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For engineering????

For stick drawings, connecting lines...

There's nothing innovative about AutoCAD and Autodesk have not innovated much in the last 2 releases. they simply consolidated the features from acquisitions rather than developing in house.

And the user interface changes are not innovations, they are simply inherent objects from the Windows XP/Vista/7 environment... look deeply into it...you will see... All the same commands are there... just tizzied up with icons and the ribbon icon arrangements...

They want people onto their acquired Revit platform rather that AutoCAD [2D nor 3D]

AutoCAD with touch interface is simply redressing to attract a new market.

I have been using AutoCAD since R 2.5 in additon to a multitude of other engineering platforms since 1985.


I more or less agree with you. And mostly, by no means do I see this as a huge leap or a great innovation. This will not substitute my Windows desktop computer loaded with numerous CAD software (not limited to but mostly Autodesk stuff) and structural analysis software. But the ability to take with me on the field on my Macbook (without dealing with bootcamp) and/or iPad some of the work I do on my dektop PC is... awesome!
 
Beta testers....

As a registered tester of this data... it is a very clean, smooth, and mac-like interface. Very impressive bit of software on the mac... even running on a macbook air (rev c).....

that is probably as much as I can say.
 
For engineering????

For stick drawings, connecting lines...

There's nothing innovative about AutoCAD and Autodesk have not innovated much in the last 2 releases. they simply consolidated the features from acquisitions rather than developing in house.

And the user interface changes are not innovations, they are simply inherent objects from the Windows XP/Vista/7 environment... look deeply into it...you will see... All the same commands are there... just tizzied up with icons and the ribbon icon arrangements...

They want people onto their acquired Revit platform rather that AutoCAD [2D nor 3D]

AutoCAD with touch interface is simply redressing to attract a new market.

I have been using AutoCAD since R 2.5 in additon to a multitude of other engineering platforms since 1985.

Isn't Revit mainly for Architecture?

So what if AutoCAD isn't "innovative" it works and it does the job well. You do know a lot of people don't need/want their schematics/plans/parts to be rendered/modeled in 3D.
 
Autodesk already announced they are bringing ALL their creative softwares to Mac OS X, including 3DMax.

Link, article, reference... something! Please! Haven't heard those news!

I couldn't care less about Autocad... its an outdated software from way back when! But we need REVIT, max and "the like" ported! So any kind of reference for that comment would be greatly appreciated!

CAN'T WAIT to get the hell out of the WINDOWS world... Will be the highlight of my year when that day comes!! :D
 
NOt that excited. Ill get excited whren Rhino/grasshopper comes to the mac in 6 months. Autocad is dead and old news. Its not a 3d modelling program.

An industry standard development tool with over 40% market share is 'dead'?! Really?! It's a cad package, it does computer aided design - the clue is in the name.
 
Isn't Revit mainly for Architecture?

So what if AutoCAD isn't "innovative" it works and it does the job well. You do know a lot of people don't need/want their schematics/plans/parts to be rendered/modeled in 3D.

That is just SUCH an old grumpy man comment!! ;)

"I have been doing my drawings with a pen and a ruler for 50 years now, so why would I need a computer!!" :D

C'mon... only people that don't know what BIM and other productive 3D design tools like Revit (not talking about visualization tools like Max, Sketchup and the like!!) can actually do, and how they work, are still content with Autocad! Anyone involved in building design, being an architect/ingeneer/landscape/you neam it, would benefit GREATLY from using BIM tools!!

So to answer you question... No, Revit isn't just for architecture! The day we are all connected as buildingpartners, working on a single 3D file of the building/design, is the day we can do greater architecture/design, highten cooperation, lower costs and spendings, troubleshoot like we have only hoped of, plan logistics to shorten building time and I could go on and on!
 
I wonder if this means we'll be seeing 3DSMAX on a Mac as well, soon hopefully ;)

Hmmm i hope not Laughs... I hate that brick a brack max as i have to use it at work after using Maya for years at my last jobs max feels like a toy in comparison. ;-P
 
I wish Corel ported their Graphics Suite :(

I'm very glad they haven't - a truly awful suite of software. I'm no fan of CS5 but Corel is positively amateur and I dread the days when I inherit designs created in it.
 
That is just SUCH an old grumpy man comment!! ;)

"I have been doing my drawings with a pen and a ruler for 50 years now, so why would I need a computer!!" :D

C'mon... only people that don't know what BIM and other productive 3D design tools like Revit (not talking about visualization tools like Max, Sketchup and the like!!) can actually do, and how they work, are still content with Autocad! Anyone involved in building design, being an architect/ingeneer/landscape/you neam it, would benefit GREATLY from using BIM tools!!

So to answer you question... No, Revit isn't just for architecture! The day we are all connected as buildingpartners, working on a single 3D file of the building/design, is the day we can do greater architecture/design, highten cooperation, lower costs and spendings, troubleshoot like we have only hoped of, plan logistics to shorten building time and I could go on and on!

Unfortunately, IT departments and engineering businesses tend to be run by lazy/grumpy old men who simply won't change. "This is the way it's always been". At least by having this software on a mac, there's a chance some of them might switch from windows. I come up against it all the time "you must use {insert software title} because it's what we've always used, it's an industry 'standard'". Drives me crazy!

edit: latest example just came through via an email, a potential client won't use us to develop his web site as he's seen we use Macs, and therefore his web site won't run on windows. Are people still this stupid?
 
This is great news even if AutoCad is ancient. It is the fact they are moving to Mac. It is symbolic. The day I look forward to is when they announce they are discontinuing the Windows version due to ...." lack of interest, too many support issues and well, who knows how long Windows will be here for".....
 
Max on OSX? Just incredible.....Adesk used to hate Macs.

If they add XSI as well and more workstation graphics cards become available, well that might be a game changer.
 
edit: latest example just came through via an email, a potential client won't use us to develop his web site as he's seen we use Macs, and therefore his web site won't run on windows. Are people still this stupid?

Yes some of the Windows users are. I have heard the same thing regarding web development. However, I think they are rapidly becoming a small minority as opposed to the large majority they once were.
 
Always great to see more Autodesk content appearing on OSX.

But yeah, I'd rather it had been SoftImage|XSI... or 3DS Max. That way I might actually use my SI license.

AD have their flaws, but they seem to be genuinely behind Apple. Can't complain about that.

Max on OSX? Just incredible.....Adesk used to hate Macs.

If they add XSI as well and more workstation graphics cards become available, well that might be a game changer.
 
Goodbye bootcamp taking up my precious space!
Goodbye VMware Windows 2003 for being a clunky solution.

AutoCad, welcome back to the Mac!

(ironically I dont care much for AutoCad these days since I switched career paths.. but oh well!)


edit: Oh and for all those who think this is not significant, think again. AutoCAD is made by AutoDesk, the same folk who also owns Revit, Studio Max and other packages. This is just the beginning people!
 
What is that all about?

Yay! One more stake through Windows' heart! Now I just need MS Visual Studio or a like that can make C++ programmes for school...

Apple has XCode which can do C++ just fine.
Apple supports directly LLVM and CLANG
You can build your own GCC if you want.
Or install a cross compiler.

If you are involved in a program that teaches Windows programming in the guise of C++ realize you won't be prepared for the real world if that world is outside of MicroSoft.
 
Well the whole AutoCad, maybe not, for me it is viewing files that is important.

Why do people need AutoCad on iPhone & iPad?

Honestly I wouldn't buy the current iPad for this as it simply doesn't have enough RAM. But what I want is a vendor supported CAD file viewer at the very least. If it can do more than view files all the better. I'm not to sure about the viability of doing engineering drawings on iPad but marking them up would be very valuable.

Especially when servicing projects in the field. The features that make iPad handy for many tasks these day are the same features that will make it valuable for viewing CAD files. Given that iPad is fast enough to permit scrolling 2D drawings around and zoom in and out reasonably fast it would be enormously helpful. In fact in some cases the ability to view CAD files on the iPhone could be advantageous.

Dave
 
Well, it's about time AutoCAD was back on the Mac. It's where I started with it. Can't wait.
 
And he would be right!

As Steve would put it: "You're going to the wrong University" :D

Back in the day, we had Windows NT4/Solaris dual boot Fujitsus. The C lessons
were taught exclusively on Solaris/emacs...
I was actually going to say the same thing. There is truly something wrong with a university that uses Visual Studio to teach C++. Not that Visual Studio is bad, it is possibly the best IDE out there, but if your goal is to teach students computer science it is to Vendor specific.

Dave
 
How will AutoCAD display performance be with the absence of any pro video cards in any Apple hardware crippled iGizmos and iMirrors?
No Quadros or FirePros that Autocad needs to perform properly would be a serious handicap, I would think. :confused:
 
If you are involved in a program that teaches Windows programming in the guise of C++ realize you won't be prepared for the real world if that world is outside of MicroSoft.

I think what he meant was that he needed the executables to work on Windows, not that he's doing actual Windows programming. He needs MingW for OS X to build his stuff :

http://crossgcc.rts-software.org/doku.php
 
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