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This article isn't entirely clear HOW it will be integrated; i.e., as a stand-alone app or part of iTunes or Music app. Does iTunes Radio get relaunched as Beats? I just can't see Apple packaging 3 music apps with iOS. Sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption. That's the epitome of "unsimple."

If you've imported your own TV show (like from your DVDs) into iTunes lately and tried to set the "common" metadata items (show, episode name, season, episode, year, artwork) you'll know that 3 music apps is nothing. They are just getting started.
 
Just another 17.5 MB less that a person with a 16GB iPhone will have...
 
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My god - between update issues and bloat-ware Apple is becoming like Microsoft. If it were optional, then fine. Or if it were part of the music app that did not take up too much space, then fine.

Besides I still fail to understand how Beats would be any different than listening to specialist internet radio (which is free).
 
Oh great...:mad:

Streaming = someone else's straw in MY wallet in return for me getting to pick from today's crappy music.
Pretty clear you have no idea what music is available on the service. You are not forced to buy. Streaming is much better deal than "ownership" to me. I have a 45GB music library that I hardly listen to most of it anymore, Genius mixes mostly. First Spotify now Beats subscription for $99 year I can listen and download as much as I want. For the cost of what 10 or so CD's, that most have a few good songs on? Not to mention time saved to find new music and quickly decide if I want to hear more from that artist. All of this gnashing of teeth when we don't have any details is amusing.
 
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I love iOS, and upon getting a new iDevice I make an Apple folder and throw in all the Apple apps, then use my preferred third-party apps.

I do this as well, but it would be annoying for 16GB iPhone users since it takes up more space on their phone. I'm sure the Beats app doesn't take up a ton of space, but still. As I'm sure will be the case, I will probably just place the Beats app in the Apple folder I create. It certainly would be nice if Apple gave us iOS users a 7 or 14 day free trial with the app. Although I'm pretty set on using Spotify, so I doubt I would switch.
 
My god - between update issues and bloat-ware Apple is becoming like Microsoft. If it were optional, then fine. Or if it were part of the music app that did not take up too much space, then fine.

Besides I still fail to understand how Beats would be any different than listening to specialist internet radio (which is free).

I actually think the best way forward is to do away with iTunes, split the functions into various apps, and focus on music as a single purpose:

In addition to its original mission of delivering a world-class music experience to our desks, iTunes became burdened over the years with increased duties that left it bloated and confused. It is a music store, an app store, a video library, a television service supplement/replacement, a movie theater, a university book store, a podcast repository, a device manager, a radio, and more.

Whether in the form of name-change or a full re-write, iTunes as we know it should be retired. The various stores and content should be distributed to correlating apps (creating a few on the Mac that exist today in iOS), leaving Apple with a single application with a single purpose - music.

Free of legacy cruft, this new app can be lightweight and focused on delivering the best music discovery and listening experience ever offered. It also presents an opportunity to unify the experience across platforms and live under a new, modernized brand geared for the next decade.

- Apple's Next Generation Music Service

I think people would get a lot more mileage out of lightweight app used only for music.
 
Sure hope I can delete it when it comes...

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What I said up there in bold. Don't want it. That said, iOS 8.1.1 been pretty good so far on newer hardware...
 
Why not just replace iTunes Radio in the Music app with this? We don't need another bundled app that can't be deleted.

Agree. We don't need 2 iOs-ish music streaming options. Make 1 that incorporates the best of both, or something, whatever.
 
This seems more like a move aimed at uneducated investors rather than having any chance to take off.

People want to pay a small fee per month to play any song whenever they want on any device as well as options for curated stations or stations based on their likes.

That's why Spotify took off and and iTunes continues to decline. Beats was never popular because its simply another Pandora which while before Spotify was the best option, now, all of these models fail. Why pay for Beats, Pandora, or iTunes Match, when I can get Spotify and have the best of both worlds. On Demand playing and curated playing.

Until Beats offers on-demand option it is destined to fail. Presumably it doesn't and won't offer that because then there would be far less profit for Apple. Spotify who does that model for instance has never made an actual profit. So maybe Apple hopes that eventually their business will collapse since it's not sustainable and then people will go to the next best thing which would presumably be Beats.
This whole post is one big fail.:rolleyes:
 
I'm really tired of those ********* bundled "apps"...

There should be an option to hide the "Camera" icon from the Springboard (you can access it from the control center anyway), "Maps" if you don't use it, "Videos", "Stockings", "Game Center", "Kiosk", "iTunes Store" and a BIIIIG excetera... especially that really useless "TIPS" app... "FaceTime", "Calculator", etc. etc. etc.

It also should be illegal to include Beats Music inside iOS... it's not fair competition (just like the EU did before with Microsoft and its Internet Explorer browser integrated into Windows)...

Sounds like you should go android.
 
Happy for this

I'm bucking the trend here and saying I'm glad it's being more tightly integrated into iOS. We subscribe to the Beats family plan and love it. For $3.00 per phone ($15.00 per month) it's an incredible value.
 
I do this as well, but it would be annoying for 16GB iPhone users since it takes up more space on their phone. I'm sure the Beats app doesn't take up a ton of space, but still. As I'm sure will be the case, I will probably just place the Beats app in the Apple folder I create. It certainly would be nice if Apple gave us iOS users a 7 or 14 day free trial with the app. Although I'm pretty set on using Spotify, so I doubt I would switch.

There is a trial available now.
 
Agree. We don't need 2 iOs-ish music streaming options. Make 1 that incorporates the best of both, or something, whatever.

My thinking is that Apple should re-position iTunes Radio as the free radio component of the streaming service. Doing so still leaves you with iTunes, which they could do more with as well to better differentiate:

Looking at the breakdown above, there are ample opportunities to convert a customer from one type to another by optimizing the offerings to create more distinct feature sets and communicating the benefits accordingly:

  • Apple Hi-Fi is the best way to purchase, own, and enjoy high-fidelity audio
  • Apple Music is the best way to experience your favorite artists, albums, and playlists anywhere, anytime
  • Apple Radio is the best way to discover new music for free

Establishing tiers of "free discovery", "relatively cheap freedom", and "high-quality audio for the discerning ear" presents clear paths that align well with the usage patterns of most users and offer enough value to entice a free listener to convert to a paying customer. Previously a user would have to leap from free iTunes Radio to paying ten-or-more dollars per album. With a streaming option, Apple can lower the barriers to entry with a subscription model.

- Apple's Next Generation Music Service
 
In addition to Beats they should bundle in some unremovable U2 ringtones that you have to pay to unlock. Obviously I have what it takes to be the EVP of Clever in the post-SJ era at :apple:
 
So I guess this means I might as well go install it now, so it stops asking me every other friggin' time I go into the App Store?
 
Find my Friends doesn't come with the iPhone, and Passbook is crucial for Apple Pay.

This app better not be a part of iOS9, of all the bundled apps I've used:

phone
Calendar
Messages
Photos & Camera
passbook for Apple Pay
Maps
iTunes & App Stores
weather
Notes
Safari
Mail

I never use:
Stocks
Game Center
health
Newsstand
Reminders
Videos
Voice memos
Compass
Tips

And if it makes it Beats

You're missing out on some great apps. Health is on the way, I will give you that but at the moment it will track several things. Reminders is used almost daily around here as a checklist and shared so that we can add to the list. Shopping for instance, we have a grocery list that the family can add to so that when we hit the grocery store its a quick trip to pick up the items on the checklist. Compass is also a level. Not sure it you knew that but its pretty good for checking the level of things when you otherwise don't have one with you. Tips is like coming here to learn. Overall they should let me decide but I have learned a few things from tips. I only learned last night that you can touch and hold and edited photo to see the before and after. I never knew that.

The point is, many of us use the applications installed on the phone. Don't discount the installed apps without first looking to see if they can make life easier for you in some way. They are installed so why not see if they can work for you somehow.
 
Is there any OS that does not include bloat? Unless you root your android phone you cannot delete: sheets, slides, google+, gmail, play music, playbooks, etc.
 
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