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Audio Processing Causing Heat and Performance Issues for Nehalem Mac Pros
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My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
People like to make all the excuses in the world for why we do business with Communist China that has about as much concern for democracy and human rights as Intel has for AMD (ok, that's a lie; it's a lot LESS actually). It's good for what? Business? No, it's good for certain corporations that save a lot of money in human labor costs that way. It isn't good for the country and it's sure as heck not good for the product quality level. I'm SICK of companies putting their flipping profit margins ahead of quality and morality. Most of this country's problems today can be traced back to GREED (on the part of politicians and on the part of the corporations that bribe them through lobbyists). Who cares about customer service when you can lie? Who cares about human beings or their opinions when sales are through the roof? Who cares about the country you live in when you're rich enough to buy your own dang island!?!? Clearly, I'm talking about most corporations, banks, etc., not just Apple here.
Given the comments Steve Jobs has made about Google and what not lately (arrogant, spiteful, mean, greedy type crap), I cannot imagine he's really all that grateful for his second chance at life some anonymous donor afforded him. After all, he got to the front of the line with deep pockets and a trip to Tennessee. Who values life when you think you can buy it? Who cares about anyone but yourself when you're "the man" and everyone worships the ground you walk on? The question is what good will any of that do any of these people when they die? If good deeds follow you onward, where does endless greed and cutthroat business tactics at the expense of people's jobs and livelihood get you??? I personally wouldn't want to find out.
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
People like to make all the excuses in the world for why we do business with Communist China that has about as much concern for democracy and human rights as Intel has for AMD (ok, that's a lie; it's a lot LESS actually). It's good for what? Business? No, it's good for certain corporations that save a lot of money in human labor costs that way. It isn't good for the country and it's sure as heck not good for the product quality level. I'm SICK of companies putting their flipping profit margins ahead of quality and morality. Most of this country's problems today can be traced back to GREED (on the part of politicians and on the part of the corporations that bribe them through lobbyists). Who cares about customer service when you can lie? Who cares about human beings or their opinions when sales are through the roof? Who cares about the country you live in when you're rich enough to buy your own dang island!?!? Clearly, I'm talking about most corporations, banks, etc., not just Apple here.
Given the comments Steve Jobs has made about Google and what not lately (arrogant, spiteful, mean, greedy type crap), I cannot imagine he's really all that grateful for his second chance at life some anonymous donor afforded him. After all, he got to the front of the line with deep pockets and a trip to Tennessee. Who values life when you think you can buy it? Who cares about anyone but yourself when you're "the man" and everyone worships the ground you walk on? The question is what good will any of that do any of these people when they die? If good deeds follow you onward, where does endless greed and cutthroat business tactics at the expense of people's jobs and livelihood get you??? I personally wouldn't want to find out.
Fantastic post. Thank you.
It's amazing, I've used every single line of Mac Pros for the past 5 years, and I've never seen a model as buggy as the Nehalem (which is the only model I saved enough to afford, of course).
I kept convincing myself the performance issues with Final Cut, my audio interface, itunes, and quicktime were in my head, probably because I paid so much damn money for the system. But this simply confirms it wasn't.
I'm pissed off Apple has not only failed to respond quickly, but is also pretending it doesn't exist.
ADDRESS THE ISSUE NOW, APPLE
I kept convincing myself the performance issues with Final Cut, my audio interface, itunes, and quicktime were in my head, probably because I paid so much damn money for the system. But this simply confirms it wasn't.
I'm pissed off Apple has not only failed to respond quickly, but is also pretending it doesn't exist.
ADDRESS THE ISSUE NOW, APPLE
New kid?
Nobody wants Windows - not with all that registry hassle.
And it looks like Apple keep dropping the ball because they're too busy with iPods, iPhones and the MaxiPad. Those 27" iMac and now Mac Pro problems are very sloppy indeed, as is Apple's lack of acknowledgement.
Anyone else think there's a serious gap in the market for a company to make slick desktop / laptop products that people can trust?
Bring 'em on.
Nobody wants Windows - not with all that registry hassle.
And it looks like Apple keep dropping the ball because they're too busy with iPods, iPhones and the MaxiPad. Those 27" iMac and now Mac Pro problems are very sloppy indeed, as is Apple's lack of acknowledgement.
Anyone else think there's a serious gap in the market for a company to make slick desktop / laptop products that people can trust?
Bring 'em on.
I second that.
I wonder if any of the posters from this thread will chime in?
NPD: 90% of $1,000+ PCs Sold in Fourth Quarter 2009 Were Macs
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/858235/
while i don't have a mac pro, I am appalled that apple fails to acknowledge such a serious and widespread problem. My little pentium 4 DELL from 2003 can play back mp3s flawlessly. There is no reason why a 2009 MAC PRO can't do it. That is just pathetic. Fix the defective machines and be done with it apple the longer you take, the more damage your are going to suffer( users going back to windows). Now, users going back to windows, that would be ironic; considering it was for similar reasons they switched over to the Mac platform.
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
People like to make all the excuses in the world for why we do business with Communist China that has about as much concern for democracy and human rights as Intel has for AMD (ok, that's a lie; it's a lot LESS actually). It's good for what? Business? No, it's good for certain corporations that save a lot of money in human labor costs that way. It isn't good for the country and it's sure as heck not good for the product quality level. I'm SICK of companies putting their flipping profit margins ahead of quality and morality. Most of this country's problems today can be traced back to GREED (on the part of politicians and on the part of the corporations that bribe them through lobbyists). Who cares about customer service when you can lie? Who cares about human beings or their opinions when sales are through the roof? Who cares about the country you live in when you're rich enough to buy your own dang island!?!? Clearly, I'm talking about most corporations, banks, etc., not just Apple here.
Given the comments Steve Jobs has made about Google and what not lately (arrogant, spiteful, mean, greedy type crap), I cannot imagine he's really all that grateful for his second chance at life some anonymous donor afforded him. After all, he got to the front of the line with deep pockets and a trip to Tennessee. Who values life when you think you can buy it? Who cares about anyone but yourself when you're "the man" and everyone worships the ground you walk on? The question is what good will any of that do any of these people when they die? If good deeds follow you onward, where does endless greed and cutthroat business tactics at the expense of people's jobs and livelihood get you??? I personally wouldn't want to find out.
Great point. Everyone is so concerned about getting money, who cares who suffers?
As for the Made in the USA / China thing: look how many toys and other products are being recalled due to high lead content or whatever. It doesn't matter how cheap the labor is if you have to give the money back (and probably more for any legal fees)!
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
I know where you are coming from and it is probably applicable in some cases but this particular issue is from Cupertino. It isn't a hardware fault, it is software.
They will only address this issue if it gets A LOT of media attention.
Apple never fixed the G5 PowerMac problem of overheating and "out of control fans" when a disk (CD/DVD) was inserted. It ended up burning one of my processors, for which Apple charged me a cool $700 to replace. Yes, I let Apple rape me, shame on me, I know.
Three operating systems later, the issue still occurs if I leave a disk inserted. Thank you Apple, or should I say Steve? That's what I call taking care of your customers and loyal supporters.
Apple never fixed the G5 PowerMac problem of overheating and "out of control fans" when a disk (CD/DVD) was inserted. It ended up burning one of my processors, for which Apple charged me a cool $700 to replace. Yes, I let Apple rape me, shame on me, I know.
Three operating systems later, the issue still occurs if I leave a disk inserted. Thank you Apple, or should I say Steve? That's what I call taking care of your customers and loyal supporters.
MP3's are a performance hog and a waste of resources.
HTML 5!!!!!!!!!
Post of the week!
Sure, that's why Windows 7 alone has market share 50% larger than Apple OSX.
I could just as easily say "Nobody wants Mac - all those text preference files scattered all over the disk without a consistent tool to maintain them".
...and it would be just as useless and misleading as your registry comment.
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
People like to make all the excuses in the world for why we do business with Communist China that has about as much concern for democracy and human rights as Intel has for AMD (ok, that's a lie; it's a lot LESS actually). It's good for what? Business? No, it's good for certain corporations that save a lot of money in human labor costs that way. It isn't good for the country and it's sure as heck not good for the product quality level. I'm SICK of companies putting their flipping profit margins ahead of quality and morality. Most of this country's problems today can be traced back to GREED (on the part of politicians and on the part of the corporations that bribe them through lobbyists). Who cares about customer service when you can lie? Who cares about human beings or their opinions when sales are through the roof? Who cares about the country you live in when you're rich enough to buy your own dang island!?!? Clearly, I'm talking about most corporations, banks, etc., not just Apple here.
Given the comments Steve Jobs has made about Google and what not lately (arrogant, spiteful, mean, greedy type crap), I cannot imagine he's really all that grateful for his second chance at life some anonymous donor afforded him. After all, he got to the front of the line with deep pockets and a trip to Tennessee. Who values life when you think you can buy it? Who cares about anyone but yourself when you're "the man" and everyone worships the ground you walk on? The question is what good will any of that do any of these people when they die? If good deeds follow you onward, where does endless greed and cutthroat business tactics at the expense of people's jobs and livelihood get you??? I personally wouldn't want to find out.
I agree whit your premise. However, on the "Made in China" or wherever, ultimately the quality control is Apple's responsibility. Obviously they don't care enough, or maybe they themselves are the problem given how they try to ignore any problems, rather than rectify quality control issues. There are many products out there made in many parts of the world, including China, that work and work well. This is an Apple issue and Apple's alone.
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
People like to make all the excuses in the world for why we do business with Communist China that has about as much concern for democracy and human rights as Intel has for AMD (ok, that's a lie; it's a lot LESS actually). It's good for what? Business? No, it's good for certain corporations that save a lot of money in human labor costs that way. It isn't good for the country and it's sure as heck not good for the product quality level. I'm SICK of companies putting their flipping profit margins ahead of quality and morality. Most of this country's problems today can be traced back to GREED (on the part of politicians and on the part of the corporations that bribe them through lobbyists). Who cares about customer service when you can lie? Who cares about human beings or their opinions when sales are through the roof? Who cares about the country you live in when you're rich enough to buy your own dang island!?!? Clearly, I'm talking about most corporations, banks, etc., not just Apple here.
Given the comments Steve Jobs has made about Google and what not lately (arrogant, spiteful, mean, greedy type crap), I cannot imagine he's really all that grateful for his second chance at life some anonymous donor afforded him. After all, he got to the front of the line with deep pockets and a trip to Tennessee. Who values life when you think you can buy it? Who cares about anyone but yourself when you're "the man" and everyone worships the ground you walk on? The question is what good will any of that do any of these people when they die? If good deeds follow you onward, where does endless greed and cutthroat business tactics at the expense of people's jobs and livelihood get you??? I personally wouldn't want to find out.
Great Post! It's very adroit!
I think the more accurate term though would be "Assembled in the USA".
I have a PowerMac G4 867 Quicksilver and opening it up, I can see where some parts state "Made in China" (although in reality, a lot of it is actually from Taiwan).