "next-generation". The "next-generation" operating system from Apple will be Mac OS 11.

Not everyone uses the same type of numbering system for their versions. Linux used to use the same .x numbering to mean next generation (2.2 was 2.0's next generation, 2.4 was 2.2's, 2.6 was 2.4's, etc.. Odd numbers were used for dev trees.).

For Apple .x means next generation of OS X. OS X itself is not a single generation product.
 
This could be the last version of Mac OS 10. We're out of "big" cats. This quote sums it up pretty well:

Thanks to klubar via /. for the quote.

Except that before Jaguar, nobody used the names publicly, they were purely internal codenames. They could still use Puma and Cougar as public names. That would get them through 10.9.

Or they could just get tired of the silly names, and go back to plain numbers.
 
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Cue, Elton John - The Lion King Theme ;-) Roar
 
I wonder what (if any) hardware 10.7 will drop, saying this is about 10.7. Since, 10.3, Apple started dropping computers.
-10.3 - needed USB
-10.4 - needed firewire
-10.5 - needed 867+ MGHz G4
-10.6 - needed Intel
-10.7 - need Core 2 (as in no more Core Solo/Duo) (?)

Well, Apple has to support 32 bit applications (they had a choice to make Carbon run in 64 bit, they didn't), so what would be gained by not supporting Core Duo?
 
I totally agree with the dude who mentioned Apple should start naming the new releases after constellations post OSX. That would be very cool. I think it's a very creative approach to future naming solutions.
 
Lower prices please! What good is a great OS and reliable hardware if only a small majority can enjoy it?
 
4) I think the "Back to the Mac" is both a subtle acknowledgement of/response to the criticsm that Apple has focused too much on iOS/idevices AND a reference to integration of Lion with cloud computing. Think about the "back to MY mac" feature in Leopard - access and control your mac and your data from anywhere (provided you're within the Apple ecosystem). And think about the new Apple data center, move to cloud-based applications (inc itunes). And then think about the recent Apple hiring for developers to work on revolutionary OS architectures which are related to HTTP/large web.
I would speculate we'll see some sort of very deep integration between the Lion OS and HTTP/cloud, and that this event will be the first preview of some of the features that will enable.
I would largely agree with the idea of this. I think the GUI will become a bit more minimalist inline with iOS (a bit like Quicktime X?), and I wouldn't be surprised to see crossover here with iOS/OSX. More internet integration in the operating system wouldn't be much of a surprise, and facetime will undoubtedly feature. There maybe a couple of tweaks like Expose, and a refresh of iLife, iWork (with more cloud integration). More things to sell the idea of Mac at home, iDevice for when on the move. Of course, there will be a bit of a refresh with the notebooks as well.

That's my guess.
 
Could you elaborate on what exactly you mean here ? What is missing from HFS+ that requires a whole new filesystem ?

Data integrity (checksums ) and volume management. I doubt the put it in but those are the primary holes. As more folks common store larger and larger amounts of data on disks for a long time, they are going to run into more errors. The drives get better over time but folks don't necessarily move to new drives (and/or run drives over longer periods).

Just like journaling was "high end" and has moved to default for all, over decade will see full path checksums proliferate also. It is not that much more CPU horsepower and there are increasing gobs of cores around to distribute the workload too so not noticable. Filesystems not keeping up after data integrity from memory down to the disk and back has been the "knock" DBMS folks have thrown at filesystems for years (after they started checksumming DB blocks. )

volume management. Lots of folks just want cheaper way to bigger drives. lashing two cheaper drives together as alternative to move expensive bigger one is relatively commonplace now. Spanning more than RAID.

You can put multiple drives into more than just Mac Pros and XServes now. ( iMac and Mac Mini now. Conceptually could do it in laptops also if standard configs swapped mutiple HDDs for HDD/ODD configs. )

Sure you can put a volume manager on top of the filesystem but if you tightly integrate them you leave less holes for problems to crop up into.


That said I think Apple will punt on keeping you data safe and disk utility is enough of kludge to minimally cover a set of volume management needs.

Support for elements unique to SSDs and/or caching with SSDs don't necesarily need a whole new filesystem ( from the developer API perspective. May be lots of new code down below though. Could end up with HFS++ or HFS-deluxe or HFS-Next-Generation or .... )
 
New desktops will run iOS, not support Flash, and require all apps to be purchased from iTunes store. ;)

The day I have to jailbreak my Mac to access the CLI will be the day I build a nice quad core linux box and erase the Mac partition on my current MBP.
 
Make sense!

Finally my Mac makes sense once again! Better not disappoint me Apple with all those enormous size and power they better be useful than my iPhone or iPad. With all the apps and features I can find nowadays my daily routine is now irrelevant to my Mac. Unless you're a professional!
 
Was just searching for it 2 days ago :)

What a coincidence! I was just wondering about mac os 10.7 2 days ago and started searching for it on the web. Very happy to see apple back to the mac. I hope to see iLife 11 as well. :D
 
If you re-arrange the letters on the invite you get: "Bathmat eCock" (my favorite rejected iPhone app, btw)

Clearly Apple is going to make an announcement easing restrictions on adult apps (and apps for lions.)
:p

Just about the funniest thing I've ever read on MR--got my coworkers to gawk, congratulations.

Considering the silent updates lately I think Apple will introduce a hardware redesign at an event like this. My guess is the MBA, but who knows.
 
Well, Apple has to support 32 bit applications (they had a choice to make Carbon run in 64 bit, they didn't), so what would be gained by not supporting Core Duo?

They could drop the Solos since they only had 32-bit support. Yeah the default could still be 32-bit kernel but they could drop some 32+64 dual versions of the userland software if they want. For example, only ship a 64-bit Finder. That's it for Solo. User will still be able to run 32 3rd party apps but Apple has simplifed their QA process.


Slightly less motivated would be dropping the Intel versions that don't have VT (basic hardware VM support). Don't know if Apple is going to ignore the utility of running VMs but there is chance will wake up with 10.7. That may wait till 10.8.

That won't drop all Duos. products ... just the early, somewhat crippled ones.
 
Yes I hope this whole IOS stuff just blows over. I'm seriously hoping Google's Android and Microsoft run Apple over bad enough that Apple calls it quits and puts their engineers back to work on the Mac.

That would be cool. Oh wait, no it wouldn't. The future is the mobile market. Computers as we know it will be the workstations of the future. Professionals, developers, etc. However, those people who have a computer to get on the web, read email, etc. they're going away from traditional computers. Any non-niche company out there will not survive without being heavily involved in the mobile market will die. They'll die the same death as people who specialized in steam engines did when diesel became the norm.

If there's even a hope that Apple keeps the Mac alive (and why wouldn't it? It's still a huge chunk of its business and OS X and iOS share a TON of underlying, complimentary technologies) you have to hope they remain a major player in the mobile market.

"I hope Apple fails at entering the new and upcoming markets. I'd rather their engineers focused on the past because that's a sound business decision."

I'm not saying desktop computing is dead, but it's evolving and the mobile space is going to shape that evolution. Evolve or die.

What do you want to bet they announce so triveal thing like a new screen size notebook or a 0.2 Ghz speed bump?

Don't care. I have the latest 2.4 GHz 13" MBP. This little computer works perfectly. I understand there are some people who measure their penis by their hardware specs, but those people shouldn't be using Macs. Apple sells a platform more akin to an appliance than a PC computer.

You can thank Intel for the current sluggish speed bumps because of their draconian licensing on the i3 - i7 chipsets. No one else can develop chipsets with GOOD integrated graphics. I'm hoping something comes of the AMD rumors. Their processors are currently inferior but their PLATFORM is superior.

It isn't the first time Apple's had this problem either. (The Intel switch came precisely BECAUSE of this kind of crap from Motorola and IBM.)

But maybe with the lion they will push Mac OS X to do some truely new things. Like finally decouple the screen from the computer the app runs on (like X11) Or maybe some other kind of transparent "network computing" where your desktop follows you if you own more than one Mac.

So by "truly new" you mean they would change their current setup to a protocol similar to something introduced in 1987? Really?

The group of people that care about this kind of network computing are NOT the kind of people that are Apple's focus and there is no way it'll be something so niche.

But my gues is a simple IOS emulator that runs under Mac OS so they can sell you iPhone Apps on your mac.

What is wrong with half the posters on this board? Seriously.

"Does Apple still make computers?"

"OS X is going to die in favor of iOS."

"Apple only makes iToys..."

Whine, whine, whine. It's funny too because day in and day out I do development work on a fully functional, rock solid, stable UNIX-based laptop made by that very same company. For a company that seems not to care about their computers anymore, I gotta say... I'm fine with that.

Lenovo apparently cares about their computer and Microsoft cares about their OS, right? Well, a lot of good it's doing them.
 
I have really high expectations, hopefully we won't be disappointed with 10.7..
 
Want: Native USB3 support, native Blu-Ray support, OpenGL 4.1 support, ZFS support, a UI refresh.

Would like to see: 3D monitor support, all native Apple "apps" at 64bit and with OpenCL support (mainly iMovie and iPhoto).
 
Yes I hope this whole IOS stuff just blows over. I'm seriously hoping Google's Android and Microsoft run Apple over bad enough that Apple calls it quits and puts their engineers back to work on the Mac.

Really hope this doesn't happen. The great thing about the mobile revolution is that Apple has had a second 'bite of the cherry'. They lost (debatable?) the first round - the desktop; since Microsoft grabbed the marketshare. It's great that Apple has had a second chance - the iPhone, and it is doing well. (I'm ignoring the fact that Mac has had great adoption rates over the last X years).

There was an interesting post on daringfireball today which said Microsoft are marketing for 'quick glance' mobiles - maybe trying to hold people to their PCs and resist the mobile revolution

But my gues is a simple IOS emulator that runs under Mac OS so they can sell you iPhone Apps on your mac.

I wondered whether something like this might happen, but can't see it happening, since it would cannibalise iPad sales I think, where one of the selling points is the apps. I wouldn't be surprised to see more interaction with iDevices from OSX though; although that would probably infuriate some of the 'die hard' Mac fans on here.
 

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