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6 months later and less than 10% of Android devices are running KitKat. If anyone needs to worry about getting people on the latest OS it's Google.

http://mashable.com/2014/05/05/android-kitkat-adoption/

It's so nice that Google is giving its users the option to stay on a different OS version, instead of torturing the older devices with newer OS which will make them slower. Options and choice are nice.
 
I'm using a 5 year old MBP to respond here. Apple does not play the "roll out a crippling new OS and force you to upgrade" game with their laptops....yet.

And, fortunately, you can always downgrade the OS X running on a notebook. (Even if it means reinstalling the old OS X version from scratch.) Unlike with any iOS device.

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It's so nice that Google is giving its users the option to stay on a different OS version, instead of torturing the older devices with newer OS which will make them slower. Options and choice are nice.

Exactly. As does MS BTW, where OS upgrades are also optional. And neither of these companies are known for crippling old models in new OS versions, unlike Apple. Actually, the contrary is true: 4.4 KitKat runs significantly better on old hardware than previous Android versions.
 
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CEO Tim Cook also noted in the conference call that Apple has started selling iPhone 4's in the "very, very low single digit percentage" and last year said he wanted to sell more iPhones in stores.

Article Link: Apple to Host iPhone Upgrade Event at Retail Stores

COUGH! - The fact that the iPhone 4 (not even 4S) is STILL selling tells you how strong the Apple brand is. Say what you will about popular Samsung is, but the mere fact that the 4 just started selling in the single digits is a testament to how much people still want an iPhone.
 
I just replaced the battery in my wife's iPhone 5 and I feel that she is still good for at least another year because I know Apple is going to update it. But I'm going to take her upgrade and get another Android phone. Thanks Apple for keeping the updates coming? You're allowing me to update my Android device on a yearly bases while the wifey is happy with the timey updates. No wonder Samsung is rolling in the dough.
 
lastly, apple needs to find ways to pay for angela arendt's stock option package somehow

Ahrendts is getting stock valued at $68,000,000 when fully vested. Apple won't be paying out of pocket.

But just for fun... let's see what it would take for Apple to pay her that amount straight up:

Apple profits $71,000 a minute... which is $4,260,000 per hour

So... Apple could actually cover her $68 million... in about 16 hours

:eek:
 
really smart marketing:

1. get as many people on iOS 7 as possible
2. get them into or keep them in the apple closed loop at a reasonable price
3. soak up as much channel inventory as possible prior to launch of iPhone 6
4. boost sales in a slow quarter (just before massive launches in sept/oct (since so so many people are waiting for the next version of iPhone)
5. appeal to budget priced consumers who won't be able to afford a new phone that is more expensive when the
iPhone 6 comes out (no need to offer a budget priced model (not apple to do this))
6. possibly foreshadows issues with iPhone 4s running iOS 8

iPhone 5 upgrade due to the sleep/wake button problem offering a highly incentivising price discount is a part of this same strategy

lastly, apple needs to find ways to pay for angela arendt's stock option package somehow

so in other words...

Running a business. :p
 
I don't think anybody is forcing anybody. The 5s is already king of the hill in terms of premium smartphones. Is the 6 really going to be that much of an upgrade aside from a larger screen?

The larger screen IS one of the biggest upgrades since switching to Retina. At least for me definitely a reason to upgrade. If the rumors are true about iPod-Touch-thickness, too ... Boy, this will be a hell of an upgrade!
 
Exactly. It'd be foolish to purchase an 5s now with the 6 soon being released.

If you want a larger screen yes. But if a larger screen doesn't matter and Apple offers a good deal to upgrade to the 5S why not? Not everyone has to have the latest and greatest phone. For Apple it's a way to boost sales in a slower quarter, draw down channel inventory prior to new phone launch and it fits in with Cook's plan to try and get more phone sales at Apple stores.
 
I really think they're going to surprise us with a new iPhone at WWDC.

This could be to clear old stock, or to get a last iPhone 5S/5C sales boost before the new phone.
 
4.4 KitKat runs significantly better on old hardware than previous Android versions.

This is a great point. I would love to see Apple go down this route.

If, at WWDC, they show a 'system requirements' graph for the new version of OS X vs Mavericks and even vs Snow Leopard, to show off efficiency.

Same thing for iOS 8 vs 7 vs 6.

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Then why the fire sale? They are feeling pressure from their competitors.....

Hardly. They just want to keep going. To sell as much as possible, not to stall and allow the competition to catch up.

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The S5 pulled me over and I doubt I am alone.

Another reason I think we'll see the new iPhone at WWDC. Could be wrong, of course, but won't iOS 8 betas give away instantly compatibility for a 4.7"/5.5" screen?
 
It must be a shrewd way to clear stock and drive people into the stores. Apple doesn't do discount. They are too savvy.

I wonder if the S5 and the improvement of android phones is making them react a little though? September is a long way off for the 6...
 
Another reason I think we'll see the new iPhone at WWDC. Could be wrong, of course, but won't iOS 8 betas give away instantly compatibility for a 4.7"/5.5" screen?

I personally would love the new iPhone starting to sell before July (the holiday month in Finland), particularly if Apple started selling it in also here in Europe quickly. Then, I'd be able to shoot my holiday images / videos with the new iPhone. Assuming, of course, that it delivers better images / videos than my iPhone 5 / Nokia 808; for example, it receives optical image stabilization and/or 4K video and/or even better sweep pano.
 
What level of foolish do you have to be to buy into a soon to be obsolete device that will further be crippled by a forced iOS8 upgrade and virtually bricked in 2015 when iOS9 is forced upon it?

This is a joke of a comment. I have a 2.5 y.o. 4S that runs iOS7 perfectly well. At this point Apple's hardware has caught up with the best software you can throw at it. The 5S will be a very capable phone for years to come. The iPhone 6 will differentiate itself with a bigger screen and better camera.
 
who in their right mind is gonna buy now with a 6 around the corner ?:confused:

Exactly. It'd be foolish to purchase an 5s now with the 6 soon being released.

I get what you guys are saying... But you have to understand that the AVERAGE consumer that Apple is targeting has no idea a new iPhone is coming out.

Apple sells iPhone 4S'/5S'/5C's everyday and will sell them for a few more months.

A bunch of people are waiting, but people who are not into technology like we are have no idea a new phone is coming out. They have a 4S/5 and are happy with it or haven't thought about upgrading yet.

And when they ARE ready to upgrade they'll get whatever phone is out. People want instant satisfaction and instead of waiting, they can just got a 5s/5c immediately.

Just saying.
 
Upgrade event is all well and good but once again is only US based. Apple for all their talk does need to start doing more for it's oversees customers too.

If the deal was right I would possibly grab a 5S
 
Iphone is getting so much press nowadays a lot of people are not bothering with the 5s especially if they are looking for a different screen size.

if someone is content with the current iphone size they should upgrade otherwise people need to be patient.
 
What level of foolish do you have to be to buy into a soon to be obsolete device that will further be crippled by a forced iOS8 upgrade and virtually bricked in 2015 when iOS9 is forced upon it?

In other words "technology".
 
Hey for once I'm finally their target market.... They want me to upgrade my 4.

Oh well, waiting for the 6 at this point. Hoping I make it, every week brings new issues. Last weeks was the edger of the touch screen not working for a few hours.
 
Probably attempting to clear excess stock

If by "excess stock" you mean unspent money hanging around in consumer's wallets, yes. If you mean some stockpile of iPhones in an Apple warehouse, no. Apple doesn't stockpile inventory and hasn't for over a decade. It's well advertised that Apple only keeps at most a 4 week supply of any given product.

This promotion is for those who don't upgrade until their phone dies, technological advances be damned. Apple would prefer as many users as possible get onto iOS 7 (and iOS 8) friendly h/w with reasonably newish handsets.

In a few months the iPhone 4s will be 4 generations old. No doubt many are still happy using that model and see no need to plunk down $200+ for a new phone if theirs still works. I'm a geek so I don't think that way -- 2 years is enough for me -- but a lot of people don't pee their pants in excitement when the newest iPhone is released. So Apple might want to give them an incentive to bump up.

The promo would also help a fiscal quarter which seems void of any stampede creating products -- I don't consider a minor speed bump a big sales maker.

What level of foolish do you have to be to buy into a soon to be obsolete device that will further be crippled by a forced iOS8 upgrade and virtually bricked in 2015 when iOS9 is forced upon it?

And what level arrogance do you have to have to suggest people who get big discounts on current, but soon-to-be discontinued handsets are fools? We don't even know the term of the promotion so you are way to soon to suggest these people are idiots. Not everyone cares about having the latest and greatest phone just like many here don't care to own a nice watch or suit. But if someone with a 4 or 4S can upgrade to a 5S for dirt cheap and they don't care about the 6, more power to them.

Also, do you really think Apple is going to have a promo to get people with "ancient" iPhones to upgrade only to lock them out of the latest OS again? No, Apple is doing this so these people can stay current. I'd be a big bettor that the 5C and 5S will run iOS 8 and 9 just fine.
 
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Then, I'd be able to shoot my holiday images / videos with the new iPhone. Assuming, of course, that it delivers better images / videos than my iPhone 5 / Nokia 808; for example, it receives optical image stabilization and/or 4K video and/or even better sweep pano.

4K is premature. The 4K standards are not in place yet. 4K TVs are still very expensive. TV stations are still just getting to 720p - a few are at 1080 now. Even the just released Xbox One runs some of its games at 720p.

On top of that, the amount of storage space required by 4K video doesn't seem like a very good idea for current smartphones.



I wish for better optics and super slow (+120fps) at 1080p.
 
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