I too am current Rogers customer and you'll be able to just pay the $199(8gb) or $299(16gb) extending your contract for 2 years.
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I too am current Rogers customer and you'll be able to just pay the $199(8gb) or $299(16gb) extending your contract for 2 years.
I am with rogers too sooooo my thoughts are. If rogers comes up with a cheap data plan ( which inreally really doubt) and I already have an unlocked iPhone. But my dad wants one thennnn. I can buy the new one and give this one to my dad and give my mom my tom tom. Hummm. Sounds good. I'm just waiting to see what the data plans are going to be like. I feel and think we are going to get royally raped by it though.
Oh thanks
I don't want a huge bill, maybe like $60 a month with all taxes, is that possible? and with unlimited text?
no way. Not with rogers. I dont get unlimited text and havent got a data plan and already pay more than that.
I'm sure this is not a huge possibility but could you imagine buying your iphone on July 11th opening the box up taking the iphone out and having a ugly @ss ROGERS logo on the back or even worse, powering it up and getting that annoying Rogers theme...
again, I'm sure Apple has ensured that the iphone stays "Apple" branded... but this would be a huge turnoff for me.
again, I'm sure Apple has ensured that the iphone stays "Apple" branded... but this would be a huge turnoff for me.
Two weeks ago I argued with a Rogers sales clerk about the branding. He said it would definitely be branded and that Rogers wouldn't sell a phone without their logo. I said that ATT was the same but they didn't brand the iPhone. Then two co-workers came over and insisted I was wrong that there was a small ATT logo under the Apple logo and Rogers would have the same. I then showed them my iPhone and asked them to point out the ATT logo to me after which one said, "Oh well maybe it was a photo from an early testing model that I saw"
If you realize that you don't trust anything Rogers people say it really starts to become funny to have conversations with them.
What you guys have to remember about Telus/Bell unlimited data plans is that they are not 3G. The common complaint in the states about the price jumping from $20 to $30 w/out text is that the $30 is standard for 3G data plans.
So, I'd expect for any 3G data plans available on Rogers, unlimited or nearly unlimited (whatever that might be) will be more expensive than those Telus and Bell offer. And if people complain, Rogers can tell them to shove it. If you want the iPhone, you pay. And people will, they'll probably line up to do so.
So, I'd expect for any 3G data plans available on Rogers, unlimited or nearly unlimited (whatever that might be) will be more expensive than those Telus and Bell offer. And if people complain, Rogers can tell them to shove it. If you want the iPhone, you pay. And people will, they'll probably line up to do so.
no i really doubt that will happen,, but most likely you ll be able to gt it use it for teh first month and then change your plan to whatever you wnat, just say you broke your phone or something if they complain by saying that you have an iphone and must get that plan.
This was on the National Post site, someone is smoking some very bad stuff.
$399 for the 8GB version? 100-200 MB for $35 and as this "analyst" says, that should be enough? "Virtual unlimited, what the H
does that mean?
I already recall getting ripped off by Rogers in the past when someone at their store insisted that their BB data plans were unlimited. I guess what he meant was we cap it at 25MB and the amount we charge you after that is unlimited.
What to expect from Rogers' iPhone offering
Posted: April 30, 2008, 2:17 PM by Jonathan Ratner
Technology
Given the very limited information Rogers Communication Inc.s provided in its announcement that it will offer Apple Inc.s iPhone in Canada sometime in 2008 (CEO Ted Rogers said the company is under contract not to say anything more), the market and consumers will just have to wait and see whether it will be the current model of the popular smart phone or the 3G version, which is expected to be released sometime around July.
While shares of Rogers climbed 3.6% on the companys strong first quarter results and confirmation that it will offer the iPhone, RBC Capital Markets analyst Jonathan Allen believes the gadget will prove to be a meaningful catalyst for the stock, accelerating subscriber growth by 150,000 in the first year of launch and consequently contributing to EBITDA. He expects Rogers will get a exclusive deal to offer the iPhone in Canada that may last four years or more, ensuring its competitive advantage and its position as the company that will offer the 3G version.
In our opinion, distribution is a key consideration for Apples market growth strategy... and Apple would be more comfortable entrusting Rogers, which has the most proprietary stores and subscribers in Canada, with a lengthy deal, Mr. Allen told clients.
With Canadas wireless spectrum auction set to begin on May 27, 2008, he expects hype surrounding new competition will dominate talk from the telecom sector and may present a buying opportunity. Competition worries may weight on Rogers shares, but the analyst feels the stock is attractively valued now and could climb higher if the auction is uneventful, or if a few cable companies emerge with spectrum and no aggressive national entrants emerge.
Apple may agree to a virtually unlimited plan with Rogers for $35 a month (excluding voice) with data usage of 100 or 200 megabytes per month, the analyst suggested, adding that this should be more than sufficient. Apple could also insist that an all-in voice and data plan include things like free call features. Combined plans such as this, with 250 to 500 anytime minutes and unlimited evenings/weekend calls after 9 p.m., may cost $80 to $100 per month, Mr. Allen suggested.
As for the price Rogers will charge for the iPhone, he expects it will be around $399 for the 8 gigabyte version, with a three-year contract.
$399 for the 8GB version? 100-200 MB for $35 and as this "analyst" says, that should be enough? "Virtual unlimited, what the H
does that mean?I already recall getting ripped off by Rogers in the past when someone at their store insisted that their BB data plans were unlimited. I guess what he meant was we cap it at 25MB and the amount we charge you after that is unlimited.
What to expect from Rogers' iPhone offering
Posted: April 30, 2008, 2:17 PM by Jonathan Ratner
Technology
Given the very limited information Rogers Communication Inc.s provided in its announcement that it will offer Apple Inc.s iPhone in Canada sometime in 2008 (CEO Ted Rogers said the company is under contract not to say anything more), the market and consumers will just have to wait and see whether it will be the current model of the popular smart phone or the 3G version, which is expected to be released sometime around July.
While shares of Rogers climbed 3.6% on the companys strong first quarter results and confirmation that it will offer the iPhone, RBC Capital Markets analyst Jonathan Allen believes the gadget will prove to be a meaningful catalyst for the stock, accelerating subscriber growth by 150,000 in the first year of launch and consequently contributing to EBITDA. He expects Rogers will get a exclusive deal to offer the iPhone in Canada that may last four years or more, ensuring its competitive advantage and its position as the company that will offer the 3G version.
In our opinion, distribution is a key consideration for Apples market growth strategy... and Apple would be more comfortable entrusting Rogers, which has the most proprietary stores and subscribers in Canada, with a lengthy deal, Mr. Allen told clients.
With Canadas wireless spectrum auction set to begin on May 27, 2008, he expects hype surrounding new competition will dominate talk from the telecom sector and may present a buying opportunity. Competition worries may weight on Rogers shares, but the analyst feels the stock is attractively valued now and could climb higher if the auction is uneventful, or if a few cable companies emerge with spectrum and no aggressive national entrants emerge.
Apple may agree to a virtually unlimited plan with Rogers for $35 a month (excluding voice) with data usage of 100 or 200 megabytes per month, the analyst suggested, adding that this should be more than sufficient. Apple could also insist that an all-in voice and data plan include things like free call features. Combined plans such as this, with 250 to 500 anytime minutes and unlimited evenings/weekend calls after 9 p.m., may cost $80 to $100 per month, Mr. Allen suggested.
As for the price Rogers will charge for the iPhone, he expects it will be around $399 for the 8 gigabyte version, with a three-year contract.
^ ROFL, that guys smoking something good. Guess he forgot about $199 USD being the lowest around the world which comes to around, $204 CDN so the price in Canada for the 8GB will most likely be $199. If it's not, Apple's breaking their promise of $199 USD being the lowest.
Also the $35 data plan sucks now that Bell has Unlimited for $30.
Also the $35 data plan sucks now that Bell has Unlimited for $30.
Well that and Rogers already announced it would be 199 and 299 in their press release, didn't they?
I can't believe I'm trying to rationalize whatever Rogers is going to gouge me every month, because all of us here know perfectly well that whatever it is, it's going to be too much. But whenever part of my brain says "You're frigging insane for even considering this!" another part of my brain says, "But... but... we wants it!"
I'm so screwed. *sigh*
I'm so screwed. *sigh*
Ok, this may be a dumb question but I'm a bit nervous about all of this. I'm first on a waiting list at a local Rogers store but I'm not sure if this is going to do me any good (that's if they even go by that). I 'upgraded' to an HTC Touch last November (worst phone EVER) so I'm not eligible for an upgrade yet. No one either through support on the phone or in store can tell me is if I will be able to buy the phone without an upgrade credit?? I don't mind paying full price, I'm used to it as I tend to go through phones every 6 months to begin with. However, my understanding from what's going on with AT&T is only new customers or those eligible for an upgrade can purchase the iPhone? It makes no sense that Rogers won't offer something to those of us who purchased a phone recently but I wouldn't be surprised in the least. I'm at the point where I would sign any contract they want to through at me but from the sounds of it there is no way for me to re-sign a contract or extend my current one. So am I screwed? I'm amazed that aside from subsidized pricing Rogers employees/reps know nothing what so ever about availability/pricing on the iPhone. Any speculation, info would be great!
think what the last member just postedis right unless things have canned with apple only new customers and people that are not under contract will be able to renew contract to get an iPhone. It happened to me a year and a half ago. It was cheaper to start a whole new contract than upgrading and they refused to give me the same price as a new customer I was sooooo pissed. I literally cancelled my service with them over the phone as I signed a new cntract to get the phone I wanted. But we ll see. I mean I dont see why they would do that they are still chaining you for even longer when you renew a contract so they are getting what they want anyways.
I have a phone plan with fido.... i had an iPhone sold it because I wanted the 3G. so now thats out of the way...
When the 3G gets released. Will I be able to go to the apple store and get a 3G iPhone and go home? with out any contract garbage?
All I want to do is go to the apple store get my 16 GB 3G & walk home and pop in my fido sim card. end of story
will this be possible?
When the 3G gets released. Will I be able to go to the apple store and get a 3G iPhone and go home? with out any contract garbage?
All I want to do is go to the apple store get my 16 GB 3G & walk home and pop in my fido sim card. end of story
will this be possible?
I think that ATT is going to make you sign-up in store, at least that's what I've read. But then I also read something about if you don't activate within 30 days ATT will penalize you (not sure how, but again that's what I read).
The second part makes me think that you can walk out of the store without a purchase because if you haven't activated in 30days that comes across as a situation where you bought the phone and didn't activate it originally.
Of course none of that means anything because ATT also has a 30 unlimited data plan and I doubt that will be the same for us
I was really shocked by the info the Rogers sales people told me in-store today. I'm surprised they can remember their little password when activating a phone.
He said that the Rogers iPhone will be superior to the iPhone the US will receive because we have:
-twice the storage on ours
-better 3g
He did say that the BB plans, Windows Mobile plans and iPhone data prices will be drastically changed within the next few weeks though. There's still hope!
He said that the Rogers iPhone will be superior to the iPhone the US will receive because we have:
-twice the storage on ours
-better 3g
He did say that the BB plans, Windows Mobile plans and iPhone data prices will be drastically changed within the next few weeks though. There's still hope!
That's because people at Rogers are always right and know everything.
I've never seen an iPhone with ATT anywhere on it. Unless they are talking about the little network logo on the screen.
Really? I can't wait. OMG, 16GB and 32GB. Apple must have really kept this rumour secret because apparently Steve doesn't know yet.
Better 3G? Last time I check 3G was 3G, it doesn't really change unless you are talking coverage blackouts.
I sure hope so. Right now $5 for 5MB is horrible. I can't do anything. Rogers is great for crippling devices, lets hope they won't do it.
I really hope Apple steps in on this one and makes sure that plans are cheap to ensure more users enjoy the entire iPhone experience.
I know nobody knows yet, but I also hope that you can buy the phone without the contract. Like what would happen if I said my current phone broke and I need a new one, I would like an iPhone? They can't just turn you down can they. Say I just bought an iPhone + plan and had the device stolen, would they really say I need to add another 2 years to my plan?
This made me laugh because this may be one of the few times that Rogers is unable to cripple the device's software/hardware.. but oddly enough, simply by charging terrible data rates the end result can still be accomplished...
I know nobody knows yet, but I also hope that you can buy the phone without the contract. Like what would happen if I said my current phone broke and I need a new one, I would like an iPhone? They can't just turn you down can they. Say I just bought an iPhone + plan and had the device stolen, would they really say I need to add another 2 years to my plan?
Sadly I think they can turn you down if you don't want a contract, if that's the stipulation they have. On the bright side, you may have the contract situation confused (or I just misread 'add another 2 years') because the new contract would start the date you signed it. If you have one year left you won't be put at three years, just two from the date you sign.
Also, I think that the Rogers press release said it was a 3-year, not a 2-year contract.
Currently I'm stuck on a family contract (easier, cheaper for what I need) which was signed back in November. So if I signed on July 11th 2008 my contract would end July 11th 2011?
You're right, I remember reading that too, it is 3 years.