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Classic Mac Startup Chime Not Present in New MacBook Pros
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If only people bothered to learn how it worked...
The startup chime volume was directly related to the system volume before rebooting. If you want it quiet, turn down the volume. If you didn't want to hear it, mute the volume before rebooting.
I'm sick of clever features being removed because people are too stupid to learn how things work. The dumbing down of society as each day passes.
The startup chime volume was directly related to the system volume before rebooting. If you want it quiet, turn down the volume. If you didn't want to hear it, mute the volume before rebooting.
I'm sick of clever features being removed because people are too stupid to learn how things work. The dumbing down of society as each day passes.
No, it doesn't seem so. When you open your car's door it does't power on the engine, right. Maybe you want to stare or meditate in front of your MacBook. Maybe you like to keep it open at all times even when it's shut down. It's your Mac and your business. Pushing a power button isn't hard. And forcing a boot when the lid is open and imply a user absolutely wants and needs an immediate boot up is not a good idea.
I can see where they're going, they want it to be like an iPhone or iPad which is always on, feel MacBook more like a mobile device, but at least that could be an option.
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I just want to add another vote for the WTF is Apple thinking? crowd.
My first Mac was an SE in the late 80's. The chime and the glowing logo were the kind of touches that made Apple's products special. I just don't get why they suddenly seem so intent on sabotaging their once sterling brand. It's not only tarnished, it's like they want to melt it down.
My first Mac was an SE in the late 80's. The chime and the glowing logo were the kind of touches that made Apple's products special. I just don't get why they suddenly seem so intent on sabotaging their once sterling brand. It's not only tarnished, it's like they want to melt it down.
And played with it the night before the keynote for the first time? LOL
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I'm guessing it could be a "hidden" option in the system preferences, or there will probably be an app that can tweak it. Much like how Classic Shell for Windows can change the start menu layout
LOL, it's not ignoring the Mac completely, since they just came out with a new model... but I'm saying they've BEEN ignoring the Mac, and continue to ignore 3/4 of their lineup (the desktop tower, the Mini, the non-pro laptop). Apple has not paid real attention to the Mac in a while, and while the new laptop is fine and all, it's indicative of a trend towards de-professionalizing the lineup -- removing ports virtually everyone uses, like USB, and not shipping with enough internal space for the target audience. Apple used to make powerful laptops and it seems more and more like they are making machines that pursue irrelevant goals (like thinness, enabled by using 5 dongles, or brighter displays, as if the current displays aren't already ridiculously bright enough). Why would I want an ultra-thin laptop plugged in to five dongles in order to use my external storage, peripherals, and external monitor? Why, in a cafe, would NOT having magsafe be a benefit? These are changes that don't give us any real benefit.
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I think they want to get rid of the "past", but the sad thing recently is that Apple's past is far more exciting than their present or, in all likelihood, their future. It's worth celebrating SOME of what made them special.
Every day since the launch of the 2016 MBPs I find some new story making me increasingly relieved I got my 2015 rMBP 15 when I did. That's a conflicted, bittersweet feeling.
Has anyone seen a way to disable auto-boot when opening the screen?
Has anyone seen a way to disable auto-boot when opening the screen?
So people would blow thousands of dollars to have the startup chime and illuminated Apple logo back. Yikes! Apple did the next best thing, and made a automated startup process without the need to press any buttons (thats innovative or have we all forgotten that word here). Just imagine sitting next to someone with a windows laptop, who needs to press the button and wait ages for their laptop to boot up, when your apple is already on the login screen.
But the Apple logo isn't gone is it?
Technology comes and goes. Brand identity is the most valuable thing any company can own. The Macintosh is one of its most valuable brands, and the startup sound is part of that brand identity, no less valuable than the Apple logo -- whatever color or colors it happens to be.
where is Tim Cook ? when is going to start talking about the mess he created ?
apparently he is on web, print and mainstream media all the time releasing stupid interviews on his magic pipeline but now he is hiding
where is the media and why don't they go and interview him now ?
He should now talk about the mess he created with this latest miserable release
apple is failing really fast
apparently he is on web, print and mainstream media all the time releasing stupid interviews on his magic pipeline but now he is hiding
where is the media and why don't they go and interview him now ?
He should now talk about the mess he created with this latest miserable release
apple is failing really fast
I think I will set my new email alert sound to the chime, just because.
I think it's more to do with the fact that the laptops are unaffordable for a lot of people. Everyone would have been ok if the prices didn't rise this much. At least that is my opinion because that is where it has hurt me the most.
I don't think this spells the end of Apple or anything drastic like that, but do think it's a bit sad that they took away two things that have been with us for so long, the other one being the glowing logo.
I spent some time typing on the new Macbook Pro's keyboard at Best Buy today, and really liked the feel of it. It's a nice machine. Apple has not forgotten the Mac; they are just trying to forge it into something different. The market will tell if it was the right thing. I'm bittersweet about the machine, but won't be horribly disappointed when upgrade time comes around. Just mildly annoyed.
Frankly I can't think of an Apple product update that HASN'T caused mild annoyance in one way or another. Par for the course it seems. Another recent example is, they really should have gone USB-C on the iPhone 7. But nooooo.
I spent some time typing on the new Macbook Pro's keyboard at Best Buy today, and really liked the feel of it. It's a nice machine. Apple has not forgotten the Mac; they are just trying to forge it into something different. The market will tell if it was the right thing. I'm bittersweet about the machine, but won't be horribly disappointed when upgrade time comes around. Just mildly annoyed.
Frankly I can't think of an Apple product update that HASN'T caused mild annoyance in one way or another. Par for the course it seems. Another recent example is, they really should have gone USB-C on the iPhone 7. But nooooo.
Removing the power button isn't a convenience for the users but Apple and only Apple. It's because that would have meant there would be room needed for the hardware and it's jam packed in there. You are forgetting that the frustration is not with the chime, it's more to do with other factors like the 16GB limit on RAM, the price rise.
Oh my god.
The first page reads like what you'd get if someone wanted to write a parody the MR forums.
The first page reads like what you'd get if someone wanted to write a parody the MR forums.
The chime is not only quintessentially Apple and one of those little things that made them standout from the competition, but also is an important diagnostic tool. Heck, if I'm helping someone with any Mac from a 128K to a Retina the first words out of my mouth are always "Does it Chime?" If nothing else, that USUALLY lets you differentiate software and hardware problems. Granted compact Macs beep rather than chime, but still some POST indicator has been there since the present.
Heck, the notebook history video they showed in the event even started with the correct start-up chime for a 100 series PowerBook(and other subsequent 68K and OWR Macs laptops along with most desktops) and not the New World Rom chime that came with the iMac G3 and has stuck around. The only SMALL exception to the chime I can think of is the PowerMac G4 Cube, which has no built-in speakers and thus will only chime if a set of USB speakers is connected.
First, they got rid of the sad Mac and chimes of death(most of which are really great sounding or otherwise interesting even though they generally foretell a bad thing) but at least served a function. Now the "Happy Mac" chime is gone.
Heck, the notebook history video they showed in the event even started with the correct start-up chime for a 100 series PowerBook(and other subsequent 68K and OWR Macs laptops along with most desktops) and not the New World Rom chime that came with the iMac G3 and has stuck around. The only SMALL exception to the chime I can think of is the PowerMac G4 Cube, which has no built-in speakers and thus will only chime if a set of USB speakers is connected.
First, they got rid of the sad Mac and chimes of death(most of which are really great sounding or otherwise interesting even though they generally foretell a bad thing) but at least served a function. Now the "Happy Mac" chime is gone.
It also works when you hold the keys down immediately after pressing the power button.
Should be a cash register going ka-ching to reflect their current post Jobs mindset.
A couple of other thoughts-some people have mentioned start-up diagnostics.
PRAM resets can sometimes take longer than someone who has never done one realizes, and the chime is the only real clue that you've actually done it. In fact, when I write up how-tos on older Macs(we have some at work running legacy hardware) and put in a diagnostic section, I always have to specify to keep holding the keys UNTIL you hear a second chime.
Many other boot options-like boot selector-have to be done before the chime. Again, it serves more of a function than just adding to the Mac experience.
The watch is still present in Sierra. I see it most often in Lightroom and other Adobe products, but not the beach ball is still not the universal catch-all for waiting on the system to finish a process.
PRAM resets can sometimes take longer than someone who has never done one realizes, and the chime is the only real clue that you've actually done it. In fact, when I write up how-tos on older Macs(we have some at work running legacy hardware) and put in a diagnostic section, I always have to specify to keep holding the keys UNTIL you hear a second chime.
Many other boot options-like boot selector-have to be done before the chime. Again, it serves more of a function than just adding to the Mac experience.
The watch is still present in Sierra. I see it most often in Lightroom and other Adobe products, but not the beach ball is still not the universal catch-all for waiting on the system to finish a process.