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I'm not sure you could pay someone enough to read through all this garbage.

You did it. And I’m assuming unpaid.

But 99% of this forum is pointless complaining. How can they get useful information from so much noise?

That’s your opinion. If anything, they might realize many of their customers are unhappy with the way things are currently going with their company.
 
I'm not the guy you responded to, but your jumped-to conclusion isn't necessarily correct. I was very intent to replace my 10.5 pro prior to the 11 pro annoucement because the white spot bothers me and because my 10.5 pro is bent. My main concern was making sure the next gen was structurally sounder, then the 11 pro specs were revealed, and it was super thin. Shortly after we got bend-gate comfirmation.

So the 11's bendiness is literally the sole reason I didn't buy one.
my 2017 10.5 pro LTE is incredibly easy to flex as well, and it did get bent, somehow.
 
You're assuming wrong. Unpaid yes, but I hardly read through hundreds of posts here. With all the repetition you can easily read every few pages and know what people think.
It’s quite entertaining to be quite honest...lol
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No biggie. My Microsoft Surface is perfectly flat.
Not to go off topic...somewhat related..but how is the durability of sp?
 
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Does a Pre-Bent iPad Pro 11 meet your quality standard or not? Yes or No. Please answer.

lol

Well.. technically it would because user doesn't know about it yet, or hasn't tried yet. Just because someone else writes a article about it doesn't make it truth, no matter the numbers affected.. It just makes it more accurate. "as able to tell the truth"
 
its unibody design meets or exceeds all of Apple's high quality standards of design and precision manufacturing

"You're seeing it wrong".....
 
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Not to go off topic...somewhat related..but how is the durability of sp?
I actually have a Surface Book 2 but use the tablet portion quite frequently by itself. As there's no keyboard cover when detached like on the SP, I try to be gentle with it. But very happy with it thus far.
 
I hate to spoil the positive party, but what use is a fast processor when a phone os is holding down the potential of it?

Integration between hard- and software is an area everyone is focusing on today. Apple isn’t the leader in that anymore but wants you to believe it is.
Lmao. Ok!! Let’s name a couple that can integrate software and hardware like Apple. That’s just a stupid statement. Because no one else is even close to Apple.

Google designs android and the pixel, and can’t even get that right. Anyone else TRYING to integrate is a joke compared to Apple. You have no argument.
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Surface Pro and other detachables come darn close. They run a real OS, have decently fast processors i3/i5/i7, have good touch and pen support and have keyboard and mouse support. I really, really like mine and it beats the iPad in most things because it runs real apps and can run many of them at the same time.
What are you talking about? Does surface have 120 hz. Screen? It’s djsplay isn’t as bright. iPad Pro has a better battery. It’s cheaper too. It also has the A12X which pretty much destroys anything else out right now.
 
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I hate to spoil the positive party, but what use is a fast processor when a phone os is holding down the potential of it?

Integration between hard- and software is an area everyone is focusing on today. Apple isn’t the leader in that anymore but wants you to believe it is.
Is it though?

The point of iOS is to spend your time in apps. While few, there are still apps which can tap on the full power of the A12 processor. For example, apps like Lightroom mean that you are not only able to have RAW photos in your iPhone or iPad, but even edit / review them in situations where a Mac and giant display is not feasible, such as on your couch, waiting in line etc.

In my opinion, that an iPad sports a phone OS is its entire appeal, because this means I am getting the computing power and screen estate of a Mac and the simplicity of iOS. The Mac is still there for people who want a Mac, which in turn frees up the iPad to excel on its own terms.

And it's easy to say that you are integrating hardware and software, just like it's easy to slap an iris scanner on a phone and claim feature parity with the iPhone X. What's harder is doing it properly. Not all face scanners are created equal (Face ID continues to be miles ahead of many android offerings), and as Google has shown, there's more to integration than simply slapping Chrome OS onto a tablet form factor and calling it a day.
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And nice update by Jonathan Morrison, showing himself editing 4k footage while screen recording, with no dropped frames. The Pixel Slate lags just from people looking at it.

What's that about hardware / software integration again?
 
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What are you talking about? Does surface have 120 hz. Screen? It’s djsplay isn’t as bright. iPad Pro has a better battery. It’s cheaper too. It also has the A12X which pretty much destroys anything else out right now.

Who cares about a 120hz screen? I don't have one even on my desktop and don't miss or need it. Sure the iPad has a better battery. But my SP lasts long enough for me. And at $699 for the SP with M3 and keyboard was cheaper than an iPad. And will run real apps. It's not the fastest but the iOS "multitasking" and whatnot is a kludge at best and unworkable for many. I love that I can take it and my camera and have an on the road photo culling and editing machine. I love the touchscreen + pen, love that it's a real OS, etc. Surfaces also come perfectly flat out of the box.

Surfaces Pro's start at $749 and Surface Go's at $399. I'd take either over any iPad. Been there, done that have the scars and T-Shirt.
 
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
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Who cares about a 120hz screen? I don't have one even on my desktop and don't miss or need it. Sure the iPad has a better battery. But my SP lasts long enough for me. And at $699 for the SP with M3 and keyboard was cheaper than an iPad. And will run real apps. It's not the fastest but the iOS "multitasking" and whatnot is a kludge at best and unworkable for many. I love that I can take it and my camera and have an on the road photo culling and editing machine. I love the touchscreen + pen, love that it's a real OS, etc. Surfaces also come perfectly flat out of the box.

Surfaces Pro's start at $749 and Surface Go's at $399. I'd take either over any iPad. Been there, done that have the scars and T-Shirt.
After using it for 5 minutes I realised that it’s a tablet like computer that Microsoft wants me to use with a mouse and keyboard. Which is a joke. And in fact I have never seen anyone using a surface without that keyboard accessory. It has a half ass touch support that your “real apps” do t work well with.
 
The new iPad Pro was a serious let down and kept my money from purchasing two this year, will wait and see if the #BendGate issue is solved, this is not acceptable for the price point.

What has happened to Apple design and quality control?
 
The new iPad Pro was a serious let down and kept my money from purchasing two this year, will wait and see if the #BendGate issue is solved, this is not acceptable for the price point.

What has happened to Apple design and quality control?
It’s lacking for the iPads that were bent but for the ones that aren’t? It’s still there.
 
Surfaces also come perfectly flat out of the box.
No biggie. My Microsoft Surface is perfectly flat.
You're two of the lucky ones.

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