Well um... I paid similar prices and I'm happy that I did...because my family all takes advantage of that entertainment system, altogether and individually. Not something a Vision Pro can replicate. If I were a sad sack living alone with that much money to burn I wouldn't be buying expensive entertainment systems to begin with.
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Apple Vision Pro Unlikely to Hit 500,000 Sales This Year, Says IDC
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Well um... I paid similar prices and I'm happy that I did...because my family all takes advantage of that entertainment system, altogether and individually. Not something a Vision Pro can replicate. If I were a sad sack living alone with that much money to burn I wouldn't be buying expensive entertainment systems to begin with.
“Reporting out of Apple” - has Apple shared any numbers? Or do you mean the rumor mill?
Production constraints leading to lower sales would suggest that Apple can’t keep them on shelves. But you can walk into an Apple Store anywhere and walk out with one, so that clearly is not the case.
A friendly reminder that the iPod didn't cost $3,500, nor was the idea of carrying a pocketable music player a foreign or unpalatable concept, like wearing a giant freaking world isolating headset is.
Rumors have sources. Some more reliable than others. This is basic media literacy we’re talking about. Dismissing any negative as “nothing but rumor” is a facile way to redirect the discussion but it doesn’t negate the fact that the most reliable reporting available strongly suggests that the product is not a success in any significant way.
The iPod was instantly desirable to anyone who had exposure to it
Absolutely zero useful to glean there in a comparison with the AVP
The only reason iPods didn't take off even quicker is that music downloading and purchasing was still becoming a "thing" and also the initial ones (& iTunes) were Mac only (which was just a twinkle in mainstream eyes at that particular point in history)
The AVP is standalone, available easily ... and basically nobody wants it
Target market for iPod: anyone with a pocket and interest in music.
Target market for Vision: ???
I like mine. I use mine. It fills an important role in work.
I simply don't understand, have never understood, the feverish passion that so many of you have toward this product. It makes me giggle to see how desperately you jump into every thread about the AVP to talk smack about it. Seriously, get a hobby.
Let’s not make it a referendum on personalities. That isn’t what’s happening.
You claimed that the bottleneck was production constraints. That isn’t accurate. They’re able to make more than enough to satisfy the weak demand for it. The MacStudio isn’t a relevant comparison. The Studio isn’t a new product class. It’s a Mac.
Look at the below “rumor”, and there were other stories at the end of Jan after the launch that Apple has already sold 180-200k.
Media needs clicks, people here like to discuss whatever the media feeds them, and that’s fine, after all the is an Apple rumors site.
Bringing up the iPod is absolutely hilarious, as it's such an inaccurate comparison to make
I remember being at a party with one of the very first iPods and it was literally a "chick magnet"
You couldn't get the girls away from it.
They LOVED it...
It was an absolute "dance party creator"
The AVP couldn't be further from that description
I remember being at a party with one of the very first iPods and it was literally a "chick magnet"
You couldn't get the girls away from it.
They LOVED it...
It was an absolute "dance party creator"
The AVP couldn't be further from that description
They revised their projected sales figures shortly AFTER the product release and now it appears they won’t even meet that figure.
That was an early rumor, and yet you don’t want to use that as a datapoint, whatever, keep on bashing the VPro, that’s fine.
You as others are all entitled to your opinions and that’s all there is
I was the only person I knew who owned a gen 1 iPod. Your description is accurate. It spent more time in the hands of my friends than it did mine. That’s how interested in it people were.
On a scale of 0 to 10 with 10 being iPhone level of sales/want, people are at a 3, that's not hate. You should be asking why can't you run Xcode on the vision pro.
I’m not excluding any specific data points. I’m evaluating based on an assessment of the overall reporting available.
Literally, there are no successful AR/VR devices for consumers and even Meta considered as not successful as people did not use it continuously. The purpose of Apple Vision Pro is already limited without doubts which cant be improved.
It would be better to advertise as professional or B2B device but then AVP was never meant for that.
It would be better to advertise as professional or B2B device but then AVP was never meant for that.
“They” are Apple. Context clues. The source is various articles posted here and elsewhere.
Yep. And again, we’re not the ones trying to make that comparison. We’re simply pointing out how absurd it is.
1) "most of the world" != Everyone
2) Mark Zuckerberg thought lots of people would, actually. Went and changed his company's name on that bet
I'm afraid that to start the "killer app" would need to be a really great game. I know Apple doesn't want to pigeon hole the device too far into entertainment but they have to start somewhere.
The tech inside the Vision Pro would truly make for a mind blowing game in VR that could set a new standard and create buzz. The problem is, Apple needs to front the entire cost. Perhaps they are doing that and we don't know it--but just a few experiences like that would motivate me.
The tech inside the Vision Pro would truly make for a mind blowing game in VR that could set a new standard and create buzz. The problem is, Apple needs to front the entire cost. Perhaps they are doing that and we don't know it--but just a few experiences like that would motivate me.