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299 A6 non-retina Mini
399 A7 retina Touch ID Mini

This is the only choice Apple has, they can't sell the Retina at 329 and they need a cheaper tablet at the same time.
 
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I hope they introduce the iPhone 6 with its 4.8 inch screen. Why not? All the other companies introduce new products as soon as they are available. This once a year thingy with Apple is downright stupid.
 
Seriously. Exact same situation here. The iPad 3 went away with nary a whimper. At least my black iPhone 5 is unique in its color scheme -- the best one Apple has used so far. I'm going to be really sad if there isn't a black on black option for the iPad 5.

Sadly, rumors seem to point to space grey and silver (same as iPhone 5S options, minus the gold). Crossing my fingers too though!

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You should not be upset. You have a non-retina 2.6, so you get the nVidia GT650M discrete GPU - which will drive the non-retina display with ease. You can also upgrade the RAM and the SSD if you need to; for ~$700, you can go 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD (Samsung 840 EVO). Now that you've pulled the trigger, I would upgrade that machine and wait until Broadwell - which should have much improved processing power for the same battery life as Haswell. As icing on the cake, you can also pull the 1TB SSD before you sell the non-retina and put it in an external thunderbolt case...

I like the way you think.
 
Makes zero sense.
Makes perfect sense. With EVERYONE else offering HD/retina in their 7" offerings(Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD, heck even the nook HD+), having the mini without a retina option would be greeted with the most negative press/media since Steve's Folly - The $1800 Cube.
 
Makes zero sense.

What makes no sense? That the event is a bust w/o the mini getting Retinized? Or it doesnt make sense Apple would release anything sans retina? If it's the latter I agree. My eyes hurt going from my crystal clear retina iphone and macbook pro to my ipad mini.

I dont like carrying the full size ipad around although my 3rd gen is great for the kids.
 
This is the only choice Apple has, they can't sell the Retina at 329 and they need a cheaper tablet at the same time.
Why can't they sell an iPad mini with Retina Display for 329 and why do they need a cheaper tablet? We just learned that the "c" in iPhone 5c does not stand for cheap. If Apple does not need an iPhone under 549, they don't need anything cheap.

Up until now every time an iDevice went Retina the price remained the same. There is every possibility that it will be the same with the iPad mini. When Apple picked the price point for the first generation iPad mini they knew the 64-bit A7 was in the pipeline.
 
I don't really care about this even if your conspiracy theories are true.

The thing about the NSA collecting transaction data and emails and breaking into encryption didn't surprise me (reminds me of Digital Fortress too), but if they can pull off secretly taking every person's fingerprint (and if Apple agrees to risk losing a ton of customers for a bribe from the government), then I'll be impressed.

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And maybe cheaper ACDs. I know some people have also been complaining that they want a matte one.
I'm not talking about theories, I'm talking about history and facts. Haven't you been paying attention these last years? My postulation is based upon everything NSA and the military industry have done so far: First Apple is going to hook people on Touch ID for everything, and then a couple of years later NSA forces Apple to change their code and start collecting and sending those fingerprints to the NSA. To know the future, you must know the past.

You know the saying "First they came for strangers, then my neighbours and colleagues. Then they came for me, and there were no one left to help"? Paraphrased for brevity, but you get the point.
We're seeing a very disturbing development now with USA wanting to control everything concering the Internet and communcations, and at the same time corruption runs rampant in Washington. It doesn't take a genious to see where this is headed. Too bad most people are too occupied with fiddling their iGadgets, and posting on Facebook to see or care about what's going on...

Case in point about my so-called "theories" (btw. there are much worse examples out there than this, but that would be too much for people like you to handle): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojS4zGDc4JI
 
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The only thing I can't agree on is the chip. With their push for 64bit apps, it would make sense for htem to include the A7. I know they said 32 and 64bit apps can run in tandem but that would be Apple compromising.

I'm hoping you're wrong :D

I don't see it. With those (AMAZING!) specs.. I cannot imagine ppl plopping down $170 more for regular iPad.
I think we will continue to see (generation after generation) the bleeding edge in the new full size iPad & last year's tech in the mini.
 
I don't see it. With those (AMAZING!) specs.. I cannot imagine ppl plopping down $170 more for regular iPad.
I think we will continue to see (generation after generation) the bleeding edge in the new full size iPad & last year's tech in the mini.

Yeah but retina switches up the formula tbh.
 
An article in The Sun newspaper (UK) today stated Apple are geared up to reveal the new range of iPads etc on 15th Oct?!
 
Yeah but retina switches up the formula tbh.

No. Not with regards to procs.
iPad 3 had A5X, pushed retina fine, iPad 4 has A6X.. pushes retina fine. iPad 5 will likely have A7X & push retina fine.
Knowing Apple could VERY successfully utilize ANY of those chips in a retina mini, I think it is the silliest of wishful thinking that they would choose A7X.
 
The difference is the size. I have the full sized iPad but want something just a bit smaller but not with inferior specs. For me, it's like the MBP 13" or 15". It should have the same specs available in each, but for some people the smaller screen makes more sense for however they intend to use it.

THIS. Some of us just want a smaller screen. Why should be have to sacrifice specs? As far as I'm concerned they should all just be called "iPad" and be differentiated only by their size (7" and 10"). This will be even more logical now that the two sizes will have the same form factor. People talk about cannibalization. Does the 13" rMBP cannibalize 15" sales? If so, Apple still has both.
 
32gb has been JUST enough for my Mini.

I suppose if go forward it'll be the 64gb Mini (or 128gb if that's an option).

Otherwise staying the current-perfectly-fine Mini.
 
I know what you're saying, but I really hope they don't think to create arbitrary differentiations just for the sake of needing to have SKU levels. If they can pull of thin, retina, and battery life, people will pay for it. Value shoppers can buy the 1st gen mini.

I just hope they don't overthink the SKU levels and pander to lowest denominator purchasing urges. Just make good products and slap a fair price on it. It will never be perfect storybook product line.

I think the 5C experiment is good to bring up. They aren't selling as briskly as the 5S. I don't think Apple users are super motivated by a nominal price difference and devices that are designed to telegraph their SKU level. We typically save up to buy the best, or buy refurbs/prev gen/used. A hobbled new model doesn't jive well with that model.

Yeah I wonder how they're gonna position the Mini too. My guess is that it'll be different from 5s and 5c. For iPhone, it's clear that the 5c is the inferior version. By buying the 5c, the user is essentially saying "I can't afford the premium model." It takes away the cool factor.

Mini vs regular, OTOH, can be framed as different products. I can say "I bought the Mini cuz I don't want a big honking tablet." This is a justifiable choice that's not colored strictly by affordability.

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That's been my prediction as a differentiator: A6[X] variant in the Mini, A7[X] variant for the full size.

I don't believe in recent product lines, we've seen an iOS device skip a processor, if you consider the Mini a product in itself. For example:

iPhone, A4, A5, A6, A7

iPad (full size), A4, A5, A5X, A6X ... A7X?

iPad Mini, A5 ... ???

Great observation - never noticed it.

They shouldn't differentiate. Nor should the mini be cheaper. It's absurd that people think the mini should be cheaper. In technology, when two products have identical specs, the miniaturized one is the one that took more R&D to produce. Smaller tech is more advanced tech. The mini should cost more.

The only practical reason for the mini to be cheaper is if it's got inferior tech in some areas, like camera, CPU, fingerprint, retina, etc. If it's identical but smaller and cheaper, Apple is sacrificing profit margin.

Android tablets are cheaper through a combination of accepting lower profit margins and using lower quality (cheaper) parts.

I totally agree with you. From an engineering perspective, everything smaller should be more expensive. But that's not how everyday people think about tech.

I'll give you an example. I used to do photography. The bigger your camera, the more professional people think you are. An old bulky camera is way more impressive than a more advanced but compact unit.

Also, bigger tablets have bigger screens. This is the most visible area for the consumer and it costs more as the size increases. Ergo, Apple can charge more for a bigger iPad.
 
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