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This would be awesome. I really hate facial recognition. It's impressive technology but a pain the butt, especially during a pandemic when half of your face is covered by a mask. Fingerprints just work a lot better.
 
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Needs to have happened in the current current iPhone already - it should be expedited considering the masked future we're in.
 
There are so many reasons that it make sense to include that

Least of which where moister on the fingers
The solution on the iPad Air is cheaper, but not better.

In-display optical and ultrasonic fingerprint sensors have higher DPI. Not to mention much more ergonomic.

Unless it prevents a nosy GF who's sleeping over take your finger and TouchID into your phone and private life (passwords, bank accounts, notes etc) then it's NOT better. Don't care how many DPI's are there. If it cannot tell I'm NOT intending to unlock then its just the same old Touch ID.
 
What do you mean "people cannot use ApplePay for purchases if wearing masks?" Of course you can. You just need to enter your phone passcode.
Why you need to enter Passcode standing under security camera or someone looking over or leaning on your shoulders !
 
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How about just working on better batteries, lower PWM rates and better QC, Apple?!

All things in your power today and good for everyone.

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Also I'll take touch ID in the power button.
 
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Unless it prevents a nosy GF who's sleeping over take your finger and TouchID into your phone and private life (passwords, bank accounts, notes etc) then it's NOT better. Don't care how many DPI's are there. If it cannot tell I'm NOT intending to unlock then its just the same old Touch ID.
Do we really need to know where your gf puts your fingers when you're sleeping? ?
 
Why you need to enter Passcode standing under security camera or someone looking over or leaning on your shoulders !
There is one other way to use ApplePay, without any issue of having to use TouchID or FaceID - an Apple Watch. I have my series 5, and always forget I can pay this way. Would be helpful if Apple allowed Wallet to be a complication, not that it’s that hard to push the crown in and scroll down to Wallet...
 
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Oddly enough, My face ID on my 12 Pro Max has been unlocking even when I have a facemask on
It’ll unlock, for me, if I’m wearing a mask incorrectly and not covering my nose which wholly defeats the purpose of said mask. I just switched to using a 4 digit pin but it would be sweet if this years iPhone had both Touch ID and face id
 
Wouldn’t it be „cheaper“ for them to just implement what they already came up with for the iPad Air 4 on the iPhone? The button already got bigger!
Yeah I agree with this actually and think it would make the most sense. I would LOVE to have FaceID and TouchID (integrated in the side button).
 
I just posted this so not going to rewrite the entire bit, but Face ID can't scan your Irises and that wouldn't be Face ID of the eyes, it would be Iris scanning. iPhones don't have the hardware for Iris scanning, which is just a smidge more secure than Face ID.

Iris scanning is every bit as hard to fool as Face ID is. We're not talking about the first face recognition and Iris scanning tools from 10 years ago.

The embedded finger print readers are also harder to fool than the original kind.

There is a software component for cheat detection separate from the scanning mechanism. Apple's cheat detection algorithm is what makes or breaks Face ID, same with Iris scanning. Two companies could technically put the same hardware in their device and it not be nearly as secure.
Yeah, I was thinking more about data points, a mask covers half of the data points so to speak. But the depth of your eyes, how far the ridge / eye brows hang over. The ridge of your nose. The height of your forehead, etc are all still exposed. It's "Face ID" because it is your whole face. BUT, taking the top half of the data points together with the image of your finger could together be secure.
 
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I wonder what the user experience will be like with Face ID & Touch ID "competing" with one another for unlocking the device. For example, if I'm expecting my thumb to unlock the device but the Face ID sensors expectantly detect my face and unlocks the device, will there be an awkward exchange with my thumb then touching the unlocked device?
 
Simple answer = Yes.
Longer answer = who doesn't want better batteries across the range of iPhones? The low PWM rates effects users who are sensitive and I cannot imagine it's good for anyone's eyes/brain. Quality control is often lacking and has been for many years.

I’m not saying I don’t want a bigger battery but it never runs out since I got the 11.
Is quality control really lacking though? They sell millions of devices and I don’t think that many actually go back. Also I don’t know who your post was aimed at as Apple don’t read this.
 
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