Because apparently OS X is a sloppy mess that can't do anything multimedia-related correctly. I mean, audio processing? Seriously? What happens when you try to do some real computation on this thing, it just bursts into flames? OS X's inability to handle basic audio functionality certainly makes me wonder who's lazy and incompetent in the Adobe vs. Apple war...
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Audio Processing Causing Heat and Performance Issues for Nehalem Mac Pros
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Because apparently OS X is a sloppy mess that can't do anything multimedia-related correctly. I mean, audio processing? Seriously? What happens when you try to do some real computation on this thing, it just bursts into flames? OS X's inability to handle basic audio functionality certainly makes me wonder who's lazy and incompetent in the Adobe vs. Apple war...
Linux can encode better with Xine/VLCDLL.
Well, my 2,1 version of MacPro is perfectly capable of doing everything I want without a glitch. I was tossing up between a new one and upgrading it. I'm sort of glad I stuck to the old one. 3Ghz 8core 16GB Ram, ATI4870 3xSSD on Highpoint Rocket Raid 3510, I have to wonder how much more speed I need.
But I'm sure some Apple sales pitch will convince me that I need a new one.
Sorry I couldn't add anything useful to the actual topic.
As a late 2009 Mac Pro owner who works with audio on a daily basis, I'm glad this issue finally has made the front page of MacRumors and other top Mac sites... hopefully Apple will acknowledge and fix this soon.
IMO, recently there has been a noticeable decline in Apple's quality controls when it comes to their products - one of the expected effects when the board & CEO try to win all battles at the same time - becoming too big too fast, getting a bigger market share, slashing costs AND trying to become more and more profitable in the process.... but to be fair, until now I've still experienced a good service and support level (at least, better than its competitors).
So, from personal experience, I still trust AppleCare and Apple's willingness to come forward when things go wrong. And that's the least I expect from a company to which I've given so much business and loyalty - personally and through my clients... so come on, Apple: get your act together and fix this $3000+ machine!
IMO, recently there has been a noticeable decline in Apple's quality controls when it comes to their products - one of the expected effects when the board & CEO try to win all battles at the same time - becoming too big too fast, getting a bigger market share, slashing costs AND trying to become more and more profitable in the process.... but to be fair, until now I've still experienced a good service and support level (at least, better than its competitors).
So, from personal experience, I still trust AppleCare and Apple's willingness to come forward when things go wrong. And that's the least I expect from a company to which I've given so much business and loyalty - personally and through my clients... so come on, Apple: get your act together and fix this $3000+ machine!
Apple should drop their computers products and juts focus in their iPhones, ipad and iPods. This is their only focus in the last keynotes.
Well, my 2,1 version of MacPro is perfectly capable of doing everything I want without a glitch. I was tossing up between a new one and upgrading it. I'm sort of glad I stuck to the old one. 3Ghz 8core 16GB Ram, ATI4870 3xSSD on Highpoint Rocket Raid 3510, I have to wonder how much more speed I need.
But I'm sure some Apple sales pitch will convince me that I need a new one.
Sorry I couldn't add anything useful to the actual topic.
But all the power can be used more efficiently.
I'm not bashing Apple, I just wish Cocoa wasn't limited by a shoddy kernel... and quicktime.
Huge difference, oh duplicitous one:
Those invisible text files on OS X can be deleted with no repercussions to the operation of the OS.
Conversely, delete, hack, alter, or attempt to extract the relevant settings for one particular application from the legacy-laiden repository called The Registry, and you're up sh*t's creek.
No comparison, speaking of misleading.
No there is no comparison in that light. (Windows did have text files for settings, back in the 90s, they were called INI files. Its moved on since then.) However, why would you be editing the registry in the first place? The common user, which you seem to be, does not have a need or even know about the registry, settings they need to change would be in the Control panel. The registry is for techs, who have no problem editing it. If you played in the registry and got burned, then yes you should stick to what you know.
The user has nothing to do with it. All applications mess around with the registry. The Hive can decay dramatically and the user wouldn't of even touched Regedit.
Yes, as MorphingDragon has pointed out, even through the innocent act of 'updating' apps, corruption, and version conflict are common vulnerabilities for The Registry.
One can apologize for its frailty all one wants - playing with a house of cards is no longer a desirable option for my needs.
am just glad that I bought my mac pro in 2008! sheesh, not only were the 2009 models way overpriced, but they have all these problems
Lets hope apple fixes them soon
Lets hope apple fixes them soon
Someone should write a letter to board memebers.
This only hurts Apple when it adopts the all-to-common approach of pretending an issue doesn't exist or is "normal" in the face of substantial evidence to the contrary. Their customers are smart enough to know that either: the Applecare representatives, who are relaying the corporate position, are simply lying to them (and that just trashes your credibility: what else are you willing to brazenly lie about?) or this is an awful "intended" design and Apple products perhaps are not so well engineered as they once were (the old G4 PowerMac jet engine model excluded). And of course in the case of a MacPro, there's going to be a fair number of audio users. The fact that this isn't an issue when booting another OS is pretty good (if not damning) evidence that they have a software issue to address. If Apple has decided to operate like a fly-by-night electronics store on a corner in the Bronx and say things for perceived short term gain and long term loss (I'd argue short and long term loss), I would hope that someone would raise this with their board of directors through a letter. Nothing gets things addressed in a corporation, really addressed, faster than a member of the board asking senior management about it.
This only hurts Apple when it adopts the all-to-common approach of pretending an issue doesn't exist or is "normal" in the face of substantial evidence to the contrary. Their customers are smart enough to know that either: the Applecare representatives, who are relaying the corporate position, are simply lying to them (and that just trashes your credibility: what else are you willing to brazenly lie about?) or this is an awful "intended" design and Apple products perhaps are not so well engineered as they once were (the old G4 PowerMac jet engine model excluded). And of course in the case of a MacPro, there's going to be a fair number of audio users. The fact that this isn't an issue when booting another OS is pretty good (if not damning) evidence that they have a software issue to address. If Apple has decided to operate like a fly-by-night electronics store on a corner in the Bronx and say things for perceived short term gain and long term loss (I'd argue short and long term loss), I would hope that someone would raise this with their board of directors through a letter. Nothing gets things addressed in a corporation, really addressed, faster than a member of the board asking senior management about it.
LOL don't be stupid. My mac Pro can play mp3, while watching hd videos on quicktime and using imove or playing a game at the same time without probs.
The real problems is this: playing a mp3 should not heat the cpu or consume like anything in cpu.
Cmon OSX is very efficient, this is a software issue who should be fixed. And we must report this to Apple fix this! Because it is important, but saying OSX is sloppy... lol.
Snow Leopard has been very nice for me. I don't understand why there's so many complaints about it. I have Snow Leopard running on 3 Macs and I haven't run into any problems. I like it a lot. It's less buggy than Leopard for sure.
Before we speak on Apple's ethics and lawful obligations.... Do you realize that this thread is full of people giving their comments about this case however missing one key element. Nobody here nor in this article have stated they attempted to have their problem looked at by bringing their computers in for service? Essentially, the few people actually posting here that are actually experiencing this seem to be waiting at home for Apple to come to them via a software update. Instead, why not treat this like a problem with your car: bring it back to the dealer.
Anyone out here who "brought it back to the dealer", please share with us your experience!
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
People like to make all the excuses in the world for why we do business with Communist China that has about as much concern for democracy and human rights as Intel has for AMD (ok, that's a lie; it's a lot LESS actually). It's good for what? Business? No, it's good for certain corporations that save a lot of money in human labor costs that way. It isn't good for the country and it's sure as heck not good for the product quality level. I'm SICK of companies putting their flipping profit margins ahead of quality and morality. Most of this country's problems today can be traced back to GREED (on the part of politicians and on the part of the corporations that bribe them through lobbyists). Who cares about customer service when you can lie? Who cares about human beings or their opinions when sales are through the roof? Who cares about the country you live in when you're rich enough to buy your own dang island!?!? Clearly, I'm talking about most corporations, banks, etc., not just Apple here.
Given the comments Steve Jobs has made about Google and what not lately (arrogant, spiteful, mean, greedy type crap), I cannot imagine he's really all that grateful for his second chance at life some anonymous donor afforded him. After all, he got to the front of the line with deep pockets and a trip to Tennessee. Who values life when you think you can buy it? Who cares about anyone but yourself when you're "the man" and everyone worships the ground you walk on? The question is what good will any of that do any of these people when they die? If good deeds follow you onward, where does endless greed and cutthroat business tactics at the expense of people's jobs and livelihood get you??? I personally wouldn't want to find out.
Very well said bro.
My PPC PowerMac Digital Audio says "Made In The USA" on it. It doesn't get hot when playing MP3s or MP4s or Quicktime Video, BTW. It runs my whole house audio/video system and is on 24/7 for the most part. My MBP (the one with the supposed potential Nvidia issue) says "Made In CHINA" on it as do ALL current Macs. Coincidence?
My 10-year-old Sawtooth G4 (admittedly upgraded to a 1.4GHz processor) still runs large Pro Tools sessions like a champion. Made in USA.
My early 2008 8 x 2.8GHz Mac Pro crushes it in every way. Made in China.
I'd say coincidence.
I've owned 12 Macs over the past decade, from jellybean G3 iMacs and iBooks to G4 PowerMacs and PowerBooks, to Intel MacBook Pros and Mac Pros. The only repair I've ever needed for any of these was a broken battery latch on a PowerBook.