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The ability of some of us/you Mac/Apple/Steve Jobs fantatics to white-wash over any problem is rediculous.

Jeez folks. (If this is all true) Then this is a major let-down. PERIOD.

I love my macs, and have for years and years (well, minus a brief period i had a Starmax Clone) but come on...

This is simply a joke if there are no updates for a year.

And the yoke is on all our Apple-Die-Hard-Fan faces.

All the big-wigs at Apple INCLUDING Steve Jobs owe us an apology.

We fanatics keep the buzz about Apple alive, we buy the terribly slow updated machines over and over eventhough we are bitching all the way through...

I have 2 top end pc's already, so I am not gonna troll about leaving the mac platform. But I am NOT AT ALL surprised or even upset when others do since they need a machine that has been released within the last 6 months.

Apple is NOT doing things right if they are a computer company that's only claim to fame is an mp3 player and music store right now. The 9 month old buzz about "G5" is loooooong dead in the tech world.

Hello?!!! It's supposed to be a computer company for crying out loud...

Apple get off your butts and focus on computers again. :(
 
Well to tell you the truth i don't really mind that we have to wait until June/July for updates because then more than likely it will be 3Ghz, and the 2 Ghz is more than powerful enough for any user at the moment.
I do believe though that it will be a bad idea to update the entire product cos to tell you the truth that would be straight up stupid because then that would take away all the limelight from each product, and then would result in less sales of all products in general.
So my prediction is new updates from powerbooks in the next few weeks to 1.5Ghz and emacs.
There might be iMac G5 updates aswell, cos then they could have a prosumer expo(powermacs) and a consumer expo(imacs).

Well that is what i have to say, you can agree and disagree but only time will tell :confused: :confused:
 
This may not mean anything

I think everyone might be worrying too much. This may only mean no new displays for a while, but have nothing to do with the G5s. The promotion says: "buy any PowerMac G5..." They still could release new G5s soon, they just might want to get rid of some of the displays. As for the memory promotion being extended, I don't think that has anything to do with upgrades.
 
a17inchFuture said:
Hello, maybe you havent been paying attention, but November was the last time they updated . . . .

Why is it that people who whine about PM updates always neglect to realize that their line is the most recent to have been updated?

I am sorry guys, but get a grip. When the 15 inch PB was introduced (the same middle ground sort of introduction as the Nov 1.8 release) we still had a ten month wait, and that was just for crappy speed bumps.
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What the hell are you talking about ? The dual 1.8 ??? You can't really call that an update ! Its an enhancement. Period. :mad:
 
Tricks up his sleeve?

Call me crazy, but here goes; SJ said up to 3 gHz in a year. He really didn't specify if it was a fiscal year, an actual year, etc. But, what if we've missed the point? Say WWDC comes in a couple of months, and SJ is doing his keynote address, "As promised, we're introducing the G5 3 gHz...as the low-end." Is this totally off base?

What if the high end goes all the way up to 3.6 gHz? Will this satisfy anyone? I'm guessing if they also add on highly coveted tech, will this also not be enough? Knowing that SJ likes a 'Wow-factor', what would happen if the Rev.B's include the following:

12x DVD-R drive
------or even-------
Dual layer, 8.-whatever gig DVD-R

With these drives already being hinted at on TechTV, it really wouldn't surprise me, if these type drives are introduced in the next revision G5's.
 
G5 Update

It would be nice if they only updated the Power Mac G5 once a year. In the meantime, you can still upgrade it yourself with a new video card, more memory, bigger display, another 2nd hard drive, possibly a 8x DVD burner or a double sided DVD burner. I would prefer they upgrade the G5 when they it 3 Ghz anyways. Currently, it is easy to spend 3 grand on memory and hard drive, and video upgrades and it will feel like a new machine again.

I always like to purchase my Mac when it just comes out so I don't have to wait until the product is near it's product lifecycle. I would hate to purchase a new Mac and have it updated within 2 weeks after purchasing it with a newer model.
 
a17inchFuture said:
Hello, maybe you havent been paying attention, but November was the last time they updated . . . .

Why is it that people who whine about PM updates always neglect to realize that their line is the most recent to have been updated?

I am sorry guys, but get a grip. When the 15 inch PB was introduced (the same middle ground sort of introduction as the Nov 1.8 release) we still had a ten month wait, and that was just for crappy speed bumps.
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um, that doesn't count as an update. Neither the top nor bottom of the line changed. All they did was change the processor on the tower in the middle. No new ports, designs, options, nothing. And update usually means that it's possible to buy a better machine than before, which was not the case here, as the dual 2.0 Ghz had been and continued to be the best available. It's a revision, certainly not an update.
 
Waragainstsleep said:
Factor in a few more months for Apple to properly test liquid-cooling systems, and you're there.....
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They've already been tested and guess what? They have problems!

The last message I received from "The Steve" via downlink through my aluminum foil pyramid-shaped hat was PM upgrades on March 30 -- minus any liquid-cooling features.

If that date is wrong I'm going to be a v-e-r-y disappointed PM fan. "So what," The Steve says. "It's my ball, so it's my game."

And he's right. He may be going about it all wrong in our joint opinions, but he's still right for his own reasons. And one of those reasons may just be due to the hardware problems they've been having resulting in too much inventory remaining -- more than they originally forecast.

Which would mean I'll just have to wait some more...which I will do, grudgingly.
 
CmdrLaForge said:
What the hell are you talking about ? The dual 1.8 ??? You can't really call that an update ! Its an enhancement. Period. :mad:
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I don't see how you can say doubling the CPU capacity of the middle G5 is merely an enhancement.
 
To me, this says new PBs soon, 3 Ghz PMs & Displays @ WWDC

This promotion is limited to two things: G5 PMs and 23" Displays. If they were trying to push the display exclusively, it would apply to any Mac, not just the G5. If they were trying to push the G5 exclusively, it would apply to all displays. This does not say to me that no updates are coming, it says that no PM or Display updates are coming, and that the Powerbooks will see a revision in the near future.

My logic is this: Aside from the Powermac (and XServe, which also qualifies), the Powerbook is the only other line that would likely be sold with a second display (iMacs, iBooks & eMacs don't support 2nd Display, except for mirroring) and yet it is specifically excluded from this offer.

Add to that the previous rumor stating that G5s would be the only line not suffering from a shortage in the supply chain, which suggests that the iMacs, eMacs & iBooks will be gobbled up by education and the Powerbook will be a new line that won't ship for a while.

Powerbooks are the next major update. Powermacs will rev at 3 Ghz at WWDC so Steve can keep his word. Displays will debut alongside.
 
QCassidy352 said:
um, that doesn't count as an update. Neither the top nor bottom of the line changed. All they did was change the processor on the tower in the middle. No new ports, designs, options, nothing. And update usually means that it's possible to buy a better machine than before, which was not the case here, as the dual 2.0 Ghz had been and continued to be the best available. It's a revision, certainly not an update.
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The min/max G5 didn't change, no. But the middle is now nearly twice as fast as it was for anything capable of running on >1 CPU - and so would apply if merely running more than one app.

If the iMac suddenly came out as, say a 1.5 GHz G5, then I suppose that's merely a revision, since, of course, the best Mac would've stayed at dual-2 GHz.

Yes, there should be better/faster/cheaper ones by now, of course! But you can't say going from (1) 1.8 GHz G5 to (2) 1.8 GHz G5's isn't an update. If they came out with a quad 2.0, would that qualify? It's the same principle.
 
Thank you

Thank god, I can finally purchase and be happy once the March 30th milestone passes with no upgrades, When nothing happened in January at Macworld, I logged on to all of the Rumor mill sites and created my own personal hell following endless rumors. The next date and the next and the next.
 
This probably explains why Apple has the "pro-G5" propaganda on their home page. They need to "remind" everyone how great the G5 is, to keep their sales up until June.

I hope the rumor is true that WWDC will release 3ghz models. At least it will be worth the wait. Probable line-up is 2.6 2.8 3.0, right? That's the bright side at least.

Oh well.
 
iAtom said:
I think everyone might be worrying too much. This may only mean no new displays for a while, but have nothing to do with the G5s. The promotion says: "buy any PowerMac G5..." They still could release new G5s soon, they just might want to get rid of some of the displays. As for the memory promotion being extended, I don't think that has anything to do with upgrades.
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I hope you are right. Maybe only the displays are delayes. Because without a faster PM I don't see the iMac with a G5.
 
BornAgainMac said:
It would be nice if they only updated the Power Mac G5 once a year.
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No, it wouldn't. That causes an initial spike in demand when they're released, which results in shipping delays, followed by low sales for the rest of the year. Apple must either release incremental updates every 6 months or so, or drop prices periodically.
 
Thor74 said:
Apple get off your butts and focus on computers again. :(
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My thoughts exactly. Like I said before in a different thread: I want to see more Mac users, not iPod-wielding PC users!
 
Photorun said:
DHM, said it before, I'll say it again, please find a pro peecee forum if you seemingly hate Mac so much. Not sure why you're even here... like, ever! Your icon looks like a troll, is that coincidence?
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it is actually quite enjoyable to watch trolls and their lame attempts at belittling our platform of choice. Because we know in our heart that they are the ones on the inferior platform...
 
This might work well for me. I bought the 1.25 Powerbook about a month ago to use on my last semester on college. Now I can wait until the semester ends, and sell this baby in a relatively new condition for 2000-2100$ and wait for the new revision to come out. I will be able to sell it for this price and not loose much money because I used the Programmers Academic discount. If a new revision was out, than the value of my pbook will sink rather fast.

I guess some bad news can be good for some people.
 
jsw said:
If the iMac suddenly came out as, say a 1.5 GHz G5, then I suppose that's merely a revision, since, of course, the best Mac would've stayed at dual-2 GHz.
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Obviously this would not be "merely a revision" because the fastest iMac right now is only 1.25 G4, a bump to a better processor and more mghz would be a huge update....you can't compare two different products and say one was not updated because those stats already existed in another. This example did not help prove your point. The dual 1.8 was not an update to the PowerMac G5. It could be called an update to the middle model of the PowerMacs.
 
iMac G5

I would say they could use up stock of 970 chips in the next iMac, but they'd be too hot unless run much slower. Then again, maybe a new form factor will allow for this.

It seems unlikely that the iMac would recieve the FX. The FX is already earmarked for the Xserves, PMs and PBs, shifting iMacs to the FX as well could cause a real supply issue. If everything except the iBook was powered by the FX, could IBMs manufacturing keep up with demand? It has to start making 975s and 976s before too long surely? We wouldn't want those to be delayed....
 
Appropriate Simpsons quote for how I'm feeling right now...

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Homer: Kids, would you step outside for a second?
[the kids run out]
[stands up, takes deep breath]
F---
[a church organ plays a chord; birds fly away; everyone stops]
Ned: Dear Lord! That's the loudest profanity I've ever heard.
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Never in my life have I had such a wad of cash available for the purchase of a new Mac. I can't believe they are not going to release Rev. B G5s until WWDC! Argh!

Let me tell you this, Mr. Jobs, after all of this waiting for Rev. Bs, there better not be a friggin' month-long wait to get one after the announcement-- the skies had better open up and G5 boxes had better fall out of it, within days, or else*!

*Or else it'll be that much longer you have to wait until this money [fans out $100 bills in front of monitor] goes into your coffers.

~Philly
 
Bilba said:
This might work well for me. I bought the 1.25 Powerbook about a month ago to use on my last semester on college. Now I can wait until the semester ends, and sell this baby in a relatively new condition for 2000-2100$ and wait for the new revision to come out. I will be able to sell it for this price and not loose much money because I used the Programmers Academic discount. If a new revision was out, than the value of my pbook will sink rather fast.

I guess some bad news can be good for some people.
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Well, at the moment, a refurb direct from Apple is $1999, so I would be suprised if you got more than that for it.
 
Low said:
low said:
Dell's famous for their difficult process, as if that's surprising. :rolleyes: :p
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actually not..just send them your purchase slip and form and youre good..really aint that difficult
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Well, its easy to apply for a rebate from Dell. The hard part comes from actually getting it. They contract out their rebate proccessing to some aweful company, and I would guess that at least 15% of the rebates submitted never get paid. There was a huge fiasco with a $50 on Axims about 18 months ago.

I think that they (the rebate clearinghouse) just hopes that people will forget that they ever sent in the rebate (12-16 weeks is a pretty long time to remember, after all) and so when the check never comes, they don't eve notice. That's just pure profit for them, from one point of view.

And then if yo do remember, you end up with a huge run around, since you naturally call Dell, who tells you that they don't actually handle the rebates themselves, so they need to look into, blah blah. After awhile, most people just give up. Now, a $500 rebate is a bit different, but I am just commenting on Dell's rebate system, and how the original poster was pretty on the money.

Rob
 
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