I don't know about that. All the reporting was that Apple wanted to use both but couldn't make it work in time for launch. Not that they always wanted to ditch Touch ID.
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Apple's Face ID Turns Android Makers Away From Under-Screen Fingerprint Recognition
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3rd party developers won’t have access to the data stored in the secure enclave. They have access to the 3D depth sensors to do AR + facial tracking.
Apple has ditched under the screen TouchID, enjoy your 6s/ SE, 7 or 8 in 2020+ when 95% of all smartphones have also ditched all forms of TouchID and moved onto their version of FaceID.
That’s actually the last version of Windows I used so for me it kind of is 3.1 forever lol.
You’re scenario wouldn’t happen. The phone would basically only be unlocked while looking at it. Due to the already existing feature (since the 6s) Raise to Wake also turns the screen off when you put it down (same as it turns the screen on when raising it up.) Once the screen is off it is locked again.
I laughed out loud for real when I saw this!
The scary thing was that this never seems out of the realm of possibility with apple anymore
There's a setting in iOS 10 to let you unlock without pushing the button. Works great.
TouchID under the screen doesn’t magically allow a camera and earpiece to also disappear. So how does the notch impact the screen more with FaceID vs still needing a place for the camera and earpiece with TouchID under the display?
Besides the notch itself doesn’t technically take away from usable screen. It actually adds. Because it allows all status bar info to be moved off the usable screen into the ears, giving you more usable screen because the app can now extend all the way to the top of the usable screen space (vs previously the top portion was unusable because of the status bar)
I think the other manufacturers understand how obsessed people are with Apple and how they will buy whatever they make, and they don't want to be seen as inferior, even if it may not be the best decision - I'd say fingerprint scanner under the display would have been sweeter.
So they are indeed trend setters, but that is a bad thing in this example.
They could have easily made TouchID more advanced, instead of that they downplayed it and made it sound less secure than it should be, face ID is going to be a nightmare, there is no way I am looking at my phone and waiting for it to decide it's me before paying for something in a shop, and on top of that, you will have to pretty much stare at the phone before it unlocks, not for me. Sticking with the iPhone 7/8 - and only just after the mess that is iOS11
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The way I see it is, they tried to put Touch ID under the display, failed, and thought let's do something easier. Not the best decision imo.
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The way I see it is, they tried to put Touch ID under the display, failed, and thought let's do something easier. Not the best decision imo.
With its iPhone X debut and the introduction of Face ID, Apple has now tilted interest in the mobile industry away from under-display fingerprint recognition, and instead towards camera-based 3D sensing technologies as the ideal user authentication solution. That's according to the latest research note from respected KGI securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
According to the new note seen by MacRumors, inquiries by Android smartphone vendors into 3D-sensing technologies have at least tripled since Apple unveiled its TrueDepth camera and Face ID technology, which replaces traditional Touch ID fingerprint recognition in the iPhone X, set to launch in November.
Currently, the solutions available to Android phone vendors are said to be from Qualcomm and Himax, Orbbec, and Mantis Vision, with the more mature Qualcomm-Himax solutions attracting the most attention.
Kuo went on to say he believes the next two to three years will see shipments of 3D sensor-equipped Android devices to exceed those with under-display fingerprint recognition by a factor of two or three or more. This will be mainly due to 3D-sensing's wider compatibility with LCD screens than under-display optical fingerprint recognition, which is exclusive to OLED panels, said Kuo.
The KGI analyst also believes Samsung's continual dominance of the high-end OLED panel market over the next two to three years will mean shipments of under-display optical fingerprint recognition will remain significantly capped.
Regular MacRumors readers may recall that some reports claimed Apple struggled to implement under-display fingerprint recognition for its most advanced iPhone to date and instead opted for facial recognition as the exclusive authentication method as a result. In retrospect however, Kuo accurately contradicted that report shortly after it appeared, while well-connected Apple journalist John Gruber has also cast doubt on the assertion that Touch ID had been planned for iPhone X, claiming Apple had been "all-in" on replacing Touch ID with Face ID for over a year.
In an earlier report, Kuo said he believes it will take Apple's Android competitors up to two and a half years to replicate the functionality and user experience of the TrueDepth Camera in the iPhone X. He has also previously said that should Apple's TrueDepth camera prove to be popular with consumers, all of the company's future iPhones are likely to adopt the feature.
Face ID will become available to the public starting on November 3, the official launch date for the iPhone X.
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War on Islam. Wow Apple Steve Jobs would have never allowed this.
Well...if you choose to believe what Apple told Gruber and what Ming Chi-Kuo said (they both do have some credibility), then Apple has decided right from the start to ditch Touch ID and focussed all efforts on Face ID.
Let's just wait for people to decide, shall we ? Last time Phill Schiller said they were innovating, it was at the beginning of mac pro 2013 fiasco.
Haha. Not at all. Iris scanner is an old technology that nobody actually likes or uses, because it requires that your eye must be in certain angles, making it far less convenient than face id.
But I would definitely prefer to have Both face id and under-screen touchid in iPhone 2019. Because there is some use cases that face id is less convenient than touchId
I don’t remember Face ID being on people’s radar for “features we want in the next iPhone” Honestly, Apple hyped it up big time which means the fanboys will have to defend it, big time....
I still think iphone will have both in 2019 though. Because some people might still prefer touch id. And by 2019, under-screen touch id might be practical and cheap enough.
Moving the TouchID sensor from the top layer of the device to underneath the display does nothing to improve security. It only makes the sensors “invisible”. FaceID improves security (because it has more data points to authenticate with) and makes the actual process of unlocking “invisible”. Most people are already looking at their device when preparing to unlock. FaceID will have it unlocked already for you during that process, seamlessly.
TouchID wasn’t on people’s “radar” either for “features people want in the next iPhone” and yet here we are, years later, people worried of its demise to something potentially better.
People kicked and screamed just as much about TouchID being added as people are kicking and screaming now about FaceID.
Dear Android handset manufacturers, please keep fingerprint readers. They're far superior. Be your own thing, don't just ditch it because Apple does.
You mean all the reporting on rumors. Nobody knows what Apple was planning.
But it suits the narrative of certain people or news sites to imply Apple had to settle for the “inferior” FaceID because their engineers failed to make TouchID under the screen work. As long as it makes Apple look bad in some way.
A lot of Apple’s past emphasis on user privacy makes a lot more sense in the context of faceid. In a way, FaceId really only works as a selling point if you truly believe that the company behind the technology can and will protect your privacy, even from the government. Apple now has a history of standing up to law enforcement to defend the privacy of touch id, so now people believe they are reasonably safe using FaceId.
I don’t get it. Why people keep talking about $1,000 like it is a lot of money over 2 years.
How much do u spend on other gadgets or camera or something you use not very often?
Apple also provides iPhone 8 at lower price.
If u feel iPhoneX is too expensive, then don’t buy it.
I used to buy a Nokia mobile phone at 2,000 usd and it has only 12 digit dispaly, just like a calculator.
A Chanel leather bag costs like 4-5,000 US dollars. What do u say about that?
Actually, Apple hasn't admitted anything like this. Out of every million people, there is on average one who looks enough like you to unlock your phone. (The one-in-a-million chance doesn't mean someone can try a million times until they succeed, it means there is one who will always succeed, and the rest will always fail).
Your identical twin has a higher chance to be a person who can unlock your phone. But most identical twins can't. Some can. So one in thousand identical twins shouldn't buy an iPhone X if they don't trust their twin, and if the twin is likely to get physical access to the phone. The same is of course true for that twin.
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Well, it is a lot of money. But (a) Apple sells a lot of cheaper phones. A Maybach is about $200,000, but Daimler-Benz sells lots of cars that are a lot cheaper. And (b) there is no need to buy a new phone every two years. Maybe in the USA, where the phone companies have contracts where you continue paying off your phone even after two years when it is fully paid. In the UK, after two years the monthly cost of your phone contract just drops massively. If you use your phone for four years, the first two years are expensive, the next two years are cheap.