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Can I hope about Mac Pro update at August 7th
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I don't need a more powerful or current video card. I want a more powerful/current videocard in order to maximize the value of my purchase. You obviously fail to relate to people who are not wealthy, but let me lay this out for you - see if you can follow the logic:
1. Some of us are not wealthy.
2. The Mac users who stuck with Apple through thin were musicians like myself.
3. Typically musicians require Pro machines.
4. Typically musicians (like me) are not wealthy.
5. People who are not rich get along better by maxmizing the value of major purchases.
6. The average Mac is useful for a few years, up to 5 if you are lucky.
7. If you buy a machine when it is new technology, the margin for value is 20-33% higher than if you buy a machine with year-old components because it will be useful for longer.
So you see my friend, by waiting, those of us who are not rich and are not given free Mac Pros can do our best to maximize the value of our purchases. I may not need a big fancy video card now, but in 3-4 years I might get an extra year of usefulness out of it when it supports the OS features that the old one didn't. It's called "thinking ahead" when making a purchase.
Back when I needed a Powerbook for the first time, I waited because the was a rumor that the next iteration (the Lombard) would include USB. Holy smokes did that end up being a great decision. The Lombard ran OS 10.3 way better than the Wallstreet did, making that computer useful until it died 7 years later. It was significantly more portable, which was a huge boon when I was traveling a lot for work.
When I bought my last Powermac, I waited for the MDD. Boy was that a good idea - instead of being limited to 2 internal hard drives, I have 4 in there now with more than a TB of storage for my music, plus each of those drives can be a large hard drive, as opposed to the 120GB addressing-limit on the Quicksilvers. It was also the first Mac to use DDR RAM, which was a big leap in performance over the previous models. If I had purchased it a few days earlier, I wouldn't have had those things and I would have gotten less long-term value out of this Powermac.
I think you are blessed and should be thankful that you have a Mac Pro now and didn't have to wait, but does that really entitle you to pontificate to those of us who have to budget in the course of our lives?
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Out of all the replies and developments on the potential buyer numbers, performance, etc, I have been reading, this is the most amusing:
On the whole, professionals -main users of the mac pro as someone pointed out here, do know that time is money. And not all professionals are graphic designers. Do you think professionals in the film-video bussiness, we don't care about having a render done 1 hour earlier ? Do you think it is irrelevant, to have more computing power ?
Out of all the replies and developments on the potential buyer numbers, performance, etc, I have been reading, this is the most amusing:
On the whole, professionals -main users of the mac pro as someone pointed out here, do know that time is money. And not all professionals are graphic designers. Do you think professionals in the film-video bussiness, we don't care about having a render done 1 hour earlier ? Do you think it is irrelevant, to have more computing power ?
Post of the day quality good sir.
I hope to get the most value out of my Mac purchase as well. I got my last iMac a month before it went Core 2. I have my department Windows laptop and I hope to hold out using that.
well put yadmonkey
I agree, yadmonkey has explained the issue brilliantly
It's not about being a freak, it's about how to maximize limited resources. I buy a mac instead of a pc because the latter won't do the job; the mac costs more money but that doesn't matter as long as, in any case, you maximize your value.
And definitely, unless you're using your mac pro to surf the net, time is money.
I agree, yadmonkey has explained the issue brilliantly
It's not about being a freak, it's about how to maximize limited resources. I buy a mac instead of a pc because the latter won't do the job; the mac costs more money but that doesn't matter as long as, in any case, you maximize your value.
And definitely, unless you're using your mac pro to surf the net, time is money.
I purchased mine over a month now and do not regret it al all, even if Apple come out with new machines tomorrow I've still put mine to good use over the past month. The current Mac Pro is a beast of a machine, not saying the new ones aren't worth waiting for, but I'm very happy with the machine I have under my feet.
A few years down the line, it can still be upgraded to feature: 8 Core 3Ghz processor, 32GB RAM, 4TB HDD. Not bad at all.
A few years down the line, it can still be upgraded to feature: 8 Core 3Ghz processor, 32GB RAM, 4TB HDD. Not bad at all.
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wow
Actually that's a pretty hefty speed bump. Hoping for the 8800GTX so I can buy one for my mac pro.
I understand the desire to have official parts but ouch.
I wish I had your job to afford all that.
I don't even think you can flash it and use it. Doesn't apple incorporate the drivers into an update?
You have to pay to play in the apple world. That's for sure. Now to order the 8 core 3.33ghz mac pro tomorrow. Lets see how much it is.
Although I still think they are going to release the Mac Gamer Pro. A Quad Core machine (non xeon) with ddr3 ram and a badass video card. Seeing as how they made such a statement about mac games earlier, this would make sense and would be cheap. We shall see.
I Caution Everyone Against Expecting Anything Tomorrow
While I hope I'm wrong, there's no mention of Harpertown in any of those articles about Penryn nor SS. So I'm going to keep my expectations down on low so I won't be too disappointed if this isn't a Mac Pro related event.
I'll be thrilled if iMacs get Kentsfield.
Still think the Tuesday September 25 Paris Apple Expo Keynote might be the time-place for the next Mac Pro.
While I hope I'm wrong, there's no mention of Harpertown in any of those articles about Penryn nor SS. So I'm going to keep my expectations down on low so I won't be too disappointed if this isn't a Mac Pro related event.
I'll be thrilled if iMacs get Kentsfield.
Still think the Tuesday September 25 Paris Apple Expo Keynote might be the time-place for the next Mac Pro.
If someone can dump the video BIOS then you can flash it. OS X will just think it's the real deal.
Amen. If it wasnt for the Final Cut Studio 2.0 suite, I would have bought a windows HP workstation and go with Premiere Pro Loooong time ago.
Too bad, Apple has forsaken the musicians in you and the indie film makers in me and go with the trendy ipod yuppy market nowadays.
I hope all the mac pro will get 8 core (in order to differentiate the mac pro with the new imac) and get a new GPU, while Apple waits for SS for a complete overhaul.
Along these lines, none of the rumor or news sites are really saying anything about a Mac Pro update tomorrow. Not that they're gospel, but they usually have some inkling of news when there's going to be an update.
As much as it sucks, I think you are correct MM. Maybe we could see some minor bumps in the GPU, RAM, and HD. Probably no CPUs. Which in reality, is what I am holding out for.
Oh well. Late September sounds good too.
isn't the clovertowns the (almost) exact same price the woodcrests are now?
wouldn't it be stupid not to update them? wouldn't they be losing money by not updating them?
why put 4 cores in the mac pro and earn x dollars per machine, when you can put 8 cores in the mac pro and earn x dollars per machine, with increased sales due to the mac pro update?
i just don't get it.
wouldn't it be stupid not to update them? wouldn't they be losing money by not updating them?
why put 4 cores in the mac pro and earn x dollars per machine, when you can put 8 cores in the mac pro and earn x dollars per machine, with increased sales due to the mac pro update?
i just don't get it.
True - Clovertowns Now Cost Same As Woodcrests
This chart makes it easy to understand why some of us are willing to wait for Harpertowns in SS.
You're right. Seems like Apple has nothing to lose putting all Clovertowns inside until they can get Harpertowns in SS logic boards. But Apple's logic is hard to figure out.
This chart makes it easy to understand why some of us are willing to wait for Harpertowns in SS.
8 Cores Is For 16 Applications Running At Once + One Application Running On 8 Cores
But it does in a multi-threaded multi-task workflow. 8 cores is not just about what one application can use, but also about what 16 applications can use simultaneously. Wonder how much longer this misunderstanding will prevail among users.