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Crashes usually result from Applications and not the OS. I even survived a power outage by putting my mac to sleep for two days and it didn't drain the UPS.

And people still blame windows for third party related crashes. :rolleyes: go onto irc and you will find pcs with uptime of nearly a year or more as well
 
I like the customer care one. PC customer care is painful, AppleCare is nice. And "I'm a Megan" made me burst at the seems. Great ads from Apple.
SG :apple:
 

I've tried Windows 7 and found nothing special. I'm pretty sure MS employees are going around all the blogs and forums posting about how "Windows 7 is the best thing ever OMFGZ!". I tried it and didn't see anything worth shouting about. Same old Windows. And the d...umm taskbar is much worse than it used to be. They've just added more eye-candy to try to be like OS X. Unfortunately, the eye-candy isn't actually useful/helpful like it is in OS X, and it just means Windows XP/Vista users have to again learn where Microsoft moved everything to.

I have to disagree. I've used Windows 7 extensively, and it is an outstanding OS. It's far better than Vista, and I find myself drawn to it just as much as I am to OS X, which makes me very happy from a consumer and IT professional's standpoint. It's about time that we had two outstanding products from both Microsoft and Apple to give the people a real choice.
 
Incredibly stupid menu structure and the like?

Meh, most of my end users like the start button menu structure over going to the applications folder.

I just have the icons for the programs I need on the bar or on the desktop.

Not bashing, I am a Mac fan, but I think the access to applications needs some streamlining.
 
Meh, most of my end users like the start button menu structure over going to the applications folder.

I just have the icons for the programs I need on the bar or on the desktop.

Not bashing, I am a Mac fan, but I think the access to applications needs some streamlining.

I agree. I much prefer the Start Menu over going to the Applications folder.
 
So..... I move into a really nice, suburban neighborhood and let everyone into my house because I assume they're honest people. They must be. They live in the suburb - not in the ghetto or inner city.

My first month in, I realize, while there has been no "break-in," half my stuff is gone.

I conclude, much like eksodos, that the suburban neighborhood is just as bad as the ghetto and nobody should claim suburbs are safer.

Really. Just because you're in safer environment does not mean you give everyone rights to your stuff, both digitally and in the real world.

Added to my portfolio of sufficiently brilliant allegories.
 
Meh, most of my end users like the start button menu structure over going to the applications folder.

I just have the icons for the programs I need on the bar or on the desktop.

Not bashing, I am a Mac fan, but I think the access to applications needs some streamlining.

True, but adding the app folder to the dock solves that. Also, erm, having all five of the often needed apps down there probably solves it for most.

EDIT: I have also made the experience that most people I have that tell me that they prefer the start menu never considered changing their usage patterns. It's like the stubborn old man that does not want to hear about a new and modern sewage system when he's successfully **** in the woods for so many years.
 
I have to disagree. I've used Windows 7 extensively, and it is an outstanding OS. It's far better than Vista, and I find myself drawn to it just as much as I am to OS X, which makes me very happy from a consumer and IT professional's standpoint. It's about time that we had two outstanding products from both Microsoft and Apple to give the people a real choice.

Same was said about Vista by all the Windows enthusiasts just prior to release.

If MS finds a way to somehow not screw this up, yet again, unbeknownst to everyone, it'll be quite a surprise. If Windows 7 is good, it'll have taken them 8 years to roll out a decent OS. Not that XP was any good. Ugh.
 
These ads are simple and effective, and don't smack of desperation like the PC ads.

I have to disagree. My mom used to really like the ads, but now she just ignores them because its the same thing over and over again. They need to find a new way to say what they're saying.
 
What people tend to forget or fail to mention: Windows 7 *is* Vista. Look at the internal developing numbers. Windows 7, quite ironically, is Windows 6.1, Vista being 6.0... What do you make of that?

I don't see what difference it makes, whether Windows 7 is Vista or not. It's much, much better than Vista in so many ways. It sucks for the consumers that it took so long for them to get "Vista" right, but I'm just pleased that they finally did, in the form of Windows 7.
 
Same was said about Vista by all the Windows enthusiasts just prior to release.

They were wrong. I hated Vista's betas and RCs more than I can express with the written word. It was just horrid, and I knew immediately that it was not ready for public release. 7, on the other hand, has been so smooth, fast, and stable that I've been using it as my primary version of Windows, even in its beta form.
 
Nice comeback ad. I don't think it changes the minds of anyone who is frustrated with the lack of hardware choices from Apple (entry level quad core of $2500, glossy only option iMacs and Macbooks), but does again highlight the many advantages Apple does hold.
 
Wow, Apple hardware is so much better and their customer service is top notch as well!!! :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fErFSBoj3h4&fmt=18

At it again eh? How trite.

Posting a video on YouTube in which ONE person complains that their (plastic) white MacBook is cracked doesn't prove any thing. After watching her tirade, it seems more obvious that she damaged it herself and is looking for a free fix.

Regardless of how it happened, such incidents are not exclusive to Apple, plastic cracks, it happens. I've seen many Dell and HP cases with cracks and wear and tear from normal use. Lastly, she claims the laptop is fairly new. REALLY? As any one here may know, the white MacBook's are known for showing dirt around the palm rests. NO WAY could she have accumulated that much dirt in just a few shorts weeks (unless she is very unkempt).

I call b.s.
 
Like a lot of Mac users, I spend the majority of my time in bootcamp anyway running a Windows OS just so I can run the best software.
Mac Fail.

I switched to a mac 3yrs ago when Intel chips were first used. I was weary since I was exclusively a PC user. Going back to college for a comp sci degree I figured I'd give the mac a shot since it could run Windows anyway and I could slowly get adjusted to OS X. I had my bootcamp partitions for a while but them got rid of it all together. Since I'm in grad school now I do have some use for VM's and have an XP VM, but I rarely ever use the thing now since my Mac has all the software I need and works rather well. :)

I'm not a "Windows/Microsoft troll".

1. I own several Mac computers and love them.
*shares a cookie with you*
2. I do use bootcamp all the time. Office on the Mac is horrible, I use the Windows versions. I use Napster subscriptions and the Napster software doesn't run on the Mac platform.
Um, no. Office2004 was a touch slow but even on my 1.83GHz Macbook pro it ran in a usable state. Office2008 runs better on my Mac as it's a Universal binary and no longer using Rosetta. I can't attest to Napster as I have an iPhone so that wouldn't work anyway. :)
3. Mac OS is more beautiful than Windows in every previous release. Windows 7 has closed the gap dramatically in the cosmetics department. I like both now.
Yeah?
4. Zune is a joke. I would never use one and neither their marketplace.
This I can agree on. :)
5. I switched to Mac after using Vista for a week. It's the worst OS I have used since Windows ME forced me to migrate to Windows 2000.
Yeah again.
6. I do like Windows 7 and I think it's a very good operating system. But as I said, we can only judge it when the final version is released.
Very true.

Those are the facts.
*citation needed*

Is it not possible to like both platforms? Funnily enough when I post on Paul's winsupersite I get accused of being a Mac troll.
Sure it's possible, but having correct facts with supporting documentation to back up your arguments would help greatly. :)
 
Please read what I wrote before commenting. :) I said MOST ORDINARY COMPUTER USERS should be using security products as a line of defense to protect them from their lacking knowledge or experience...

I read what you wrote. Your anxiety places the opposite in question. I don't allow my children to drive my car unless I know they've learned how to drive. By the same token, should folks be messing around with YOUR computer if they don't have a clue about security? When 15 year-old nephew Enus comes over to check his email on his uncle's PC, should the uncle rely on the anti-virus to keep the machine secure? I'm suggesting we need to rely less on security software and more on education and supervision no matter what platform OS we are using.

...Security experts are not ordinary computer users. They know what they are doing. They can probably configure a firewalled router. They probably block javascript by default on a lot of sites. They probably don't surf random webpages using an unpatched version of IE. So yes these people can usually get by without Norton or Kaspersky. :)...

Not JUST those people, sir. The interesting thing is, you don't necessarily need to be a security expert to be relatively secure on your computer. I refer to experts not to illustrate their full geek capabilities, or to aspire to possess the same, but rather to show it is very possible and easy for ordinary folks to be safe without relying on security software. AV & AS programs won’t catch everything, and if you are safely computing, my theory is - they won’t have to.

1. Don’t open or launch email attachments
2. Don’t click links in email
3. Don’t download files from places you aren’t absolutely sure are safe
4. Update your Operating System regularly
5. Use a firewall (hardware only - a wireless router works nicely)
6. Don't run as Administrator for the day to day computing

Pretty simply concepts - and none involved a $50+ subscription to software and updates. AV & AS software reminds me of seat belts in cars. They might save your life in an accident, but then again, they might not and your car will probably still be totaled regardless. :cool:

...I agree a lot of these programs are bloated and do slow the computer down. But that's by design as they are sitting there in the background monitoring what you do looking for stupid things computer users might do, scanning open files, internet activity and emails as they arrive.

No security program is 100 percent effective at identifying and preventing those stupid things computer users might do. The absence of any awareness of security makes that risk even greater. In my view, once the security software has identified an infection, the Windows machine is already compromised - likely beyond repair.

None of the products on the market can assure me any infection has been removed 100% - so the only way to be sure the system is clean is to start over and reformat (not a bad idea to do regularly anyway). Given this assumption, I'd rather the software chosen for background monitoring was not bloated "by design", was as robust and lightweight as possible, and was not laden with unnecessary features that bog down performance. Norton is notorious for its bloat and problems it causes for Windows users even without malware present. Instead of Symantec products, I'd personally rather be running AVG Free or other low resource proggies like ESET's NOD32 on my Windows machines.

I would rather listen to one of Ballmer's seminars than put Norton on any of my Macs! :eek:
 
Only one word describes these ads and that is smug. These ads have more chance turning me off Apple.

Of course they're smug. They make a confident statement. Apple has the balls to come right out and trash the competition. And so they should. Apple is fully aware of what they have given the consumer, and customer satsifaction ratings year after year, study after study, survey after survey, bear all this out.
 
Fixed it for you

are you kidding my girlfriend has an HP laptop .. EXPENSIVE one too it cost with the extended warrenty like 1500.. and its the crapiest thing i have ever used it FREEZES all the time.. it crashes constantly she has had to send it away which took 2 weeks and still having MAJOR problems with it. had to order a new charger which took over a week. she pretty much doesnt even use it anymore cause its so fustrating .. she had a big virus on it and had to completely restore it.. and she STILL has problems .. i am on a white macbook i bought a year ago and ABSOLUTLY no problems. and if their is APPLE store is always their to help.. you get to talk to an actual person who can help/fix/replace anything apple you have... oh yeah this computer had a glass of wine spilled on it by my grandfather.. and after a week of drying out it works just as good as it did the day i bought it. go pour a glass of wine on your SH!!TY PC.. you guys know what PC stands for Piece of Crap
 
Games? Sorry, not my department. If it were, I'd get a console.

But the original argument was the platform exclusives of the 'best' software. So, in this case, I do think that some of the best games exist only on Windows (and some do not appear on consoles). But maybe that's another debate for another day.

Also, there's vvvv which is Windows only and completely destroys Max/MSP in the visual department.

Still, I am an Apple man.
 
They had a virus issue last year, remember apple had to pull the story and say it was old news>!?!?!

There are viruses out there, just not large enough to notice.

NEWS FLASH: Midget Mac viruses have been spotted on the rampage!!!!
They're pesky little buggers. So small in fact, that you won't even notice you have them. They're so sneaky that no one is really sure what to tell you to look for to know that you're even looking at one or what its name is. But we assure you, Midget Mac viruses are real, and they are dangerous, and they will be the vain of your existence. The only solution to purge or avoid this dreadful disease is to...well...uh....BUY A PC!!!!!
 
go pour a glass of wine on your SH!!TY PC.. you guys know what PC stands for Piece of Crap

This may come as a shock to you - but a Mac is a PC. You got lucky with that wine, it poses an equal risk to Macs as it does to Windows machines. Also, your girlfriend should be more careful with what sites she visits, judging by the context of your message I imagine you and her frequent myspace a lot.
 
"I'm a Megan"

hee hee - gotta love that little dig at Redmond.

"I'm not a number, I'm a free man" - The Prisoner
 
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