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I can confirm this, per the conversation I had with an AT&T rep yesterday. she read me something off her notes to the effect of, "FAN discounts cannot be applied to this promotion."
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I can confirm when I spoke to a rep over the phone yesterday while she was clicking away and looking for the information to tell me, FAN discounts cannot be applied. Take this with a grain of salt.
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Exactly what I have as well.
I have 25 as well but quick math shows this to be more valuable even without FAN. Break down as such.

Fan = 60-$15 = $45+each line, in my case that's 6 more lines but the 4th is free so that's 5 lines = $245+tax/fee.

New plan = $185 for 4 lines + $60 for 3 more lines = $245 +tax/fees -$25 for Directv + tethering (important) so the new plan even without fan/4th line free I'm coming out ahead due to the # of lines
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I have 25 as well but quick math shows this to be more valuable even without FAN. Break down as such.

Fan = 60-$15 = $45+each line, in my case that's 6 more lines but the 4th is free so that's 5 lines = $245+tax/fee.

New plan = $185 for 4 lines + $60 for 3 more lines = $245 +tax/fees -$25 for Directv + tethering (important) so the new plan even without fan/4th line free I'm coming out ahead due to the # of lines
 

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I'm on T-Mobile, with about 10 lines (business plan)

But I fail to see why anyone is still on AT&T.

With T-Mobile being the cheaper option, and Verizon having a vastly better network than AT&T while still being cheaper, it astounds me that people are still on AT&T.

This is not meant as a personal attack, please explain why you wouldn't switch from them?

I have never had any issues with At&t. Reliable and fast. With my FAN discount, paying about the same, maybe a little more, than I would on Verizon.

As for T-Mobile, easy pass. Travel frequently for work with a co-worker who has T-Mobile. Absolutely abysmal service most of the time. He says its like that most of the places he goes.
 
Sure they do...it's called a "resort fee". $25-$40 per night, includes WIFI. In some cases, if you want "faster" wifi, it will cost you upwards of $10 more per night. Almost ANY hotel (not Motel) charges it now. Being a "fee", it's not subject to tax and is pure profit for the hotel. Unfortunately, whether or not you use it, you are forced to pay for it.

Resort fees are only charged in resort or tourist trade hotels -- worldwide. They are typically not found in ordinary location or at business hotels. But to the point of the original post resort fees are not isolated to U.S. locations. They also have nothing to do with Wi-Fi. I travel a lot, I know the fees I pay. If I'm in Las Vegas or at a Spa, a beach hotel, sure. If I'm downtown Chicago or Houston, no.

A Wi-Fi charge is just that -- you want Wi-Fi you have to pay for it a la carte. But no major hotel charges for that anymore. It may not be the fastest speed, but that was not OPs point. It was that US hotels charge for Wi-Fi and the answer to that is no, no they don't.
 
I have 25 as well but quick math shows this to be more valuable even without FAN. Break down as such.

Fan = 60-$15 = $45+each line, in my case that's 6 more lines but the 4th is free so that's 5 lines = $245+tax/fee.

New plan = $185 for 4 lines + $60 for 3 more lines = $245 +tax/fees -$25 for Directv + tethering (important) so the new plan even without fan/4th line free I'm coming out ahead due to the # of lines
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It doesn't work well for me without a FAN discount. Here's my breakdown.

currently: $60 UDP - FAN discount ($15) + $40 access fee + 2nd line access fee $40 = $125 + taxes
Unlimited Plus (tethering included): $155 (2 lines,no FAN discount, and no auto-pay) - $25 DTV discount = $130 + taxes
 
I currently pay about $120/mo for just myself on AT&T. Unlimited data + DirecTV.

The main concern I have is the "3MB/s" thing on the new $60 plan....I'm confused as to if that will be enough to watch live streams from Twitch.tv and videos. Do I lose my 4G? I know 3MB/s isn't 4G speeds, but do I lose 4G or still have it? Multiple AT&T reps had me really confused because they basically all had different answers and didn't really know.

My speeds are perfect and have been since I've had AT&T. I just don't know how 3MB/s will effect all that.
 
It doesn't work well for me without a FAN discount. Here's my breakdown.

currently: $60 UDP - FAN discount ($15) + $40 access fee + 2nd line access fee $40 = $125 + taxes
Unlimited Plus (tethering included): $155 (2 lines,no FAN discount, and no auto-pay) - $25 DTV discount = $130 + taxes

Hi,
Why not just do the autopay and save the $10? Can a debit card be used? I see alot of them with a MasterCard or Visa logo on them
 
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Is there any reason at all for a grandfathered unlimited user not to switch to the new plan with hotspot?
 
Hi,
Why not just do the autopay and save the $10? Can a debit card be used? I see alot of them with a MasterCard or Visa logo on them

Autopay discount only applies to bank draft. I don't think a debit card could be used as it would need your pin input.

The main concern I have is the "3MB/s" thing on the new $60 plan....I'm confused as to if that will be enough to watch live streams from Twitch.tv and videos. Do I lose my 4G? I know 3MB/s isn't 4G speeds, but do I lose 4G or still have it? Multiple AT&T reps had me really confused because they basically all had different answers and didn't really know.

My speeds are perfect and have been since I've had AT&T. I just don't know how 3MB/s will effect all that.

Keep in mind it is 3 megabits/second (Mbps) not megabytes/second (MBps). Throughput on the former is ideally about 375 kilobytes/second, which is a far cry from 3 megabytes/second.
 
Autopay discount only applies to bank draft. I don't think a debit card could be used as it would need your pin input.



Keep in mind it is 3 megabits/second (Mbps) not megabytes/second (MBps). Throughput on the former is ideally about 375 kilobytes/second, which is a far cry from 3 megabytes/second.

They would think of even offering that? They're seriously offering 3 megaBITS per second? That's literally next to nothing.

That can't load anything fast, let alone watch videos or live streams....
 
They would think of even offering that? They're seriously offering 3 megaBITS per second? That's literally next to nothing.

That can't load anything fast, let alone watch videos or live streams....

Take it with a grain of salt, as they don't even put the acronym together correctly (bolded):

https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/unlimited-plan.html

  • 3Mpbs Max Speed
    After 22GB of data usage, AT&T may slow speeds.
  • Standard-Definition Video
    Video streamed at max of 1.5Mbps (about 480p)

I hope they mean megabytes/second, but aren't intelligent enough to know the difference.
 
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Take it with a grain of salt, as they don't even put the acronym together correctly (bolded):

https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/unlimited-plan.html



I hope they mean megabytes/second, but aren't intelligent enough to know the difference.
It doesn't work well for me without a FAN discount. Here's my breakdown.

currently: $60 UDP - FAN discount ($15) + $40 access fee + 2nd line access fee $40 = $125 + taxes
Unlimited Plus (tethering included): $155 (2 lines,no FAN discount, and no auto-pay) - $25 DTV discount = $130 + taxes

I'm the same.
If I can't use the FAN discount, then I end up paying $18/month more for the new unlimited plan. Seeing how I'm grandfathered in with the 30GB/month at the 15GB/month price promo, I'm not switching to this new plan.
With only 4 lines, my kids and I very rarely go over 30GB, and in those rare circumstances (summer) where we might, we usually have some rollover data available that month.
If they change their mind, and allow FAN, then I'm in.
Or, if for some reason they find out that I no longer work at the company that gave me the FAN discount, I'll also jump in then. ;-P
 
I just read through the entire set of comments posted in the last day. Wow!

Clearly, there is a ton of confusion and interest about these plans, what AT&T does, what Verizon offers, how they compare, and how T-Mobile has caused both of them to start to offer SOME value.

I realize that there are many reasons why someone would want to stay with their current carrier: phone purchase contract, grandfathered plan, coverage in areas you use, conference calling capabilities, travel abroad, etc.

As someone who had been with AT&T for 10 years until last week, I too had stayed for much longer than was probably smart due to inertia and perceived network coverage.

I made the switch to T-Mobile, am saving a ton of money and find that the coverage is comparable and MUCH faster than with AT&T.

For those who are locked into AT&T for one reason or another, I sincerely hope that the new Unlimited Plus plan gives you a good alternative. I also hope that FAN discounts apply (although it seems not, at least not until Verizon starts offering discounts). However, for those of you NOT locked into AT&T, what do you have to lose by trying T-Mobile out?

I would argue that the plan offerings and features are much better and you won't know about coverage until you try it out. Even if you've anecdotally heard about how bad their network is, that information could be old or it could come from people who did not have phones with the right bands on them.

So, if their coverage is good where you need it to be, your could save a ton of money (2 lines for $100, 3rd line free, 20% off lifetime of account, taxes and fees included, international data included, etc., etc.). Furthermore, you will get back $150 per line after 4-6 weeks.

Worst case scenario, their network is not as good for you (or you have a phone which doesn't have their bands), and your coverage sucks. If so, then simply go back to AT&T. Collect your $150 per line when passing Go and simply transfer back at that time. Will you have lost your FAN discount? Possibly, but maybe only if you can't qualify for it again.

As a final point, I think that the more people leave (myself included) the more that AT&T and Verizon will have to realize that their plan features and pricing need to change to stay competitive. While those carriers clearly have many more business customers who are unlikely to change, clearly there were enough people who switched in the last two weeks to make AT&T take a MASSIVE about face on the plan introduced only 11 days ago.
 
I just read through the entire set of comments posted in the last day. Wow!

Clearly, there is a ton of confusion and interest about these plans, what AT&T does, what Verizon offers, how they compare, and how T-Mobile has caused both of them to start to offer SOME value.

I realize that there are many reasons why someone would want to stay with their current carrier: phone purchase contract, grandfathered plan, coverage in areas you use, conference calling capabilities, travel abroad, etc.

As someone who had been with AT&T for 10 years until last week, I too had stayed for much longer than was probably smart due to inertia and perceived network coverage.

I made the switch to T-Mobile, am saving a ton of money and find that the coverage is comparable and MUCH faster than with AT&T.

For those who are locked into AT&T for one reason or another, I sincerely hope that the new Unlimited Plus plan gives you a good alternative. I also hope that FAN discounts apply (although it seems not, at least not until Verizon starts offering discounts). However, for those of you NOT locked into AT&T, what do you have to lose by trying T-Mobile out?

I would argue that the plan offerings and features are much better and you won't know about coverage until you try it out. Even if you've anecdotally heard about how bad their network is, that information could be old or it could come from people who did not have phones with the right bands on them.

So, if their coverage is good where you need it to be, your could save a ton of money (2 lines for $100, 3rd line free, 20% off lifetime of account, taxes and fees included, international data included, etc., etc.). Furthermore, you will get back $150 per line after 4-6 weeks.

Worst case scenario, their network is not as good for you (or you have a phone which doesn't have their bands), and your coverage sucks. If so, then simply go back to AT&T. Collect your $150 per line when passing Go and simply transfer back at that time. Will you have lost your FAN discount? Possibly, but maybe only if you can't qualify for it again.

As a final point, I think that the more people leave (myself included) the more that AT&T and Verizon will have to realize that their plan features and pricing need to change to stay competitive. While those carriers clearly have many more business customers who are unlikely to change, clearly there were enough people who switched in the last two weeks to make AT&T take a MASSIVE about face on the plan introduced only 11 days ago.
I just read through the entire set of comments posted in the last day. Wow!

Clearly, there is a ton of confusion and interest about these plans, what AT&T does, what Verizon offers, how they compare, and how T-Mobile has caused both of them to start to offer SOME value.

I realize that there are many reasons why someone would want to stay with their current carrier: phone purchase contract, grandfathered plan, coverage in areas you use, conference calling capabilities, travel abroad, etc.

As someone who had been with AT&T for 10 years until last week, I too had stayed for much longer than was probably smart due to inertia and perceived network coverage.

I made the switch to T-Mobile, am saving a ton of money and find that the coverage is comparable and MUCH faster than with AT&T.

For those who are locked into AT&T for one reason or another, I sincerely hope that the new Unlimited Plus plan gives you a good alternative. I also hope that FAN discounts apply (although it seems not, at least not until Verizon starts offering discounts). However, for those of you NOT locked into AT&T, what do you have to lose by trying T-Mobile out?

I would argue that the plan offerings and features are much better and you won't know about coverage until you try it out. Even if you've anecdotally heard about how bad their network is, that information could be old or it could come from people who did not have phones with the right bands on them.

So, if their coverage is good where you need it to be, your could save a ton of money (2 lines for $100, 3rd line free, 20% off lifetime of account, taxes and fees included, international data included, etc., etc.). Furthermore, you will get back $150 per line after 4-6 weeks.

Worst case scenario, their network is not as good for you (or you have a phone which doesn't have their bands), and your coverage sucks. If so, then simply go back to AT&T. Collect your $150 per line when passing Go and simply transfer back at that time. Will you have lost your FAN discount? Possibly, but maybe only if you can't qualify for it again.

As a final point, I think that the more people leave (myself included) the more that AT&T and Verizon will have to realize that their plan features and pricing need to change to stay competitive. While those carriers clearly have many more business customers who are unlikely to change, clearly there were enough people who switched in the last two weeks to make AT&T take a MASSIVE about face on the plan introduced only 11 days ago.


For me, the potential for a big hassle isn't worth it. 4 lines of unlimited data is $160 a month with T-Mobile. I'm getting 30GB a month with rollover for $167 a month (with FAN discount) from ATT. As I said, we rarely go over, so I don't really need unlimited, and I currently can tether as many GB as I want, as long as I don't go over 30 GB total.

Is $7 a month savings worth the headache of paying off all of my families iPhones, and risking getting a crappy signal from T-Mobile? No, it's not.
 
Without this story I would have never known. This is very much welcomed.
Exactly! I have been waiting for Att to do this but if it hadn't been here I wouldn't have seen it yet. I have been stalking the internet to hoping Att would add tethering. Thanks MR for covering it!
 
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3 way calls have been possible with Verizon for a long time (even since the days of basic feature phones). 6 way calling has been possible since the days of VoLTE.
Agreed, but, there's that word you used - possible. Not picking nits here, it also depends on the network. I'm in rural WA/OR/ID on jobs most of the time - in Wahkiakum Co. WA now, in USCC territory with VZW towers across the Columbia River, with nothing more than 1X and Extended 1X between Skamokawa and about a mile east of Nacelle, no other network provides a signal. Same for plenty of other locations in my 3-state work area, a PITA but that's where my money's made quite often. I also carry a sat phone like my contractors. The VZW antennas are on microwave backhaul too, as are the local ATTWS antennas so often there's a bit of a delay in voice calls that drives us a bit o_O. Cheers!
 
Hi,
Why not just do the autopay and save the $10? Can a debit card be used? I see alot of them with a MasterCard or Visa logo on them
I don't like using AutoPay with a bank draft and I believe this is the only form of payment via autopay (listed on AT&T's website) for this type of deal. With AutoPay from a bank draft it is notoriously much harder to dispute a charge and receive the reimbursement/refund vs. using a traditional credit card.
 
Hi,
Why not just do the autopay and save the $10? Can a debit card be used? I see alot of them with a MasterCard or Visa logo on them
Autopay discount only applies to bank draft. I don't think a debit card could be used as it would need your pin input.
I called the AT&T Wireless Billing Department. A debit card CAN be used to get the $10 discount.

She also said no FAN discounts, only military/vets.
 
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For me, it is coverage. Many TMo customers (mainly service men) have been to my house and don't have signal and borrow my AT&T phone.
I agree. For me it is also coverage. Verizon and T-MO coverage is very sporadic where I live. AT&T has a lot better coverage in my area. Trust me I would jump ship to another carrier if they had better coverage.
 
Agreed, but, there's that word you used - possible. Not picking nits here, it also depends on the network. I'm in rural WA/OR/ID on jobs most of the time - in Wahkiakum Co. WA now, in USCC territory with VZW towers across the Columbia River, with nothing more than 1X and Extended 1X between Skamokawa and about a mile east of Nacelle, no other network provides a signal. Same for plenty of other locations in my 3-state work area, a PITA but that's where my money's made quite often. I also carry a sat phone like my contractors. The VZW antennas are on microwave backhaul too, as are the local ATTWS antennas so often there's a bit of a delay in voice calls that drives us a bit o_O. Cheers!
Right, as I mentioned, with VoLTE involved for 6 way calls. 1X works fine for 3 way calling (although with roaming/extended or no signal there can certainly be limitations to even the most basic of services).
 
3mbps sounds like a joke.
That's why it's an option and not the default. Did you read they are offering a full LTE data speed plan as well?
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As a 10 year customer of AT&T, we just switched to T-Mobile last week. We're saving so much money and the service has been the same. Peace out AT&T!

We're $40 less a month than AT&T's new plans and there were no activation fees. What a joke!

Good luck with coverage once you leave the city. I hated TMO for that reason. AT&T definitely has way better coverage.
 
They would think of even offering that? They're seriously offering 3 megaBITS per second? That's literally next to nothing.

That can't load anything fast, let alone watch videos or live streams....

It's slow, but you can still watch videos. I have DSL at home which maxes out at 6Mbps and I can stream 2 Netflix shows in HD. Compression has made slow connections viable.
 
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I'm actually thinking of dropping my single Grandfathered Unlimited plan for the first time since 2007. However, with the FAN discount I pay $76 a month for a pretty decent plan.

I don't believe the FAN apply to these new unlimited plans.

Has anyone on else dropped their single Grandfathered Unlimited plan?
 
Is there any reason at all for a grandfathered unlimited user not to switch to the new plan with hotspot?
If you only have 1 line, doesn't care for tethering, and have a good FAN discount, the grandfathered unlimited plan is still a lot cheaper than the new plans.

For myself:
450 Nation - 39.99
Unlimited Data - 34.99
200 Text messages - 5.00

With the 22% FAN discount I am paying less than $70 per month.
 
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