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And your point is, what exactly? The reality is that they are here now, know only of America, and are functioning members of society. I realize that acting in a rationale, and pragmatic manner is beyond the scope of today's political climate, but the reasonable thing to do is grant these people a path to citizenship.
That illegal immigration IS part of this conversation. There are no “dreamers” without illegal immigrant parents. Period. Why should dreamer children enjoy benefits in states like California, that my kids don’t qualify for? Like College education paid for. The left is out of control. Absolutely gone. The right is not much better for different reasons.
 
The point is, your argument has more holes than a sponge.

You're surely smart enough the realize the people we're talking about, DACA status people, were brought here as children. It's not like they had any say in the matter. They knowingly committed no crime. And since they were minors, they legally committed no crime, either. Your argument has no merit.
 
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Why don’t you provide us with such information?
A lot. About $14,000.00 per household. https://amac.us/illegal-immigration-cost-1/

How many millions of illegals are there in this country? Point is, illegal immigration has had a tremendous cost as far as dollars and displaced American jobs.

Look, perhaps you want them all in your country sucking off Canada’s teat? Then you can wait even longer for a broken leg to be set or a coronary bypass or treatment for the flu, or whatever. In fact, I’d happilly pay to fund a pipeway right up the middle of the US into Canada so the illegals can enjoy all the maple syrup, social services and long doctor wait times they want.
 
I am proud of macrumors. A year ago, hot political topics like these would be just an overload of left leaning misguided comments for pages and pages. A year later, rational, self reflective, deep thinking Patriots are now a good 50% of the comments if not more. It shows the tide is turning to this skewed nonsense the left believes. And considering you cannot get "woke" to a blue pill, all you'll see is it happening more and more.

Tim Cook is making very bad decisions. Virtue Signaling like this is high up there on that list.
 
LEGAL immigrant. Conservatives have no problem with LEGAL immigration. Get in line like the rest of them. And Jesus Christ, liberals are some of the most racist people I know.

Funny how you get so upset over what was clearly a joke about Trumps marrying habits.
 
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Cheap labor is always desirable.

And it's fun for the controllers to bash the law-abiding while causing chaos through the lawless. ***** and giggles for the 1% of the 1%.
Tim: Dear Mr Trump, if you kick all those dreamers out, we'll have to hire Americans, and then we'll have to raise our prices even higher to keep our modest profits afloat.

Please have a heart.

PS: If you would rule favorably on this, !0% discount on Apple goodies for the next two years for you and your struggling and deserving family. PPS: immediate family only, please.
 
I disagree with racists, bigots, homophobes and the like. So sorry that offends you.

And keep up with the liberal stereotypes. Speaks volumes about your true character.

Your comment is hilarious, because you responded with a liberal stereotype then went into projection mode and said don't do that to me, and didn't even realize it. It's why you are what you are.

It is your character that needs searching, and when you find out the true reflection it will be a hard pill to swallow.
 
Of course they support them - thats because they dont actually have to "support" them aka free stuff since Tim and the rich posse arent affected by draconian taxes that have to pay for these people and their free ride. Gimme a break. :rolleyes:

Free ride you are kidding. These folks work, create jobs, build businesses, get educated, are what makes America Great. Now let’s compare them to the tens of millions of Natural Born Americans on Welfare, Drugs, Fail to even complete basic education, will not work even when offered a job, and their only value to America is having a birth certificate. Not possible with our Constitution but, if we had any kind of value based citizenship requirements these folks would be hands down at the front of the line. The other tens of millions would not make even the lowest level cut. Want to fix something, their are tens of millions in desperate need of fixing and then grant these folks what they have earned.
 
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LEGAL immigrant. Conservatives have no problem with LEGAL immigration.

LOL...then why does Trump want to cut legal immigration by 50%? Why aren't conservatives willing to do the Dream Act? That would be a legal action. Why do conservatives oppose paths to citizenship for people already in the country? That would require following a law. Why do conservatives want to get rid of birth-based citizenship enshrined in the 14th amendment? That's legal too.
 
Dear Tim - Please keep yourself occupied with things outside your company. Only way to make sure you won't ruin the mini and Mac Pro.



Also please please make sure that Mr Ive is fully occupied with designing the shipping box for the next AppleTV, only way to make sure he won't ruin anything important.

Yeah about those boxes... they just can not be good for the environment.
 
America cannot INCENTIVIZE parents to illegally come here KNOWING that their children will get a pass.

We’ve been compassionate for far too long.

Go home and take your kids. If you were a kid when your parents brought you here ILLEGALLY and are now an adult .... you go too. Cry on someone else’s shoulder ... I’m tired of this bulls&$@.
 
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LEGAL immigrant. Conservatives have no problem with LEGAL immigration. Get in line like the rest of them. And Jesus Christ, liberals are some of the most racist people I know.
It's interesting how questioning a Conservatives' hatred of anyone who isn't "white" means you're an intolerant leftist racist. This is why their Trump sponsored Nazi movement has so much traction.
 
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That illegal immigration IS part of this conversation. There are no “dreamers” without illegal immigrant parents. Period. Why should dreamer children enjoy benefits in states like California, that my kids don’t qualify for? Like College education paid for. The left is out of control. Absolutely gone. The right is not much better for different reasons.

Again, what’s your rational and pragmatic solution?

I know that “states rights” is just a catch phrase, kind of like “the wall, virtue signaling, chain migration” and other fun phrases, but some states have exercised their rights and elected to treat DACA designees as the actual residents they are, along with the benefits therein. That rarely means free tuition.

Should your children wish to attend college in California and pay in-state tuition you could, like, move.
 
America cannot INCENTIVIZE parents to illegally come here KNOWING that their children will get a pass.

So what's your suggestion for incentivizing them to do it legally? Or do you oppose that as well? Trump certainly does. You don't say you're cutting legal immigration by 50% because you're obsessed with legality. You do it because you just don't want immigrants coming into the country, period.
 
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Why would one get in line and try to come live in the US legally if you can sneak in and after some time some political sluts and hacks will weasel you into a legal citizen anyway? WHY? You either have rules or you don't. You either have a country or you don't.
 
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And your point is, what exactly? The reality is that they are here now, know only of America, and are functioning members of society. I realize that acting in a rationale, and pragmatic manner is beyond the scope of today's political climate, but the reasonable thing to do is grant these people a path to citizenship.
That illegal immigration IS part of this conversation. There are no “dreamers” without illegal immigrant parents. Period. Why should dreamer children enjoy benefits in states like California, that my kids don’t qualify for? Like College education paid for. The left is out of control. Absolutely gone. The right is not much better for different reasons.
 
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