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Browser Comparison Between Original iPad and iPad 2

DrJohnnyN said:
So sue me. ;)



I figured my year with Operation Smiles more than makes up for it.
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Personally, I have no problem with you spending your money on whatever makes you feel important. Taking the time to photograph your receipt and post it on the internet? I think that is actually a bit sad. My wife is a paeds ICU reg, so I tend to meet a fair few doctors that are going through the expensive wine/meal thing(albeit to a lesser scale than this as the Australian healthcare system is less utterly broken than yours). I'm assured that some of them will end up as worthwhile humans in a few years time...

Seriously though, boasting about your disposable wealth on a public forum in order to respond to a single individual is just bad manners. Even having "dr" as part of your user name is a bit naff and irrelevant.
 
pmz said:
You do. The performance is 95% iOS 4.3. The extra ram only affects the page caching. And still, if you were to actually open enough apps on your iPad 2 and go back to Safari, I doubt there would be any page caching going on anymore.

Wrong. 512 is more than enough. You have no basis for comment, as you don't have another product that compares.
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well, my iPhone 4 has 512 ram and still refreshes tabbed pages. I also have 4.3 installed... The memory must not be the reason for the better tabbed performance. There's got to be something else helping the new iPad 2. I do, however, have quite a few other apps open, so I'll have to agree with the statement of having an iPad 2 user open a bunch of apps and then go back to see how many pages stay cached.
 
phpmaven said:
Well... While Safari is vastly improved and I dont see page reloads as often, it still happens. If you load up all the tabs and then do a bit of surfing on one of them, especially if the pages you visit are image heavy, and them go back to the other tabs, you will get the same reloading effect. Also, I don't where the reviewer got the idea that you no longer get the "checkerboard" effect. If you bring up a new page that hasn't downloaded completely yet and quicky try to scroll to the bottom, you will see the same checkerboard effect.




You're underwhelmed because you can't edit complex Excel spreadsheets and do intensive video editing? Give me a break. :rolleyes: Also, the video stuttering issues you experienced had nothing to do with the iPad but your own wifi network or the websites themselves.

By the way, sorry but, go troll elsewhere.
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He states what many have said...great device but not for everyone who needs business apps...so thats trolling?

get real.
 
Maybe an iOS knows iPad 1 from 2 and refreshes for one and not the other. Could this be another Apple special coding lie like the signal bars...to make it look more impressive?
 
Metapraxis said:
Personally, I have no problem with you spending your money on whatever makes you feel important. Taking the time to photograph your receipt and post it on the internet? I think that is actually a bit sad. My wife is a paeds ICU reg, so I tend to meet a fair few doctors that are going through the expensive wine/meal thing(albeit to a lesser scale than this as the Australian healthcare system is less utterly broken than yours). I'm assured that some of them will end up as worthwhile humans in a few years time...

Seriously though, boasting about your disposable wealth on a public forum in order to respond to a single individual is just bad manners. Even having "dr" as part of your user name is a bit naff and irrelevant.
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celo48 said:
With "all" that money you have, I would lose if I sued you.
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Thanks for the insight. Have a good day.
 
Smigit said:
You make it sound like you need to throw away large volumes of cash to keep up. If you sell the devices its more like $200 a year to stay current, assuming you sell at a good time which is easy given how predictable apple release cycles generally are.
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Yup, especially iPhones. I paid for my iPhone 4 plus a few extra bucks with the sale of my 3G to someone looking to unlock on tmobile. Best reason to keep it off tmobile lol.
 
This removes one of my big complaints about the iPad and makes it much more interesting. It still has a long way to go before it browses as well as a desktop brower, however. Like only having 8 tabs available. And it seems disingenuous to blame the RAM for mobile Safari's reloading, when Dolphin on Android does tabs without any problem.
 
ZipZap said:
Maybe an iOS knows iPad 1 from 2 and refreshes for one and not the other. Could this be another Apple special coding lie like the signal bars...to make it look more impressive?
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They don't have to go that far - they just put a paltry amount of RAM in the iPad 1 and did not tell you about it (Post-PC and all that). The iPad1 didn't have enough memory to keep all of your browser tabs open and in memory. So it ended up discarding some when it needed memory to do whatever the other thing you were doing.

With iPad2 it now has double the memory so it can hold a few tabs in memory without needing to discard and reload.

The only funny thing about this is the "honest" iPad reviewers - I don't believe any one told us that iPad 1 was laggy or reloads pages due to insufficient RAM - it was all glow and shine until the new one came out ;)
 
wizard said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

Personally I think it was a mistake to release iPad 1 with less RAM than the iPhone 4. This release however puts the iPad 2 on a new footing giving developers vastly more resources to build upon. We will likely start seeing iPad 2 only apps real soon.
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The reason iPad1 had 256MB of RAM was that even with ALL their wizardry Apple needed to cut the corners to sell the product at the price they did. Apple is a business and they need to meet their sales margins.

iPad 1 was a first gen product so the manufacturing process was still more expensive on per unit basis and with the second generation costs have most likely dropped so Apple can afford to double the RAM and keep the prices the same and their margins roughly the same too. If their margins are NOT the same, that's because now they actually have brewing competition they need to watch for. The first one was the lone tablet. It could afford to cut corners and be king. A kingdom with one person population...But that era has ended.
 
I use iCab Mobile for my iPad, and it keeps the pages cached fine. That is the primary reason why I use iCab Mobile, becuase of it's ability to cache pages so that I can open up a picture in a new tab on a site like Facebook, and then return to the original tab and not have to reload. iCab Mobile even works on my 3GS fine. So I think Safari just isn't optimized well... not necessarily a lack of RAM.
 
What a useless video. 2 iPads not even running the same firmware, one possibly JB'd, and a narrator who is uninformed. The iFixit breakdown was already up last night confirming 512mb.

I also loved when he says the iPad doesn't cache pages and is then surprised when only 3 of 9 reload. He also can't do math apparently, since he says "about half" refreshed. 33% is nowhere near half, it's about 1/3 if I remember 4th grade correctly.
 
docprego said:
Also notable in this video is the difference in the white level. It's fairly shocking, the iPad 2 looks vastly better.
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It does look brighter.

igazza said:
I can do that with my macbook air 11 and it plays flash videos too :rolleyes:
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:D:D


caf9128 said:
512 MB of RAM is still pretty chintzy. Come on Apple, spend the extra few bucks wholesale to give us a product that won't be outdated in 6 months!
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iPad 3 will have more RAM. Apple is never going to put all of it's cards on the table. Why would they? Look at the hysteria this upgrade created. They didn't need to make any changes and people would have still been lined up to get one.

FSUSem1noles said:
I was just about to say the same thing!! Look, sure the new iPad is a little faster, it's NEW it should be faster!! $500 worth over the previous iPad?? that's up to the buyer to decide.. personally speaking I'm passing for now...
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It probably isn't worth spending another $500 if you already have the first iPad but is sure is a good buy for anyone who doesn't have one.
 
djdrah said:
well, my iPhone 4 has 512 ram and still refreshes tabbed pages. I also have 4.3 installed... The memory must not be the reason for the better tabbed performance. There's got to be something else helping the new iPad 2. I do, however, have quite a few other apps open, so I'll have to agree with the statement of having an iPad 2 user open a bunch of apps and then go back to see how many pages stay cached.
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It's going to matter which other apps you run and how many. When it gets to the point that the OS has to dump safari from memory, or notify safari that it's low on memory, it will drop the tabs. I'm not sure what, other than RAM, the iPad 2 would have to help this. The faster CPUs do seem to help apps "wake up" from suspension a little quicker though.
 
Jakeblu said:
That does look impressive. Not concerned about the reloading tabs as I use atomic and I haven't seen that happen but no checkerboard effect is a great improvement :D
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Just tried one at apple store and there is STILL the checkerboard effect. Possibly not as bad and possibly because the wifi in the store was heavily in use. Honestly, other than the form factor, I don't see much change.
 
djdrah said:
well, my iPhone 4 has 512 ram and still refreshes tabbed pages. I also have 4.3 installed... The memory must not be the reason for the better tabbed performance. There's got to be something else helping the new iPad 2. I do, however, have quite a few other apps open, so I'll have to agree with the statement of having an iPad 2 user open a bunch of apps and then go back to see how many pages stay cached.
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The notes on iOS 4.3 mention that Safari has also been improved to make it snappier. Again, that's just another reason to ignore this test until both iPads are running iOS 4.3
 
docprego said:
Also notable in this video is the difference in the white level. It's fairly shocking, the iPad 2 looks vastly better.
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That's not an iPad 1 vs iPad 2 thing. I have two iPad 1's and one (the one I'm writing this on now) is warmer than the other. I would say they look approximately like the two shown in the video.

It's the same with iPhones. I have two... One is again warmer than the other.

I believe it's just variance in the different screen manufacturers. I'm sure that if you took a sample of iPad 2's you would find some warmer than others... although hopefully apple will have tightened up the tolerances for iPad 2's.
 
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