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BBC Documentary Claims Apple Fails to Protect Chinese Factory Workers
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I'm not. I'm saying they almost always get a pass from the media while Apple somehow takes responsibility for the entire industry.
Not false, Apple just blatantly couldn't care less as it means higher $$$$ profits for them, just how do you think the capitalist western world works? Stop being such an
apologist.So long as we are all comfortable knowing our gadgets and products are made at the expense of others all is fine, but don't try to turn a blind eye to it all.
Remember "300 employees at Apple factory threaten suicide"? That was because they were afraid to lose their jobs, when Microsoft cut XBox production.
I don't see what the BBC shop has to do with it. They sell merchandise related to their public service broadcasting remit.
There is no advertising or endorsement on the BBC in the UK, be it radio, TV or the iPlayer. I can't comment for anything outside our borders. The BBC also cannot commercially endorse products. They use fake brands in the drama programming, even the cooking programs remove the labels of products or cover them up.
Every single statement you make is totally wrong...to the extent virtually the opposite is true. The only thing that does not need a TV license, ironically is listening to broadcast radio. Every activity you state needs a license...period
I think Apple puts themselves in the firing line because the CEO likes to bang on and on about human rights and how much he cares about the world. So the hypocrisy is what gets people.
Jeff Bezos/Amazon are pretty open about their appalling/draconian work conditions but since Bezos has never claimed to be anything but a creepy slave driver there's less controversy.
ETA: Macrumors was pretty sympathetic to the workers in the Amazon lawsuit where they were not paid for the lengthy security screenings. All this sympathy flies out the window when it's's? Okay.
Jeff Bezos/Amazon are pretty open about their appalling/draconian work conditions but since Bezos has never claimed to be anything but a creepy slave driver there's less controversy.
ETA: Macrumors was pretty sympathetic to the workers in the Amazon lawsuit where they were not paid for the lengthy security screenings. All this sympathy flies out the window when it's
's? Okay.
If you read the article, you'd have seen that it is just the usual nonsense. For example the "above average suicide rate at Foxconn", which at the worst times was about four times better than the average in the USA, and has since improved dramatically due to the company taken action.
Yes, violations have been found. **** happens. What also happens is that Apple pushes very hard on these companies to improve things. And makes more careful checks. Which means more violations will be found. If you found 100 problems last year, work hard to improve things, check twice as hard for problems and again find 100 problems, then things have actually improved!
They (Apple) also said that their work is never ending in this regard, as noted in the Documentary. They are making statements about it because they are in the spotlight and as a result they are trying to do something about it. When they tell people that they are doing something about it then people like you are saying that they are being 'pious'. So whatever they do they will never be without criticism. That's fine and that's the role of the press. Apple didn't say that they have solved the issue completely. I doubt they have the ability to control the policies of their suppliers beyond a certain point. Name one other company that is as transparent about these issues as Apple. Just try and be objective.
That kind of argument did always strike me as the vilest argument possible. "If you don't like it then go away"? The answer should always be "**** you. We'll change it, and if you don't like the change, then _you_ can leave the country".
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Apple posts a report of about 20 pages every year. Every single year since 2007, I think.
What I do know is Apple will most likely report record iPhone sales and record profits this quarter. And I'll bet a good chunk of those sales are coming from the very people that condemn Apple for its manufacturing policies.
Strawman argument if their ever was one....
So post the pages on here from this report, and then post the proof of it actually happening. Or don't make your false comments on here.
It's not condemning, it's recognizing that Apple can do better.
Are others worse? Yes perhaps. Does that mean that Apple should stoop as low as them? No.
You could turn that on its head and ask what proof you have that Apple aren't making these improvements?
Not false, Apple just blatantly couldn't care less as it means higher $$$$ profits for them, just how do you think the capitalist western world works? Stop being such an
So long as we are all comfortable knowing our gadgets and products are made at the expense of others all is fine, but don't try to turn a blind eye to it all.
You said: "As said it is APPLE who makes these claims and yet none of them are being met."
To me that translates to Apple is lying. If that's the case then one would assume the BBC is working to make sure those false claims are removed from Apple's documentations and Apple's website.
Since when is the burden of proof on the accused? Isn't it innocent until proven guilty? If you or the BBC or whoever think Apple is lying here then it's up to YOU to prove it.
Of course, then nothing would make any sense.
If I told you that Apple is secretly building an army with Foxconn to invade Uganda. The burden of proof is on me.
How can one prove that Apple is not secretly planning on invading Uganda?
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Dude, read the previous posts... He's asking gnasher to prove his statement. Not Apple...
What you are not getting us that Apple claims to inspect these factories 100s of times a year and do not "see" any of these issues. They produce their social and environmental reports on their supply chain and everything' is apparently fine and within their code of conduct, when clearly it is impossible for them not to know the truth or see what a couple of journalists saw in a few weeks. It is clear that they are culpable in hiding the truth or ignoring the reality.
The problem there is that its not really a West vs East standard but rather a moral standard. We are all human beings no matter our creed. So that speaks volumes of China and its government in how much they value there own people over economic benefit.
Apple isnt using those regulations to their benefit rather they are simply using the power of currency exchange to their advantage.
How can one prove that Apple is not secretly planning on invading Uganda?
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No one could prove that, they're definitely planning on invading Uganda