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Apple Vision Pro Could Take Four Generations to Reach 'Ideal Form'
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Didn’t see anyone wearing the VP at the big game🏈
Missed opportunity.
Basically:
It ain't close and thus don't bother buying one nor spending precious time and resources developing for an absolutely microscopic install base for the foreseeable future
This shouldn't have been released
It ain't close and thus don't bother buying one nor spending precious time and resources developing for an absolutely microscopic install base for the foreseeable future
This shouldn't have been released
I know. I don't even want to be tempted to check; best way to ensure that is not to wear one to begin with.
I walk along the magnificent Strand on the Pacific here in LA frequently and what do I see? People with earbuds on looking down at their phones, talking into it rather than enjoying the sight and sounds of the ocean scene. Pathetic really. I am distancing myself from tech, keeping only the truly compelling and useful stuff and limiting how and when I use it.
Sorry to say, but I think your idea of “remaining social” is… optimistic.
That said, I agree that Vision Pro will remain an intermittent device, not like a computer you sit in front of all day.
Hard disagree. All firstmover products are like this. If they were never released, we would never get to the product that most of us should buy. You should not buy one is more accurate (specifically you, not everyone).
Could be even better than direct sunlight for your eyes if outside. Plus Apple could one day invent something that keeps track of eye health with the headset on. Exciting times, well it will be exciting four years from now apparently.
When Vision Pro 3 gets telescopic zoom lenses I bet you'll see a lot more at events. Would be great to wear them at the theatre to zoom in, but they ban recording technology so VP will probably be banned too.Didn’t see anyone wearing the VP at the big game
Macrumors members already knew this before it was released.
Exactly. But writing the truth is not allowed. Even iOS has an eye strain feature.
Agree. Apple Watch 5/6 was also keypoint for the Watch imho and I was right cause S7/8/9 are basically the S6.
But how is Apple supposed to monetize your eye gestures if you won’t wear their new
I’m really enjoying my AVP, using it every day. Especially Complete HeartX which is an AR app. It’s helping me to understand what’s going on with my heart, this has been worth every penny! 👍🏻
Can‘t imagine that the Vision will replace the iPad. The iPad is the #1 thing for me that I use at home to look up things, manage my bank account, book hotels … So in the end it is an internet browsing device.
But maybe I‘m too old and the Vision will develop into something that you will buy for $1200, but at the moment I don‘t see a direction. But for sure the presentation of it wasn‘t an iPhone moment.
But maybe I‘m too old and the Vision will develop into something that you will buy for $1200, but at the moment I don‘t see a direction. But for sure the presentation of it wasn‘t an iPhone moment.
I would be interested to hear the views of people who think AVP will replace an iPad to be honest. It’s such a bizarre statement as they are such different devices. Would people sit watching tv whilst browsing safari wearing an AVP? Or buy one for each of their kids to chuck around and do their homework on?
I’ll ring my boss now and tell him I don’t need my Dell workstation anymore as I have an old iPod for WFH.
i need them to see
When iPad was launched (and often still), people said “I can’t imagine the iPad will replace my Mac”. Yet, here we are, with the iPad being a very real and meaningful market.
I think noone, even Apple, knows yet how the use cases will develop. In a similar way, when Apple Watch was launched, Apple had all kinds of ideas about where it could go, but in the end it became a fitness tracker.
Based on the descriptions I’ve seen from what people find compelling about using it, and from my son’s Quest 2’s, I’m guessing it will become an addition to some people’s digital life, not a replacement of any device you already own. I foresee a future where you own many different gadgets to perform different tasks, all connected with the same user data, so whichever device you grab, you have what you need available to you. We will be less reliant on one specific product to complete all tasks, we will simply use the one best fit for the job. Each product will be able to work independently, yet always be connected and in sync with the others. And can be combined when it makes sense.
We are not quite there yet, and Vision Pro is another fragmentation which will highlight this fact. But I expect this to be a key factor in the software developments going forward.
Side note, I think this could be why there are rumours about a HomePod with a screen. It makes sense to have a setup where you don’t need your phone to play music. This is a problem that is not yet fully solved, in my opinion.
If only someone had invented sunglasses…
(Sorry, the joke was just sitting there… But I agree, sunlight is dangerous)
They were very similar though in regard to being screens. The iPad and AVP are vastly different types of devices though and I couldn’t imagine an AVP being used in many of the scenarios an iPad would be.
My iPad is almost exclusively a casual device for TV/movie watching and light gaming, Facetime etc. I usually travel with both Mac and iPad. I could totally see myself replacing the iPad with an AVP for travelling, except it is very large to pack. I don’t think it will ever be a replacement for the Mac, but it may very well replace a seperate monitor for some people. I could see myself working on the laptop for some of the time (because I often don’t sit at my desk when working anyway), and then put on AVP when I have a specific use where a large screen would be helpful. I don’t see myself answering emails with AVP.
In fact, I’d argue that while an iPad is too “light” to replace the Mac, AVP is too “heavy”. It is not great for casual use. Even a Mac will be better for many casual tasks, especially email (and other text-based communication).
It’s a different product from the rumoured ‘Apple Glasses’, that is certain. It is a high-quality VR headset with great passthrough and a new OS, a direct competitor with HoloLens and Meta Quest. There is a place in the market for that device, and we will have to see how well it sells.
I don’t think it is the future of computing, I have doubts for the consumer vision of the device, but there are good uses for it. It’s a brave step to take, to try and redefine computing around a spatial paradigm, but right now that looks like bravura. The device has good spatial understanding, but how to use that in actual computing tasks is a step that’s still lacking.
I have a reminder in my phone telling me to buy the vision pro in 2030.
The Vision Pro will reach its "Ideal" moment when:
- The wight is reduced by 2/3 of the current one. For something you wear on your head, the weight is of utmost importance. Using plastic, carbon fiber or any new very light-weight material will be a crucial aspect.
- The hardware, including quality of displays, accuracy of sensors, and cameras is improved by factor of 10.
- The software is significantly more polished, intuitive, easy to master and web and apps navigation is a breeze. This will become possible in part when the point above is achieved.
- There is x1000 more high quality entertainment content (movies, series, games, etc).
- Apple finds what works and what not, and focus their attention on core use cases, instead of doing everything. Currently, Apple is exploring potential use cases but it is obvious that entertainment will be the main category.
So, yes, I agree that 3-4 generations down the road, the Vision Pro could become something every average person would want to have as personal electronics.
It may also happen that Vision Pro follows the Apple Watch pattern: minor improvements year after year, without unleashing the true potential of the product due to state-of-technology constraints.
We will see!
P.s. I think the price should not necessarily go down. It is not cheap product, but neither is a high-end Macbook Pro, high-quality OLED TV, a flagship smartphone, a nice bike, a premium kitchen oven, a vacation on the Caribean or Prada bag. If Vision Pro is able to offer some crazy immersive experience and tons of entertainment, they could even increase the price and sell many many millions!
- The wight is reduced by 2/3 of the current one. For something you wear on your head, the weight is of utmost importance. Using plastic, carbon fiber or any new very light-weight material will be a crucial aspect.
- The hardware, including quality of displays, accuracy of sensors, and cameras is improved by factor of 10.
- The software is significantly more polished, intuitive, easy to master and web and apps navigation is a breeze. This will become possible in part when the point above is achieved.
- There is x1000 more high quality entertainment content (movies, series, games, etc).
- Apple finds what works and what not, and focus their attention on core use cases, instead of doing everything. Currently, Apple is exploring potential use cases but it is obvious that entertainment will be the main category.
So, yes, I agree that 3-4 generations down the road, the Vision Pro could become something every average person would want to have as personal electronics.
It may also happen that Vision Pro follows the Apple Watch pattern: minor improvements year after year, without unleashing the true potential of the product due to state-of-technology constraints.
We will see!
P.s. I think the price should not necessarily go down. It is not cheap product, but neither is a high-end Macbook Pro, high-quality OLED TV, a flagship smartphone, a nice bike, a premium kitchen oven, a vacation on the Caribean or Prada bag. If Vision Pro is able to offer some crazy immersive experience and tons of entertainment, they could even increase the price and sell many many millions!
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