You get a sense with the recall data asking for serial numbers between such and such a range. That’s my conjecture.
Even the issue with the iPhone 6 wasn’t 100% because my son had one. It worked till he dropped it.
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Apple's Dan Riccio Says 2018 iPad Pro 'Meets or Exceeds' Quality Standards of Design and Precision, More Info to Come
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Even the issue with the iPhone 6 wasn’t 100% because my son had one. It worked till he dropped it.
I still love apple for many things .
Though hate Cook for his greed. You are now forced to get AppleCare, look at the replacement costs for an x or iPad Pro screen, due to Apple design choices .... so ridiculous, apple care makes sense now and is almost needed so you feel with good about your purchase .
If I get a iPad Pro, will probably be top spec , Spending £2k, AppleCare makes sense, cause i may bend it...
Or maybe I define abuse as abuse. Don’t put your caseless max in tight Jean back pockets and then sit in a car seat, comes to mind. That’s just one example of moving the conversation from the “couch” to the “car”.
So any failure rate less then 100% is 'small' in your warped world? I just about fell off the chair with that one.
I can see the advert now: "Yugo, our cars have a small failure rate of 97-percent after a year of use. If you want reliable, you want a Yugo!"
In the email, Riccio says that the iPad Pro's design "meets or exceeds" all of Apple's quality and precision standards.
Article Link: Apple's Dan Riccio Says 2018 iPad Pro 'Meets or Exceeds' Quality Standards of Design and Precision, More Info to Come
I guess, your quality and precision standards aren't worth a penny then.
You were always forced to get AppleCare. Apple products have been expensive since day 1.
I'm sure you can come up with examples of 'obvious' abuse. I argue these devices are so wide and so thin that even with normal handling in the real world, the law of physics suggests they're liable to get bent, even without being horrendously abused.
Wide and fat like a brick may not be what consumers really want, even though there is a middle ground.
That does not work. That recall is only for that one issue . Does not mean the other units don’t have defects. You are just acknowledging this one defect as very serious , and doing a recall.
A structural integrity design issues , does not mean 100% fail rate, it means that affected areas are more prone . Hence those areas were reinforced in 6s
Nope. That’s your hyperbolic interpretation. If you had to guess, do you think apples programs involve 100% of the affected product?
I see. Once again you go the straw man route. As if there's only two options: A device exactly as thin as the current iPad Pro, or something that's 3 inches thick.
Yes, there IS a middle ground, and apple passed it a while back.
Exactly. Companies modify previously engineered components during the life of a product. This is not new or unheard of.
Repair costs have been doubling
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/iphone/repair/service/pricing
You are now forced as a £999 iPhone costs £600 to fix.... ridiculous.
AppleCare in the past was never needed. You are forced now cause Tim Apple sells £1500 iPhone and with £600 repair .... yeah forced ....
I'm still not getting you. Who is saying there's 100% of apple devices that fail? Why are you fixated on 100%? Christ, a failure rate of 8-percent would be pretty horrendous.
If you want the actual, number, you win! Yay! Because apple doesn't release those numbers. I'm Just using common sense to see that any device that wide and thin in absolutely going to be fragile and easy to bend.
Straw man? As opposed to your last post, which was not a straw man at all.
If apple made these devices slightly thicker maybe there would be less of these alleged integrity issues.
You seem to have an axe to grind with apple. Why buy their products?
Edit: It's my guess apple didn't want to replace screens for the cheap, hence the price increase and hence the requirement to purchase applecare.
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Straw man? As opposed to your last post, which was not a straw man at all.
If apple made these devices slightly thicker maybe there would be less of these alleged integrity issues.
YES. Slightly thicker. That's all I'm saying. The problem, from my perspective, is that apple in the past several years is always trying to push it, make devices even thinner than before, and there's a hard limit to how for they can take it before exposing these devices to these kind of bend issues.
But again, that's my main beef with you. You have sounded like you are cheering them on to make these already overly thin and fragile devices even lighter and thinner. That's why I'm dusting it up with you.
He he . Oww you don’t get to pigeon hole me as a hater
not that easy bud.I’ve been with Apple since 1980, have stock , and am very much within thier ecosystem. I’ve owned more products than most on this thread .
I was also a huge admirer of Jobs, for me he was apple, and thank god lots of his legacy lives on . He wanted to make products for the average people to make their lives easier . And he would always argue with the board to keep prices down, so as many as people could enjoy Apple products , want a vision eh!
What I hate is current pricing , sky rocketing, meaning Apple is becoming a company for the rich! I blame cook.
I want apple products to be cheaper and be durable and you say I hate apple, be a consumer mate.... it’s a company not a religion .
As a stock holder I don’t want Apple to be a company for the rich and elite, a high street brand . Tim can take Angela with him, we have lots of fashion companies, don’t make Apple another one
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Yeah, I never used to buy AppleCare. I now have it on every Apple product I own, with the exception of AirPodds (not sure if they even offer it on that product).
I actually don’t believe thin is the issue . It’s the penny pinching , 6s demonstrates than can do thin and durable.
I bet the 6s case cost more to make than 6
It's just more intelligence when it comes to design.
Some things work in tension, some in compression. All materials have their own best properties.
Like concrete. super strong in compression, but rubbish in other ways, so you use steel to reinforce it, on in a bridge, you use wires under tension to keep the concrete in compression.
Aluminium is fine, but when it's thin, you must add in either extra materials or designs to strengthen it in the directions needed.
Perhaps Titanium or Carbon fibre?
Even some plastic can be unbreakable and feel solid with a sheet of only a few mm thick.
It's 100% apples poor design and material use. Nothing else.
Some things work in tension, some in compression. All materials have their own best properties.
Like concrete. super strong in compression, but rubbish in other ways, so you use steel to reinforce it, on in a bridge, you use wires under tension to keep the concrete in compression.
Aluminium is fine, but when it's thin, you must add in either extra materials or designs to strengthen it in the directions needed.
Perhaps Titanium or Carbon fibre?
Even some plastic can be unbreakable and feel solid with a sheet of only a few mm thick.
It's 100% apples poor design and material use. Nothing else.
Same here . The products cost too much not to get it .
I never used to have it since being with apple long time ago