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Apple's October 19th Media Event

matticus008 said:
But the 14" is ridiculously huge. People would rather have the 12" iBook, hands down. (Not that it's bad to have the 14" for people that like big, easy to read screens.)
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true...12 sells so much better than 14 in my experience at a campus store. Unless they're broke and need superdrive, they go with the 12. plus the novelty of those is the size. I loved my old one. for a while :rolleyes:
 
Peace said:
I never said Apple was showing any iBook tomorrow ;)
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Apple wouldn't do ibooks & powerbooks at the same time because they would compete with eachother. (notice the several week time difference between the iPod Nano and the Video iPod). If anything, Apple will release Powerbooks because the iBook has been updated more recently, and the Powerbooks are falling more behind when compared to PC's in the same price range. Besides, at the moment the iBook and Powerbook are too similar.
 
aswitcher said:
Well I think if they drop the 12" PB its to make way for something between the iBook and Powerbook
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It would be fun if the 12" is replaced by something UNlike any current PB or iBook. Maybe a tablet, maybe an ultra-portable with smaller keys... something different.

Would be the product for me? Who knows. But it would be a fun change :)


cjewby said:
PM - BlueRay disc player/burner - First on the market ...thatd be sweet.
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I think it's too soon... BUT, I seem to recall that Apple was the first to include Superdrives (or was it merely DVD burners?) in their computers. The old Smurf Towers. AND I seem to recall that these PowerMac G3s cost LESS for the whole machine than the known price of the drive alone, had you bought a bare drive the day before.
 
silverpeach said:
Tomorrow Apple will be releasing Apple Photo Pro. A shot of the box was already posted a while ago on MacRumors. It will be like iPhoto on steroids rather than a Photoshop competitor for now.

As you can tell with the iPod lineup, Apple wants sets of 2. Two nanos, two ipods. They are stream lining the lineup.

Thus there will be no more 12 in Power Book most likely. Also there will only be 2 Power Mac options available.

The 17 in Powerbook will feature an iSight built in and a higher screen resolution.

The track pad will still be one button, but will be touch sensative for 2 click capabilities.
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This all sounds plausible, especially the button comment. (I was going to mention it myself.) This does 2 things: First, as someone else mentioned, it gives potential switchers one less reason not to switch. And, it gives 2-button functionality without actually having 2 buttons. Steve saves face and likely doesn't have to pay up on a bet he probably made to someone years ago. (I'm assuming he's said in the past, "We'll never offer a 2-button mouse.")

Squire
 
nagromme said:
It would be fun if the 12" is replaced by something UNlike any current PB or iBook. Maybe a tablet, maybe an ultra-portable with smaller keys... something different.

Would be the product for me? Who knows. But it would be a fun change :)



I think it's too soon... BUT, I seem to recall that Apple was the first to include Superdrives (or was it merely DVD burners?) in their computers. The old Smurf Towers. AND I seem to recall that these PowerMac G3s cost LESS for the whole machine than the known price of the drive alone, had you bought a bare drive the day before.
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I know they were the first to include 3.5" floppy, and then later CD ROM as a standard features. As for the DVD, I think they were the first to make it easily affordable, not sure if they were the first for a Combo/Superdrive.
PS - DVD burners and Superdrives are the same thing.
 
If Apple released a tablet with a decent amount of storage (~40GB) and a nice, widescreen display of about 11" diagonal and an inch thick or less, I'd be all over it.

It would have to have bluetooth and Airport, use a PowerBook or iBook battery, and include a consumer IR transmitter, TV out, and Front Row. The iMac/iPod remote could even be optional, and I'd still go for it. A tablet that could act as a smaller, less obvious iMac in the living room while being portable and relative full-featured as a computer would seriously make my day.
 
Squire said:
This all sounds plausible, especially the button comment. (I was going to mention it myself.) This does 2 things: First, as someone else mentioned, it gives potential switchers one less reason not to switch. And, it gives 2-button functionality without actually having 2 buttons. Steve saves face and likely doesn't have to pay up on a bet he probably made to someone years ago. (I'm assuming he's said in the past, "We'll never offer a 2-button mouse.")

Squire
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I still can't see Apple dropping eht 12", it leaves too large or a price gap (unless of course they drop the 15" price).
As for the 1 button, but touch sensitive (2 button) mouse work? I can't figure it out. :confused:

PS - that was me that mentioned it would be one less excuse for windows users (along with hundreds of others of people.)
Originally posted by Me
I wouldn't be surprised if they had two buttons on the new notebooks, it only would makes sense considering the new Mighty Mouse, Apple is getting into the two button market because that's what Windows users are used to - one less excuse for them not to switch.
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Superdrive said:
I think with the end of the 12" PB updates coming, we'll eventually see the portable lines combine into one. Since Apple likes the twos lately, you'll see 13, 15, and 17 inch notebooks coming in high and low configurations. It may not happen tomorrow, but down the line, I could see it go down.
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um, no.

On both counts.

the 12 inch powerbook is not going away, not at all. Clearly, the 15 inch gets you a better laptop-more power, runs cooler, bigger screen, etc. But the 12 inch gives portability, and that is why people who buy the 12 buy it-it's the maximum in portability with a full fledged computer. Hear of the booming ultra portable market? people want portability, and 12 inches is as far as apple is willing to go on that. It's the minimum size they can make a computer with a full size keyboard, and that is exactly why it is 12 inches.

Second, why on EARTH would apple reduce it's portables to one line? notebooks now make up more than half of apple's sales, and I believe the world's, and sales keep on growing. Powerbooks and Ibooks sell well. Some people want the high end, some low, you can't get rid of that, don't shrink the lines. Apple doesn't like big numbers, for sure-dropped the ebook, but they really don't like one. The formula is, give the customers decisions between two or three things, then 2 or three more, as deep as you need to go, so at any point, it's not overwhealming. So, laptop, or desktop? Desktop? OK, then low, mid, or high? OK, mid. What size screen and speed on your imac, then? great, can I get you an ipod to go with?

But apple, no company, would ever reduce themselves to one line in a major, major portion of the market, when both lines sell well.

not to mention, they've held them apart even as the lack of processor advances have made it impossible to have a range of power. But soon comes intel, and we can have powerbook be power and ibook be budget again, why whould they stop that?
 
EricNau said:
I know they were the first to include 3.5" floppy, and then later CD ROM as a standard features. As for the DVD, I think they were the first to make it easily affordable, not sure if they were the first for a Combo/Superdrive.
PS - DVD burners and Superdrives are the same thing.
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they were the first to put a DVD burner in a laptop, I know that one.
 
dontmatter said:
um, no.

On both counts.

the 12 inch powerbook is not going away, not at all. Clearly, the 15 inch gets you a better laptop-more power, runs cooler, bigger screen, etc. But the 12 inch gives portability, and that is why people who buy the 12 buy it-it's the maximum in portability with a full fledged computer. Hear of the booming ultra portable market? people want portability, and 12 inches is as far as apple is willing to go on that. It's the minimum size they can make a computer with a full size keyboard, and that is exactly why it is 12 inches.

Second, why on EARTH would apple reduce it's portables to one line? notebooks now make up more than half of apple's sales, and I believe the world's, and sales keep on growing. Powerbooks and Ibooks sell well. Some people want the high end, some low, you can't get rid of that, don't shrink the lines. Apple doesn't like big numbers, for sure-dropped the ebook, but they really don't like one. The formula is, give the customers decisions between two or three things, then 2 or three more, as deep as you need to go, so at any point, it's not overwhealming. So, laptop, or desktop? Desktop? OK, then low, mid, or high? OK, mid. What size screen and speed on your imac, then? great, can I get you an ipod to go with?

But apple, no company, would ever reduce themselves to one line in a major, major portion of the market, when both lines sell well.

not to mention, they've held them apart even as the lack of processor advances have made it impossible to have a range of power. But soon comes intel, and we can have powerbook be power and ibook be budget again, why whould they stop that?
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Because the 12" is destined to come out in the very near future with a new design sporting the Intel chip?
 
Stridder44 said:
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IT MUST B TRU!! I READ IT ON TEH INTERNETZ!!!!1!11!!one
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A 50'' PB would be about as tall as me. (Not sure about PB dimensions, so not sure if the horizontal length of the PB would be greater than 67'' assuming a 50'' diagonal screen...)
 
EricNau said:
I still can't see Apple dropping eht 12", it leaves too large or a price gap (unless of course they drop the 15" price).
As for the 1 button, but touch sensitive (2 button) mouse work? I can't figure it out. :confused:
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I use this functionality all the time with a program called iScroll. Even though I have only one button, if I put two fingers on the trackpad and click, then it works like a right click. It's great, and everytime I go into the Apple store to play with their laptops, it amazes me that Apple haven't implemented it themselves yet. I'm not even sure if iScroll works on the (until tomorrow) latest line of PBs.
 
EricNau said:
I know they were the first to include 3.5" floppy, and then later CD ROM as a standard features. As for the DVD, I think they were the first to make it easily affordable, not sure if they were the first for a Combo/Superdrive.
PS - DVD burners and Superdrives are the same thing.
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By DVD burner I meant one that could NOT burn regular CDs, only DVDs. I don't recall if such a thing came before Superdrives or not.

Whichever it was, Apple didn't offer the FIRST--the drives could be bought--but I know they were the first to build them right into the computer as standard. Prior to that they were a hyper-expensive part that nobody really had.
 
boxandrew said:
I use this functionality all the time with a program called iScroll. Even though I have only one button, if I put two fingers on the trackpad and click, then it works like a right click. It's great, and everytime I go into the Apple store to play with their laptops, it amazes me that Apple haven't implemented it themselves yet. I'm not even sure if iScroll works on the (until tomorrow) latest line of PBs.
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Sounds pretty cool. Does that get in the way of the scrolling (like if you drag 2 figures down the trackpad your page will scroll down?)
 
nagromme said:
By DVD burner I meant one that could NOT burn regular CDs, only DVDs. I don't recall if such a thing came before Superdrives or not.
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I don't recall such a device ever existing. I believe every consumer-level device always burned CDs as well as DVDs.
 
nagromme said:
By DVD burner I meant one that could NOT burn regular CDs, only DVDs. I don't recall if such a thing came before Superdrives or not.
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I don't think so...But I could be wrong.
For the longest time I didn't think you could get a DVD ROM w/o a CD burner, until a friend gave me a computer that had one! :eek:
 
Mr Maui said:
Actually, I believe Apple (Reserve #338) is THE biggest booth at the show. Means one of two things ... lots of new stuff ... or Steve just like to LOOK big to keep people guessing and he is willing to spend a bit of Apple's $6 Billion in cash to do it. ;)
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According the most recent finances it's nearing 9 billion in Cash. How much ya think photoshop would sell for ;)
 
spade said:
Since we're on speculation rage, I'll go off the deep end and proclaim the return of the Newton, better mind you. Yeah! Why not? :cool:
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Would be cool - but I think that thing is gone for good :(
Maybe a tablet type thing though? They could call it the "Galileo." ha ha
 
Okay, so here's how it's been going for me:

ROKR/nano event: class
iMac/Video iPod event: job interview
Powerbook/Powermac/Photo Pro event: First day of work.

Oh well, tomorrow could be a great day. Work could be good, these products could rock, Astros might win, and something special from Chicago could go to D.C.

Here's hoping things start great with a nice healthy dose of Apple. :D
 
cgc said:
Microsoft has released some photo editing software that is pretty robust and competes with Photoshop Elements but I doubt Adobe cares. Same goes for Apple. There is no way Apple can compete with Photoshop CS. Not yet, not for several iterations of software releases.
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That's Digital Image Suite.
Apple should do a Works Suite/iLife style bundle for businesses - with iWork, PhotoPro.
 
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