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Apple to Host iPhone Upgrade Event at Retail Stores
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I have an Android phone and the reason Kitkat adoption is not prevalent like iIOS 7 is because all the Android phone makers mess around with the Android OS putting in their own customizations. Those tweaks and changes take a lot of time to sort out and thus push out. Apple makes the OS and the hardware so they can get it out and adopted quickly.
Absolutely disagreed.
1, TV stations, if broadcasting over the air, are forced not to exceed 720p/1080i if they use MPEG-2. There simply isn't bandwidth available. Referring to them to justify staying at Full HD isn't really a good idea. And the Xbox's 720p is because it's a 3D game with millions of polygons and the like - sticking with 720p (as opposed to 1080p / 4K) is because higher resolutions would have resulted in slowdowns. This has nothing to do with "simple" video shooting, where nothing restricts the resolution.
2, 4K recording is well-working in several handsets (Note 3, S5, LG Pro 2, Sony Z2 etc.) now, even with the "old" H.264 standard. When and if H.265 arrives, it'll further reduce the needed bitrate. Nevertheless, the current around 45-50 Mbps bitrate used by, say, the S5 is passable - after all, it's less than 2 times more than 1080p60's bitrate (around 27 Mbps) and only about 2.5 times more than that of 1080p30. I personally have nothing against shooting at an elevated bitrate like that if I know the end result will be a much more detailed and, last but not least, much-much more future-proof than simple Full HD footage.
Again: proper 4K recording using the common H.264 encoders isn't THAT storage-consuming and is proven to work just fine in several flagship handsets from other companies. Why not have the choice in the iPhone6 too if the technology would already support it? Because it's Apple, which has always lagged being the competitors WRT camera tech and/or considers their users so dumb that the users wouldn't ever want to shoot at 4K?
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I really wish this was the case. I really dislike the Autumn launches because it's mostly in the Summer that I shoot pictures / video.
My first thought when reading about this upcoming promotion is that this could hurt iPhone 6 sales. If they entice people to do all sorts of upgrades now, isn't that going to cut into the pool of potential iPhone 6 buyers?
I think it would be a BIG mistake to upgrade now, especially for anyone that thinks they might even remotely have an interest in a larger screen.
I think it would be a BIG mistake to upgrade now, especially for anyone that thinks they might even remotely have an interest in a larger screen.
My wife traded her 3GS in for an iPhone 5 last year around June. She would normally be fine with the cheaper/older phone anyway and this way she got the latest phone.
I decided to hold onto my iPhone 4 and wait until the 5S was released and get a work phone then...but a few weeks back work decided to take back phones. So I am on my old/decrepit iPhone4 that is barely working and the Home button doesn't work much.
BUT...I am holding off for the next phone. the 5S is really nice but i feel i CAN wait now.
I know plenty of folks who have purchased a phone between March-July years before and were fine. i just feel the 6 mo wait is fine for me.
I decided to hold onto my iPhone 4 and wait until the 5S was released and get a work phone then...but a few weeks back work decided to take back phones. So I am on my old/decrepit iPhone4 that is barely working and the Home button doesn't work much.
BUT...I am holding off for the next phone. the 5S is really nice but i feel i CAN wait now.
I know plenty of folks who have purchased a phone between March-July years before and were fine. i just feel the 6 mo wait is fine for me.
Probably won't be better than offers from other stores. We got the iPhone 5 (still the newest model at the time) for my daughter last June for free on contract at Best Buy with a trade in of an iPhone 4. We only had to pay like $10 for tax. Something tells me their offer won't be comparable - like a 5s for free on contract with a 4s or 5 trade-in.
My guess is we're not talking about the same people here, and those that want a larger screen will wait it out. Apple sold 44M iPhones last quarter so not everyone is waiting for a bigger screen.
^^^^ This! Apple is feeling the pressure from their competitors. The S5 is selling better than the S4 last year. The with all the rumors of a larger screen iP6....Apple is afraid they will be stuck with a large inventory of IP5s and IP5c. Why else would they hold this kind of sale? Why else would they push a phone so close to the announcement of the next generation of the iphone product line?
Apple never has "sales" so this is to reduce inventory plain and simple. Its business 101.
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I guess we will see how many iphones they sell all summer huh?
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I wouldn't call the 5s obsolete/soon to be obsolete. It will just become last year's phone. I don't remember seeing any apps out there that are strictly for the 5s and its A7 processor. I have a feeling the 5s will remain viable for quite some time. Heck, my 2 1/2 year old 4s is fine with the exception of the battery, though I am tired of the 3g speed.
I do not get it... You really have to bash Android to show how great Apple is? There are many factors contributing low KitKat adoption rate. It is not because KitKat is bad, it is because: 1. There are many devices running Android, lots of them aren't getting the update. 2. Most manufacture need time to get KitKat ready foe their devices. 3: Sometimes carriers will block updates to certain phones and it takes ages for carrier to approve updates.
Android update aren't as much needed as iOS. Google is updating its core apps through Play Store. You can get most up to date core apps even you running lower version of Android.
Yeah, if Apple allow downgrade, iOS 7 install base could be smaller.
Lol, that's not an "option", that's carriers abandoning handsets once they're out of the door; at least the iPhone has the *choice* to upgrade to the next 2-3 OS versions.
Comments like this always makes me laugh. A naive person with a handful of shares that thinks they are important and that Apple actually cares about their wants/needs.
As for the subject on the thread, carriers are tired of subsidizing expensive phones so I feel we are going to start seeing these kind of things from all companies.
So Mark Gurman tweets that he doesn't know if Apple will be doing any sales, just that they want to get people in the stores. My guess is his story is much ado about nothing but since there is a dearth of Apple news lately any news gets hyped to the nth degree.
Nice straw man.
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Let's see.
Run phone on older version so it runs fast and normal.
Update phone to new version, slow down phone performance and induce new issues. Once upgraded, you can not turn back...The Apple way.
Nice straw man.
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Let's see.
Run phone on older version so it runs fast and normal.
Update phone to new version, slow down phone performance and induce new issues. Once upgraded, you can not turn back...The Apple way.
You realise people have choice, and can choose not to upgrade... right? I just thought I'd bring your attention to free will, in case you'd overlooked it.
NO version of Android brings any worthwhile features worth "upgrading" for; they just swap the button functions around again, add a few more Google apps to confuse users a bit more, trim a few pixels off buttons and release it as "new" - and you watch the Fandroids desperately waiting for "the new version", in the vain hope that it's FINALLY going to be half-decent and usable.
Android is still a steaming mug of Java, and you think "upgrading" in Android, where the mfr of the handset isn't making, refining and thoroughly testing the symbiosis, is better than with iOS? Right...
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There's actually plenty of physical bandwidth. The problem is:
- Current ATSC deployment only supports MPEG-2, not MPEG-4 which is a lot more efficient. This is understandable since changing would require upgrading millions of TVs and we just went through that. NO ONE wants to deal with that **** again.
- TV stations have plenty of bandwidth, but they waste a lot of it on subchannels that nobody watches (6.1 is the main channel, then there's 6.2, 6.3, 6.4, etc.). The picture would be far improved if they'd kill these useless subchannels and broadcast full-bandwidth HD on the main channel.
- Most people have cable or satellite, and thus aren't even customers for OTA television. Thus TV stations don't want to invest in improving their OTA offerings. It's sad, but true.
-a long time OTA TV viewer
- Current ATSC deployment only supports MPEG-2, not MPEG-4 which is a lot more efficient. This is understandable since changing would require upgrading millions of TVs and we just went through that. NO ONE wants to deal with that **** again.
- TV stations have plenty of bandwidth, but they waste a lot of it on subchannels that nobody watches (6.1 is the main channel, then there's 6.2, 6.3, 6.4, etc.). The picture would be far improved if they'd kill these useless subchannels and broadcast full-bandwidth HD on the main channel.
- Most people have cable or satellite, and thus aren't even customers for OTA television. Thus TV stations don't want to invest in improving their OTA offerings. It's sad, but true.
-a long time OTA TV viewer
How is it that Zen is naive? Zen's a shareholder and pleased to see AAPL making an effort to increase revenue. I'm a shareholder and pleased to see them increase revenue, especially ahead of the split.
Until details emerge, we don't know what the Upgrade event will focus on. For all we know, they will be encouraging people to use their bi-annual subsidized upgrades. Yes, the carriers are looking to move away from the subsidized plans, but in reality the customer has always paid at least full price subsidy or not.
The new ART runtime is just awesome.... If you do not know ART is big hidden feature on KitKat, then you do not know Android....
Of course 1080p60 would also be possible with MPEG-2 (even 4K would be, given the necessary bandwidth). It, however, would require double the bandwidth of the current 1080i60. This is why it 1080p60 isn't supported by the MPEG-2-based ATSC.
This is what I've referred to in my original post.
But that was worldwide. Isn't this upgrade event being targeted at US users since most Apple stores are here and most other countries don't do subsidies? How many of those 44 million were sold in the US? Just curious.
I don't know, but why should I be wasting my time lingering at the store when I can just order things online and have them shipped to me, or just go to the store when it's time to pick them up? I mean I know Apple wants more traffic to their store so they can sell people the overpriced accessories, but I'm not biting.