AT&T iPhone 3G Pricing Details:

[Donz0r]

Remember, if you feel like AT&T/Apple are capitalizing just a little bit too much on the iPhone 3G with these rates, then do not buy an iPhone. It's that simple. Or buy a Blackberry from Verizon to really rub it in (not they Verizon's rates are all that much better).

Getting a Blackberr or Smartphone on Verizon is actually 10 dollars more per month

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion=priceSort&typeId=3&subTypeId=49&catId=448

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion=priceSort&typeId=4&subTypeId=51&catId=449

 

[diamond.g]

Since some folks here seem pretty knowledgeable about AT&T's billing practices, I'm curious if anyone knows whether rollover minutes accumulated under my original iPhone contract will stick around when I buy my new iPhone and sign a new contract, or if I'll be losing them?

In the past AT&T lets you keep your rollover if you are upgrading voice plans. Changing data didn't affect that.

If I get two phones on $129 Family Plan, can I have 1 phone with no text messaging, and 1 phone with $5 (200 per month) text messaging?

If you get two iPhones on the 129 family plan you should be able to do the texting thing you speak of.

Ok, it seems the Family Plan works like this:

1.) $130 for two iPhones includes 700 min. plus unlimited data for the BOTH iPhones. (Currently, it's $70 for the plan plus $30 for each data plan so it's basically the same, they just rolled it into one plan)

2.) $10 for 200 messages ($5 x 2 iPhones)

Total before taxes is $140. $10 more than the current Family setup.

3.) So, for $10 more you get faster internet service and exchange support. That's not (that) bad. I mean, did you expect ATT to give you more for the same price?

Actually number two should read 30 dollars more expensive as the 700 minute plan was 109.99 and it includes 200 sms with each iPhone 2G.

 

[L3X]

The Family Plans include TWO iPhones. Additional iPhones are $10 to add a line and $30 for the data plan.

If you add non-iPhone phones to the Family Plans then it is only $9.99.

These charts are pretty clear, not sure why there is all this confusion.

 

[muzzymate]

Is it .20c (1/5 of a penny) for a text message or $0.20 per text message? I would imagine it should says 20c per text.

 

[bcparfitt]

I bought 2 iPhones in June 2007 both are eligible to be upgraded.

Interesting... I also bought two phones in June of 2007 and I am not eligible until Dec 2008. Can you provide more details on what you bought and where you are from?

I have the Samsung flip phone that was basically the lowest end phone I could get when I signed up. My monthly bill averages around $95 for two phones (wife got the same phone as I did during time of sign up).

At&T mentions upgrade eligibility is based on length remaining on contract and payment history or something to that effect. I would like to try and understand how this is actually determined.

 

[extraextra]

If you wanted to upgrade from this plan, what would you end up paying?

I bought an iPhone on launch day, which I hope means I'm eligible for an upgrade. So, would I pay $299 for the 16 GB iPhone, same price for data without my text messaging plan, then have to pay for texting on top of that?



Any help on this?

You'd pay the $30 for data and then $5 for texting, raising your bill by $15. I believe AT&T is only keeping the $20 plans for people who have the 1st generation phones with EDGE, if you buy a 3G phone then you must pay for the 3G plan.

 

[mjerald]

Just got off the phone with AT&T. I currently have a basic Family Talk plan, 550 minutes w/3 lines (1 iPhone, 2 non-iPhone). I pay $100 per month ($60 for plan + $10 each for 2nd and 3rd lines, +$20 for iPhone data). For the privilege of owning an iPhone 3G, I must switch to the new Family Talk plan, 700 minutes, for which I will pay $140 per month ($130 for plan, includes iPhone data, + $10 for 3rd line). Of course, I will lose 200 free text messages. To sum that up, owning one iPhone 3G will cost me $40 extra dollars per month, with associated taxes, plus fees, for minutes I won't use; and I can take advantage of some sorta cool new features and higher speed data; but I must give up free text messages, which if I want them back, will cost me another $5 per month. And now we know why AT&T can afford to subsidize the cost of the phones. I don't know about the rest of you out there, but I will not be adopting the iPhone 3G. It just isn't worth it to me. Hey, at least I won't be standing in line after all.

I have the same plan and if true, forget the 3G...

I just got this from AT&T by email clipped.

The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple
store locations. You must accept AT&T and Apple's Terms and Conditions,
as well as select a 3G iPhone Data plan before leaving the store. You
can add the $30.00 per month 3G iPhone Unlimited Data (Email-Web) plan
that includes Visual Voicemail to your qualifying voice plan. The 3G
iPhone $45.00 per month Unlimited Data with personal and Corprorate
e-mail, Web, and Visual Voicemail can be added to your qualifying voice
plan if you intend on using the 3G iPhone for access to corporate
e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet.

 

[Klaxons2012]

I'm very glad that I can pre-qualify for a new AT&T plan ahead of the launch. Now I can buy from the Apple store with little mess or incident.

I understand the frustration with the plans because ultimately AT&T's version of an unlimited "everything" package is about $40 more than Sprint's if i'm correct. The family plans are confusing as all hell too. I'm content with the plan i'm going to get which is about $10 more than what I used to pay for my iPhone PYP account.

I don't really think we're going to complain our way out of this situation. I look forward to getting my phone and enjoying my plan.

 

[btcutter]

where does it say that???

It says you can pre-purchase in store before July 11th

where???? is that true???

 

[drb6]

Yeah, they're all going to suddenly decide they want to make less money.

And...why do you think THAT will happen?

Wow, chill dude. Why is there so much negative passion on these forums.

I haven't been keeping up on every little detail about the google platform but from what I have heard, there are possibilities of using VOIP over internet and other cool things which would basically make the phone its put on to rely entirely on internet and not need voice plans. I would call that a pretty significant development, if it does happen.

 

[GradientMac]

I'm lost as to why you guys are complaining, these plans are AWESOME!

 

[Paix247]

This REALLY is a ripoff for long time AT&T Customers. I will have to pay $60 MORE per month to switch from the iPhone 2.5G to the iPhone 3G. Plus, I lose 150 minutes per month. Ouch.

Current Plan
Base Plan 1 Phone 850 minutes: $60
Add 2 lines: $20
Add 2 iPhone Data Plans: $30
Add 200 texts to two lines: $10
Add unlimited Mobile to mobile text to two lines: $10
TOTAL $130 plus tax

iPhone 3G Plan
Base Plan 1 Phone 700 minutes: $90
Add 2 lines: $20
Add 1 iPhone 3G 1 iPhone orig. Data: $50
Unlimited Text Messages Family
(needed because no more mobile to mobile): $30
TOTAL: $190

 

[lucky3killer]

I will get 16 GB iPhone 3G on July 11 for $500 due not quality for upgrade discount, not big deal.

The monthly for unlimited data and text will be $40 for deaf customers, including me.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Ah, here is a fee that has been left out... the upgrade fee for existing customers. $18. So your true initial out-of-pocket cost is either $217 + tax or 317 + tax. I wonder if there is a fuel surcharge as well.

 

[drchipinski]

No.. it is the 1800s, when businesses were run to make money. AT&T isn't your friend, they are your service provider, and they are in business to make money. They know everyone will be choosing a texting plan, it is just another way to make more money.


Oh really? Can you cite the laws governing that?

-- I honestly don't know why everyone is going crazy over this. Did you really think it would be the same price.. or cheaper? Really? Did you? When a carton of milk is $4, or filling up a tank of gas is $80? Here's a shocker.. everything is more expensive now, and AT&T is keeping up with the rest of the world.

Oh, so maybe for you guys who were complaining about the exclusivity of the iPhone (RAZR effect) here ya go.. that pricing will keep some of the people out.

My plan will go from $180 to $210 a month. I'm fine with that.

Try www.ftc.gov - you will find all you need to know and then some.

 

[flipperman75]

8 Am

So they've confirmed they are selling starting at 8 AM. Will they have any left by the afternoon when I get off work? Or will all the fanboys who line up the day before in their Luke Skywalker costumes get them all?

 

[baslotto]

Rumor "$700 for a 16GB iPhone" rumor was true in May!

I'm not surprised about the individual plans, nor the cost of the phone itself.
I'm surprised to see that one of the rumors pre-WWDC putting an iPhone price up to $700 was right.

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/31/3g-iphone-specs-and-prices/

The first comments are now funny because they are finally true.

The rumor was predicting a $700 phone with 32GB of memory, GPS and video conferencing. This one is only 16 GB+GPS for the same price.

At this point I could buy a new iPhone with the contract for 399 and then brake the contract for 175 (still 100+ bucks cheaper than the unsubsidized phone).

I still think I'm gonna wait for the first reactions and price drops or memory-boosts (and probably a "snappier Safari") since I'll be eligible in early November.

 

[bytethese]

See this screenshot: http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/07/01/104157-upgrade.jpg

What makes you ineligible if you are a current Non-iPhone AT&T customer is this. And I won't sugar coat it so people will understand:

- You accepted a $100-$200 subsidy on your current phone from AT&T. ie. AT&T gave you up to $200 so you would sign a 2 year contract with them.
- You voluntarily signed a 2 year contract, knowing that if you wanted to buy a new subsidized phone before 2 years was up, you would have to pay $175.

Those are the people who fall under the "inelgiible" to buy a subsidized iPhone price. Those people can still buy an iPhone 3G but have to pay $200 more to cover their previous subsidy.

Arn, you make me all sorts of warm and fuzzy. I still can't believe people who got a free/reduced cost phone in the past 18mo expect another price reduction. Wow.

 

[Klaxons2012]

I have the same plan and if true, forget the 3G...

I just got this from AT&T by email clipped.

The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple
store locations. You must accept AT&T and Apple's Terms and Conditions,
as well as select a 3G iPhone Data plan before leaving the store. You
can add the $30.00 per month 3G iPhone Unlimited Data (Email-Web) plan
that includes Visual Voicemail to your qualifying voice plan. The 3G
iPhone $45.00 per month Unlimited Data with personal and Corprorate
e-mail, Web, and Visual Voicemail can be added to your qualifying voice
plan if you intend on using the 3G iPhone for access to corporate
e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet.

They're really going to make it hurt to buy it in an Apple store on launch day. I hope there's a way to streamline the process because I like being able to walk into an Apple store and say "it's broke, fix it".

 

[IJ Reilly]

The best and only way to avoid a "rip-off" is to not buy something if you think it's too expensive for what you get. A difficult concept? I think not.

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

You'd pay the $30 for data and then $5 for texting, raising your bill by $15. I believe AT&T is only keeping the $20 plans for people who have the 1st generation phones with EDGE, if you buy a 3G phone then you must pay for the 3G plan.

So, in essence, they've raised the data $10 per month and the texting $5?

Right now I'm paying

20 for data
10 for text (i think, whatever the 1500 one is)


I'd have to pay

30 for data
15 for text



??

 

[Donz0r]

I have the same plan and if true, forget the 3G...

I just got this from AT&T by email clipped.

The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple
store locations. You must accept AT&T and Apple's Terms and Conditions,
as well as select a 3G iPhone Data plan before leaving the store. You
can add the $30.00 per month 3G iPhone Unlimited Data (Email-Web) plan
that includes Visual Voicemail to your qualifying voice plan. The 3G
iPhone $45.00 per month Unlimited Data with personal and Corprorate
e-mail, Web, and Visual Voicemail can be added to your qualifying voice
plan if you intend on using the 3G iPhone for access to corporate
e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet.

I don't see why the 550 minute plan wouldn't ''qualify'' and the 700 min one would. I have the 1400 family plan w/ unlimited texting so it should just cost 30 more bucks a month, as expected.

 

[arn]

The thing that bothers me is I see a lot of people telling me "Well this is how it works with the huge discount AT&T gave you on your last phone."

My phone is the Samsung Slider which retails for $25. I knew I wanted an iPhone so I purposely did not buy a subsidized phone. I paid that $25, AFTER a mail in rebate. It seems to me I got ripped off by AT&T and now they want more money?

the samsung slider phone at AT&T (if this is the same one) actually retails for $229.99

 

[supmango]

What prices did AT&T raise? These prices look like they've been the same for a while now. If you're referring to the $20 -> $30 well that's the standard pricing for data for most carriers.

AT&T should've treated the iPhone like any other smartphone in the beginning - charging $30 for data and $5 for SMS's like the others. There would've been far less confusion and (later) outrage.



No, you can have a line with text and other lines without.

Like,

Phone #1 - 1500 texts ($15 a month)
Phone #2 - gets no text plan ($.20 per text)

If you want EVERYONE on the family plan to have texting, the only option is the $30 unlimited.

That was not my point. Rate plans have increased (we will say "slightly"), regardless of the trend in the market. That is a side note to the fact that all these new customers ATT is attracting will be paying an extra at least 70 dollars a month, not to mention any early term fees with other carriers. All of this assuming they are still on one of the old plans like I am on. If I were to upgrade to the new iPhone, my bill would increase from 92.00 to 140.00. Ok, so that is fine with me because I have the income to support it; But there are many people out there who really don't look past this month's paycheck and yet still manage to have pretty decent credit. For ATT's sake, I would hope that they have a very good system for credit checks. Credit checks really only look at your history and current credit balances, they don't really have the capacity to look at current trends in the economy and other potential sources for "defaulting" on new contracts. Maybe they have this figured out, but my guess is that even if they do there will be very little they can do to prevent it at this point.

 

[mrwizardno2]

I'm lost as to why you guys are complaining, these plans are AWESOME!

Please pass whatever you're smoking, it is obviously very good!