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It has nothing to do with how many people are not having any problems. Everyone, even if it's half a dozen that have it activated are having zero issues that's first of all. Second of all I am not even complaining about that. I am saying that nobody knows whats going on. Some reps are telling me that esim doesn't exist. Then some dealers are still activating, then other reps telling me it will be active last week, then others are telling me I will receive a QR code in the email.
 
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It has nothing to do with how many people are not having any problems. Everyone, even if it's half a dozen that have it activated are having zero issues that's first of all. Second of all I am not even complaining about that. I am saying that nobody knows whats going on. Some reps are telling me that esim doesn't exist. Then some dealers are still activating, then other reps telling me it will be active last week, then others are telling me I will receive a QR code in the email.

FWIW it isn’t any better on Tmo. One day Tmo is waiting on ATT, the next it’s themselves. Flip flippers.
 
So apparently VVM issue that ATT is having is when you have 2 ATT sims active. I know ATT doesn't want to launch with any issues, however are they really that naive thinking majority of the users will have 2 ATT sims active in 1 phone?
The whole point of this is to have 2 providers, either if you travel or even locally.
 
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It has nothing to do with how many people are not having any problems. Everyone, even if it's half a dozen that have it activated are having zero issues that's first of all. Second of all I am not even complaining about that. I am saying that nobody knows whats going on. Some reps are telling me that esim doesn't exist. Then some dealers are still activating, then other reps telling me it will be active last week, then others are telling me I will receive a QR code in the email.


Why would the reps know anything? This is a software development issue.
 
So apparently VVM issue that ATT is having is when you have 2 ATT sims active. I know ATT doesn't want to launch with any issues, however are they really that naive thinking majority of the users will have 2 ATT sims active in 1 phone?
The whole point of this is to have 2 providers, either if you travel or even locally.
I have to AT&T sims active and I have no problems with voicemail
 
I'm back on ATT after a few years away, is there any way to use the Apple SIM along with the physical SIM card for both ATT service and Sprint 1 year free?

And does ATT still have that wierd issue where if you put them on your Apple SIM the Apple Watch gets locked to ATT and there's no way to unlock it?
 
Is there any advantage to using an esim as opposed to the normal sim card?
Not interested in having 2 different carriers, does the esim give better reception?

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Is there any advantage to using an esim as opposed to the normal sim card?
Not interested in having 2 different carriers, does the esim give better reception?

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No. It just frees up a sim slot. If you have no use to have a second carrrier there’s no need to take advantage. In fact if you don’t want to use a second sim it’s more of a hassle cause if the device fails you can’t just pop out the sim and put it into a new one.
 
No luck at my local store manager said he’s never seen an esim.
This would be a store I'd never go to then, LOL. I've not seen even a third party (authorized reseller) who isn't aware of them yet let alone corp store.
This was a corp store.

Technically you cannot "see" an eSIM since they are an embedded chip inside your phone ;)

That said ask them about the boxes of blue cardboard cards with QR codes on them, they usually know what those are.
 
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Technically you cannot "see" an eSIM since they are an embedded chip inside your phone ;)

That said ask them about the boxes of blue cardboard cards with QR codes on them, they usually know what those are.

True, will try again when I have free time.
 
It has nothing to do with how many people are not having any problems. Everyone, even if it's half a dozen that have it activated are having zero issues that's first of all. Second of all I am not even complaining about that. I am saying that nobody knows whats going on. Some reps are telling me that esim doesn't exist. Then some dealers are still activating, then other reps telling me it will be active last week, then others are telling me I will receive a QR code in the email.

anybody willing to pick me up an esim? i will pay 20.00 on paypal for a picture of valid unused esim
 
Technically you cannot "see" an eSIM since they are an embedded chip inside your phone ;)

That said ask them about the boxes of blue cardboard cards with QR codes on them, they usually know what those are.

An eSIM isn't in the phone. An eSIM is a virtual link within ATT's provisioning system linking a serial and IMEI to a virtual sim card in their system. But I get what you're goin for ;-)
 
An eSIM isn't in the phone. An eSIM is a virtual link within ATT's provisioning system linking a serial and IMEI to a virtual sim card in their system. But I get what you're goin for ;-)

Aha.

Thanks for saying that. Now I understand why we cannot use two eSIM cellular plans at the same time.
 
An eSIM isn't in the phone. An eSIM is a virtual link within ATT's provisioning system linking a serial and IMEI to a virtual sim card in their system. But I get what you're goin for ;-)

A traditional SIM consists of a microprocessor and a storage of some sort on plastic card. This storage has space for some phone numbers, but otherwise holds private keys for your service provider to authenticate. In basic terms, when you put an activated SIM into your phone it, the phone provider sends message to the phone and the SIM card decrypts it. On the other end, the SIM sends an encrypted message to the network provider that only the network provider can decrypt. Once both ends give the okay, the phone service is now authenticated and can be used.

The eSIM is the same microprocessor and storage except it housed within a chip on your device's motherboard. The difference is the storage does not hold the private keys for your service provider hence it requires an external mechanism for it to work. Instead you scan the QR code, it downloads an SIM provision profile that contains the public and private keys directly into the storage of the eSIM microchip. Then it does the same exact function as a traditional SIM card. The other difference is the eSIM has storage for multiple SIM profiles therefore you can switch between them as you please. That why I said the store manager cannot see the eSIM. It is still a physical chip on your phone.

The IMEI is just for the phone provider an additional step for authentication when service is already be authenticated by the SIM card. Your serial number isn't even used at all.
 
Just spoke to ATT now that 12.1.1 is out and ATT told me again that they are working hard with Apple to resolve the issue and 12.1.1 did not fix it.
 
I’m beginning to think AT&T (and Verizon) does not want to activate E-Sim at all. Mine has been working well since 12.1 beta with no problems. Now it seems they’re just making an excuse on why they can’t activate.
 
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