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MagSafe Duo is great for perpetual travelers.

One cable and I get an elegant way to charge my iPhone and Watch in any hotel or AirBnB. Speed isn’t the goal.

If you live in one place then don’t sweat - this product isn’t for you.
That's right, as long as it looks nice for them as they charge their battery slowly. Their battery health will outlast others too.
 
People defending Apple for a fairly recently released MagSafe Duo Charger not charging fast enough, and not accommodating a cased 13 Pro, on the basis that it was released a couple of years ago. I’m still using an AirPort Extreme with 2TB. Now THAT just works!
 
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Has Apple Inc. announced a trade in or recycling program for the old chargers?

Or is there no money in it for them so they're happy to have them all thrown in landfill?
Option C: Just keep the charger which still functions exactly as it did when you initially purchased it.

Option D: sell or gift it to someone that doesn’t consider the fast charging of the Watch a deal breaker for something they’ll likely put on a night stand and use overnight over 7-8 hours anyway.
 
So, as neither the new iPhone 13 pro Max nor the Apple Watch series 7 come with a power brick in the box, but both devices support fast charging, what are the «minimum» watt original Apple chargers to buy to get fast charging with the iPhone and the watch? I know it was the 18w (or was it 20w?) for the iPhone 12 pro Max, but has it changed this year?
 
MagSafe Duo is great for perpetual travelers.

One cable and I get an elegant way to charge my iPhone and Watch in any hotel or AirBnB. Speed isn’t the goal.

If you live in one place then don’t sweat - this product isn’t for you.

huh? That’s the opposite of what I would expect it to be useful for. When I am traveling I take a lot of pictures, videos or in the case of the Watch, lots of walking and thus I need to charge my devices back up to 100% as fast as possible before leaving the hotel again compared to when I am home, there I don’t need fast charging as I will be … home, sleeping
 
Well puck [sic] Apple! That is planned, purposeful obsolescence. You don’t think Apple became a trillion dollar company without screwing over customers right and left, now do you? That is why they often change the size of iThingies just enough to make you have to buy another case, and now they change the charging specs to screw you over too. Steve was a greedy turd, but Tim is pure evil…
You’re right. Adding less than a millimeter of thickness to the latest iPhones vs the 12’s is the most insane thing ever. All of a sudden, our previous cases with all the different colors and MagSafe magnets are landing in a landfill. The hypocrisy of humanity is going to be the cause of its downfall :((((
 
Apple never stated that the Mag Sage charger could charge the Apple Watch 7 quickly. Never even hinted at it. Why is this even an article.
 
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one questions about the duo charger since ive never seen it. Is it soft foamy plastic like? Every time i see it all i see is a children's toy and i hate the way it looks.
 
MagSafe Duo Charger was revolutionary in a lot of ways. But unfortunately, technology doesn't stand still. There are always groundbreaking new technologies coming, and the new Fast Charge Apple Watch is one of those with all the built-in smarts that protect the integrity of your Apple Watch battery.
 
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MagSafe Duo Charger was revolutionary in a lot of ways. But unfortunately, technology doesn't stand still. There are always groundbreaking new technologies coming, and the new Fast Charge Apple Watch is one of those with all the built-in smarts that protect the integrity of your Apple Watch battery.
combining two chargers is revolutionary?
 
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Not to worry they'll come out with a MagSafe Duo Pro shortly for $189, and the Apple sheep will still buy it if they did. The MagSafe Duo was stupidly overpriced anyway.
 
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Conceptually it may seem trivial, but it's obvious they invested a lot of R&D in getting this piece of technology precisely right. The form, function, the design - it's striking.

How many other "chargers" would you describe as a joy to use?
having to buy the charger brick on top of buying an incredibly over priced charger would deflate any joy from it.

But hey we all pay the apple tax, just some more than others.
 
huh? That’s the opposite of what I would expect it to be useful for. When I am traveling I take a lot of pictures, videos or in the case of the Watch, lots of walking and thus I need to charge my devices back up to 100% as fast as possible before leaving the hotel again compared to when I am home, there I don’t need fast charging as I will be … home, sleeping
Unless you are only in the hotel for the matter of mins the speed the MagSafe duo will charge both back up will be still quick enough to last you through the night.
 
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The point is. this MUST BE deliberate.
It's widely known that Apple, and other companies, are start on products Three Years in advance of their launch date.
So it can't be the fact that Apple releases a charger one year, and then next year the new watch/phone won't work at it's best on it. As they knew, 1, 2, 3 years ago that they were designing these items and this would be the case.

It physically cannot be that this is just accidental. It was planned to happen this way.
 
The point is. this MUST BE deliberate.
It's widely known that Apple, and other companies, are start on products Three Years in advance of their launch date.
So it can't be the fact that Apple releases a charger one year, and then next year the new watch/phone won't work at it's best on it. As they knew, 1, 2, 3 years ago that they were designing these items and this would be the case.

It physically cannot be that this is just accidental. It was planned to happen this way.

I'm no Apple apologist, but....

You don't design a current product to take advantage of features *that may* appear in a future product. The MagSafe Duo probably went into production a couple of years ago, long before the final spec was nailed down for Apple Watch Series 7. They wouldn't have known what the final spec of Apple Watch Series 7 would be, how the fast charge would work etc. before MagSafe duo went into production.

In other words, Apple couldn't design and test against a fast charge spec that wasn't finalised at that point.
 
Apple's aggressive lack of backwards compatibility throughout so many products really is one of their weakest points.

Though it's also probably one of their primary money-making strategies, so I don't see this changing anytime soon.
 
Apple's aggressive lack of backwards compatibility throughout so many products really is one of their weakest points.

Though it's also probably one of their primary money-making strategies, so I don't see this changing anytime soon.

Apple always launches the best product it possibly can every-time it goes to market. What they can potentially earn from future updates is never a motivator to hold things back. Apple is always about being the best it can be today.
 
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Apple's aggressive lack of backwards compatibility throughout so many products really is one of their weakest points.

Though it's also probably one of their primary money-making strategies, so I don't see this changing anytime soon.

They’re still selling and supporting the S3 so I’m not sure backwards compatibility is somehow lacking.
 
Apple always launches the best product it possibly can every-time it goes to market. What they can potentially earn from future updates is never a motivator to hold things back. Apple is always about being the best it can be today.

That is just not true.

If that's the case we should've had 120Hz iPhones last year and the power button TouchID on this years models.

What about the garbage 720p webcams that current Macs STILL ship with in 2021 (hopefully that changes in a few days). You can't possibly believe that the technology for a compact 1080p webcam doesn't already exist.

How about the $5000+ iMac Pros not being able to run the advanced Apple Maps view just because it doesn't have an M1 chip in it?

Apple has never been a benevolent operation that strives to make products the very best they can be in that moment in time. They strategically trickle in features to create incremental updates that keeps people coming back and upgrading as frequently as possible.

Please understand, I am not presenting this as moral criticism. Apple is a business, this is how businesses maximize profit. It is merely an observation.
 
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