Yup, that's why I am to hire non-white and women freelancers when I can. The industry I work in is predominantly white male so I'm just trying to do my part, but the problem itself is much much bigger. All we can do is our best.
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Apple's Workforce is Slightly More Diverse This Year
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3 people of the same colour and gender.
Diverse.
That seems about right.
Ahhhh. imagine the flak and the wording if 3 white guys and appeared in that pic.
Ain't the SJW fight grand...
Diverse.
That seems about right.
Ahhhh. imagine the flak and the wording if 3 white guys and appeared in that pic.
Ain't the SJW fight grand...
You are contributing to lowering standards, in that case. You should be hiring on merit alone, not enforcing quotas for race or sex reasons.
When the NBA is 60% white come back to me.
Some folks are just not interested in certain things or as talented in certain areas.
It's called life
Some folks are just not interested in certain things or as talented in certain areas.
It's called life
Yeah, but they're the right kind of non-diversity, so it's okay.
Diversity is shorthand for non-white male.
I know there have been societies where women dominate. Women can care for the children while still being dominant. I also didn't that today's women are more suitable for it. Due to the difference in bodies, it makes more sense for them to do it in nature (usually also the case among mammals, but birds are very different). Today, the difference doesn't matter, but women might feel more compelled to raise the children for natural reasons.
In third world countries, there is definitely a societal expectation for them to do that. Not so much here. It's common for women to work, and besides, something like half the families in the US are broken.
You don't have to divulge your industry, but I'm curious as to what you see as the barriers to entry. Does it start with deficiencies in the educational system, or influences from pop culture?
So far as I have experienced in the workplace firsthand, white and black men were very welcoming, very encouraging and eager to be mentors to women and minorities (in a non-creepy way). That's not to say I never ran into sexual harassment or bigotry. Oh I did! But I also ran into many white men who wanted to make a difference and open up their fields to minorities and women.
Where I am finding a real insidious influence is in pop culture, media and marketing of toys, books, entertainment to children. This is where I find girls are being influenced to put a priority on fashion and appearance above an interest in science and math and other interests that would lead them to careers in fields traditionally dominated by white males.
At any rate, kudos to you for your efforts. I hope you're able to make the difference you seek to make.
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It's not so much that he's trying to enforce quotas. But if he can open up opportunities and get more women or minorities into the field, it can help in the future for a more natural progression into this field (whatever it is) for the people who have an interest in it but may think they would encounter barriers to entry if they try to go for it.
It is a difficult thing to strike the balance for our society that we seek, without leaving out people unfairly.
Wow ok. I thought I was talking to someone living on earth in the 21st century. Nevermind.
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While I still dispute that this is true, in arguendo, even if it is true, it doesn't explain why colleges do a poor job recruiting female high-school graduates to engineering programs, why colleges do a poor job of ensuring the few women in those engineering programs are successful, and why big corporations do a poor job of allowing women to be employees on the terms that they want (family etc.). As you say, we live in a male-centered society, and that is bad. We are missing out on lots of productivity, lots of inventions, lots of wealth, just by designing out society in such a way that favors men and disparages women, and by changing that paradigm too slowly.
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At the Apple Stores near me, all the sales guys have beards and tattoos, and the women have tattoos and are heavily pierced - very trendy/hipster.
Not very diverse if you ask me...
Not very diverse if you ask me...
Apple has released updated diversity numbers that reveal its overall workforce, including tech, non-tech, and retail jobs, is 68% male and 32% female as of June 2016, a slight change from a 69%-31% split in 2015.
Apple profiled some of these employees, including Divya, Ryan, Adrienne, Aurelio, Edith, Riad, Charissa, and Kully, and shared a Creating Opportunities page highlighting its diversity programs and partnerships.
Denise Young Smith, Vice President of Worldwide Human Resources at Apple:Apple's race and ethnicity breakdown among U.S. employees is 19% Asian, 9% Black, 12% Hispanic, 2% Multiracial, 1% Other, and 56% White, representing a 2 percent increase in White employees and a 1 percent increase in both Asian and Hispanic employees compared to last year's data.
Females represent 37% of Apple's global new hires, while U.S. underrepresented minorities represent 27% of global new hires. Apple defines underrepresented minorities as "groups whose representation in tech has been historically low -- Black, Hispanic, Native American, Native Hawaiian, and Other Pacific Islander."
Apple said that it has achieved pay equity in the United States for similar roles and performance as of August 2016. The company said female employees earn one dollar for every dollar male employees earn, while underrepresented minorities earn one dollar for every dollar white employees earn.Apple has shared its recently filed Federal Employer Information Report EEO-1 [PDF], representing employees as of August 2015.
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When you start to hire based on a mandate from a government, you tend to get what you hire. Not the best for that position. Skills should be first, not what sex you are or the color of your skin.
$Hillary said her cabinet will be 50% women.
Yes, that's right, a quota for the White House. Pathetic
Yes, that's right, a quota for the White House. Pathetic
I've said it before and I'll say it again, diversity should only be sought after in qualified candidates. I'm very much aware of my white privilege and will rarely experience exclusion because of my skin color, however, this is one of those rare situations. It isn't fair to me that Apple pass me over for a position that I am more qualified for than my non-white counterpart, only for them to get it anyway just because it'll help Apple's diversity quota.
I am a feminist (as everyone should be in this day and age I mean Jesus Christ) and fighter for the Black Lives Matter movement along with just about every other movement that fights for underrepresented groups, but this kind of bothers me. Equality isn't equality if you're just seeking to knock the pedestal out from under the group on which it stands so you can do the same thing but in reverse.
I am a feminist (as everyone should be in this day and age I mean Jesus Christ) and fighter for the Black Lives Matter movement along with just about every other movement that fights for underrepresented groups, but this kind of bothers me. Equality isn't equality if you're just seeking to knock the pedestal out from under the group on which it stands so you can do the same thing but in reverse.
A person should be hired no matter what their gender, race, sexuality, ethnicity, hair, etc. The fact that it was a problem at Apple in the first place is worrying.
Maybe the reason minorities are a smaller number of the work force may be because they are in smaller numbers within the population (or not). Sometimes there is a general trend, such as in gender. They seem to be against discrimination, yet they are pushing efforts to hire minorities over others.
Having said that, it's a really good thing and I think they should continue those efforts but not discriminate against others for the sake of good diversity figures (although they're probably not doing that anyway).
Maybe the reason minorities are a smaller number of the work force may be because they are in smaller numbers within the population (or not). Sometimes there is a general trend, such as in gender. They seem to be against discrimination, yet they are pushing efforts to hire minorities over others.
Having said that, it's a really good thing and I think they should continue those efforts but not discriminate against others for the sake of good diversity figures (although they're probably not doing that anyway).
I do like diversity and I'm a minority. But with the recent trend among companies and universities, they are hiring based mostly on their race now instead of qualification. Obviously Apple numbers is just mainly for paper or publicity like the recent WWDC. These recent hirings are mostly on retail and that's the quickest way to make everything looks good on paper. Cook really knows what he's doing and he knows how to get the attention from media.
I want to see the stats on eye color. Are green eyes represented? Are red-heads represented proportionally? Are #bernie supporters represented? #Trump supporters? What about age representation?
Or are they talking about something racist like skin color?
Or are they talking about something racist like skin color?
As a conservative Christian I have to say.... Wut? Are you high? The reason for male dominance in society is men thinking God made them dominant over women. In fact the bible instructs FATHERS to raise their offsprings. Not mom. Man relegated that to women. Eve was created as Adam's equal. Not his lesser.
I can't see Apple purposefully hiring anyone who isn't qualified. Apple looks for the best. Sure Apple will make a bad hire every now and then, every large company does. But I can't see them thinking "this person doesn't seem a good fit, but they'll boost our diversity quota, so let's hire them!" If that were true, no white male could get a job at Apple, and we know that isn't true.
But also consider that diversity could be a qualification in some instances. If you want to boost your popularity among an asian audience, it my be beneficial to hire an asian marketer over a white marketer, due to the applicant's life experiences.
Do you always ignore the larger picture, or only when you're trying to make a stupid point?
The statistics for Apple's work force are right there in the article. That picture does not represent it, nor is it meant to. The picture is meant to symbolize some progress in diversity.
I can't tell if this is a joke.
Service staff are largely non-white in many places because those are low paying jobs, and minorities (in the US at least) are still very much living with the consequences of history, and often tend to be part of a lower socio-economic class.
Gender, skin color, and orientation are so passé. I want Apple to make sure they are diverse with regards to favorite restaurants, music genres, political affiliation (do we have the "right" percentage of Hilary and Trump supporters, Stein and Johnson supporters), favorite literature genres, Marvel vs DC (and within DC a representative portion of Superman vs Batman), Godzilla vs Kong Kong. Why are we stuck in this retrograde 1960s diversity. Apple - bring yourself to the future and innovate in the diversity metrics.
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Dang did not see you post before I posted mostly same thing. Sadly, I still wait for a day when we look at the content of someone's character for diversity instead of something basic like skin color. What about height? Another option.
Lmfao because ignoring a problem is known to fix it
Exactly. Having people from as many different backgrounds and with as many different perspectives as possible means seeing a problem from more angles and makes finding solutions more likely. It's better for everyone.
Exactly. The irony is that that quote is only seen as noteworthy because the person saying it is perceived as (read: is) a black man. The idea that skin color has no effect on social relations because someone with a darker skin tone said so is hilarious.
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