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Any company can take facial recognition technology already in the market today and shove it into a phone. But to do it as well as Apple?

This is classic Apple doing what it does best: take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and delivering a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.
Well written. Apple is the best in doing that. They hardly introduce something first, but they do it right.
 
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I might be in the minority but I don't think this is good news. I really have grown to like my 6s with finger print reader. I'm still on 9.3.5 so I have what I believe is the 2nd gen which is instant the min I touch the ID button. I love it.

What I hate is I upgraded my iPad to iOS 10 and I hate having to Touch ID button but then also pressing it down as it always gives false readings. It's like a chore to use it touching pressing down touching pressing down. While my iPhone 6s is perfect I touch it and it opens instantly every time all the time, never had a false reading.

I think Apple changed the way Touch ID works in iOS 10 just to aggrevate people into buying the face reader. It worked fine when they first introduced it especially when they made it quicker the 2nd yr like on my 6s.
Settings>General>Accessibility>Home Button>Rest Finger to Open
 
I Want My Touch ID and I will keep my touch ID.

This is heading to the following.....

I want my headphone jack and I will keep my headphone jack
I want my optical drive and I will keep my optical drive
I want my flash player and I will keep my flash player
I want my floppy disc and I will keep my floppy disc

Yeah man....do whatever makes you happy
 
I want my son's Commodore 64 back---;)

No headphone jack was big mistake according to some. But, now Pixel 2 has none.

I doubt I am buying a new iphone and never gave much thought to Face ID. But, lately I am seeing times when I wish I had it.

I didn't want to give up 8 tracks either, but would not go back.
 
Not true, once you look at the phone it’s unlocked. Anyone can swipe up and open it.

Right now I frequently raise my phone, check for notifications or news, then lay it back down. My phone is still secure, because I have not used touchID. FaceID will have unlocked my phone and when I walk away from my desk it will be open to anyone.
It doesn’t stay unlocked indefinitely. We don’t know how long it gives us, and won’t until November 3, but we know it’s not going to be long at all. That would be silly and defeat the purpose of Face ID in the first place.

Also, just like now, you can press the sleep/wake button to turn the screen off and lock it again. I do that all the time after checking my lock screen.
 
I've come to the realization that Apple has carefully crafted their Reality distortion field to follow a very American style "win at all cost" mentality.

That means, there can only be 1 way to do anything, and that way is the right way and that way is the winning way. Apple pushes this message and this mentality regularly.

its manifesting itself now again with the faceID v ToucHID. FaceID is not a bad thing. adding more security options is great for us as the user. And I get there was a technical limitation here preventing touchID.

But to suddenly think that there can only be FaceID or TouchID and not both? I don't understand why people think this way. if Apple can figure out to have both, we all win. So why do so many people jump immediately ot Apple's defense here and say "FACEID IS BETTER (without usign it), so TouchID is now garbage and so ancient!"

anyone who is currently attacking touchID in favour of FaceID is following Apple marketing hook line and sinker, since faceID isn't even in users hands yet.

I literally answered this in my post. TouchID is less secure. Coupling a less secure mechanism with a more secure mechanism doesn't make the whole system overall more secure. Or are you suggesting that the claim that FaceID is statistically more secure (if I recall 1,000,000 vs 50,000) is false?

If you mean the user experience, that's something different unrelated to security...which every sensible person on this thread has simply noted - wait till you try it.

And I finally pointed out that biometrics are included because its a convenience to most phone users, not because they are superior security measure in themselves. Then you and insinuate that I'm drinking Apple koolaid for pointing these issues out.

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you are too old .. go to senior houses .
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nah

soon we will plant a chip at birth under skin and no one will need any ID technology anymore.
So you mean the opening to The Simpsons with Maggie in the grocery store was really a prophecy? :eek:
 
Are people ever happy?
I want a headphone jack!!!
I don't want a headphone jack!!!!
I want touch ID!!!
I don't want touch ID!!
I don't want face recognition ID!!
I want face recognition ID!!

I personally want my iPod classic with a 1TB SSD that gets past the 30,000 song limit.

This is like my issues with my Daily Workplace.
I have been accused of unwilling to change. But that's not true whatsoever.
My problems are generally the changes are for the worse.
What was easy is not difficult.
What was quick, now takes longer.
Over all my years at my workplace, pretty much every change that has bee imposed upon me, has made things I do harder, slower, more difficult and frustrating.
And they you are accused to moaning about things.

I, and I'm sure everyone else is generally 100% behind a change that makes something better.
It's when something is made worse then we have a issue.
 
Some of you on here either don’t get it or are hard headed. Touch ID was and is not perfect. If your fingers are sweaty or wet, or if the phone itself is wet etc, Touch ID did not work. With Face ID, it’s going to work with your face no matter any of those scenarios. In some cases, some old people don’t even have finger prints (not a joke), but their faces will work as well. Face ID is the future.
 
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Some of you on here either don’t get it or are hard headed. Touch ID was and is not perfect. If your fingers are sweaty or wet, or if the phone itself is wet etc, Touch ID did not work. With Face ID, it’s going to work with your face no matter any of those scenarios. In some cases, some old people don’t even have finger prints (not a joke), but their faces will work as well. Face ID is the future.
Then why did they just add Touch ID to the MacBooks? Next gen they getting rid of it?
 
This is the next "3D TV", and hopefully deads soon.

TouchID forever!

If you become the CEO of Apple then you can make Touch iD forever, sadly your not and Touch ID will be killed off in the near future.
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I can see this being a thing on the rear camera for AR, but not the front camera. I'm not looking forward to down grading from my current fingerprint sensor to Face ID.

Use Face ID for a year then decide f it is downgrading. personally I think that FACE ID will be far FAR better than Touch ID.
 
- Apple announces the original iPhone and it’s doomed to fail for countless reasons (one being the lack of a physical keyboard). Now every single smartphone copies the basic design of the original iPhone.
- Apple announces TouchID and people say it’s a gimmick, and that Android Pattern Unlock is just as fast and doesn’t require an unreliable sensor (like the Atrix). Years later everyone has fingerprint sensors.
- Apple introduces the first 64bit processor and it’s a gimmick, since you need 4GB RAM for it to work properly. 2 years later everyone has a 64bit processor.

And within the last few months alone:

- A rumor circulates that TouchID is under the screen so Qualcomm puts together a demo of an unfinished tech to tell the world “look, we have this too”.
- FaceID rumor appears and Qualcomm releases another unfinished demo to also tell people they’re working on it.
- A rumor appears that Apple has a neural processor in the A11 and Huawei has to do a “pre-announcement announcement” of their Kirin 970 to let everyone know they also have a neural processor.

The smartphone world revolves around the iPhone.
 
I have nothing against Face ID as such in terms of how it works. It is more the fact that it basically requires "the notch", which results in a smaller phone footprint to useful screen size ratio, and that for me at least is a significant negative. Touch ID under the screen would enable all of the screen to be used.
 
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This is heading to the following.....

I want my headphone jack and I will keep my headphone jack
I want my optical drive and I will keep my optical drive
I want my flash player and I will keep my flash player
I want my floppy disc and I will keep my floppy disc

Yeah man....do whatever makes you happy

Kinda silly no?

iphone SE offers headphone jack and touchid. Sold by Apple.....to this day.....

Given Apple still sells products with headphones jacks, touchid , and they sell he SuperDrive ...... is it the consumer or apple that are confused?

Can't blame the consumer when Apple
Cannot get their story straight across its computer range.....

Imagine the same ports.....across idevices , laptops and desktop...... amazing user experience that seems to getting worse year by year from Apple. Seems only dongles unit all the products.....yup roll eyes
 
I have nothing against Face ID as such in terms of how it works. It is more the fact that it basically requires "the notch", which results in a smaller phone footprint to useful screen size ratio, and that for me at least is a significant negative. Touch ID under the screen would enable all of the screen to be used.

I agree with you on the notch and screen real estate, as I watch a lot of movies. But, in the times I looked at pics of the x, I lost track of the notch, not noticing it. Would have to have one in hand watching a movie to know for sure.
 
Be prepared to keep blowing off $1,000 every year or two for the Face ID embedded iPhone, or $100 or more per month on the carrier plan. It'll get worse when it comes to iPad which will cost even more. Never praise Apple for getting away with things they think is 'trendy'.

People like you give Apple the wrong impression that it's 'okay to get away with charging $1000 just for Face ID'.

And when they ditch Touch ID, you will wish they kept it. You're paying $1,000 for the exact same OS that's across all devices that were updated for FREE annually. The only difference are the cameras and Face ID. Wireless charging is nothing and ancient news with Qi technology. Nothing revolutionary but something that Apple should have done about 3 years ago.

They don't wait to get it right, they wait until the LAST MINUTE to get it out there. There's a pattern to it. Pay close attention.


You don’t pay a $1000 just for a face ID
The new screen OLED screen is also more costly, if I am not mistaken.

Also, it is a “special edition” phone, and may be the only one series produced, who knows.

The thing with new tech, is, that they usually need to update tools, processing units, ..., many things we may not even know of.

If they work on a new design for, let’s say, 2 years, those 2 years, all the teams, working on yet unreleased products, still need to get paid.

iOS and MacOS, WatchOS and TVOS are all free. The people working on those also need a salary, retail staff needs to be paid, 1000s of Apple staff needs to get paid. As iPhone is a main income for Apple, it is understandable they don’t sell cheap.

Samsung sells TVs, stereos, fridges, you name it, so does LG. Sony sell cameras, PS, games, music, ... Google sells people and ads as products, that is their main business.
All of those companies get their other income elsewhere, but Apple must mostly manage from iPhones and ITunes and App Store

I would also like to get iPhone X for $500 but it will just not happen.

All the companies work for profit. No profit leads to bankruptcy = no more products

I do not defend Apple pricing nor Apple, but this an economy-driven world for you.
 
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For the couple months the rumor is that Apple is been working really hard on in-display TouchID. They ended up acquiring a company that is working the same concept. People got excited this is something advance and never done before. Then here comes the bad news they are struggling of implementing the technology. It’s not gonna make to iPhone X there is not enough time, yet Qualcomm made an announcement they had the technology. Apple event came the in-display TouchID anticipation died down, Apple failed. Well majority of the people didn’t know they failed, because Apple didn’t say anything publicly about such technology. What they gonna do? Hype up whatever they got left saying this is the future despite some doubted about it. And here we are now they’re claiming this is the future of Apple. This this just a paid publicity knowing that if people finds out it could potentially hurt iPhone X sales. Obviously not, maybe next year in-display TouchID along FaceID will ended up implemented to 2ng gen iPhone X. Because this will be feature on every flagship Android phones. And that’s a cure for silly back fingerprint scanner especially that Galaxy phones that’s attached next to the camera.
 
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