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Classic Mac Startup Chime Not Present in New MacBook Pros
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I'm sure no one cares, but this reporting is completely wrong about the history.
The current sound is in no sense a "pitch-shifted" version of the Quadra startup. This is the Quadra startup.
As you can hear, it's not the same thing at all-- you don't "pitch-shift" that to get the current one!
Neither was the current startup sound first heard on the iMac G3. It was first heard on the Power Macintosh 601/603 series, which predates the G3 processor itself by several years, much less the iMac G3 (which was a consumer version of what had previously been a pro-level chip).
If you're gonna talk history, you have to at least be partially correct.
Oh, and as for this news - it sucks in my opinion. The startup sound might annoy people occasionally but it's part of the Mac's "soul" if there is any left. Now it's gone and won't come back -- along with the glowing logo, the sleep indicator, the magsafe, the charging light, and the gray screen. I think it's the kind of small change that, while not very meaningful, has a certain miserable connotation. Apple ignores the Mac enough as it is.
The current sound is in no sense a "pitch-shifted" version of the Quadra startup. This is the Quadra startup.
Neither was the current startup sound first heard on the iMac G3. It was first heard on the Power Macintosh 601/603 series, which predates the G3 processor itself by several years, much less the iMac G3 (which was a consumer version of what had previously been a pro-level chip).
If you're gonna talk history, you have to at least be partially correct.
Oh, and as for this news - it sucks in my opinion. The startup sound might annoy people occasionally but it's part of the Mac's "soul" if there is any left. Now it's gone and won't come back -- along with the glowing logo, the sleep indicator, the magsafe, the charging light, and the gray screen. I think it's the kind of small change that, while not very meaningful, has a certain miserable connotation. Apple ignores the Mac enough as it is.
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They are removing all the charm that made Apple, Apple. I noticed it first with iOS 7, and the more time that passes, they remove more and more things that made them stand out in the first place. It's these little things that make them special and they are just ruining it. They are now just another tech company, albeit a popular, bland, and expensive one.
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It's a pity. The chime was something part of the "being different" of the mac; removing it it's another step to "depersonalise" the Macintosh.
It's your opinion, Sir, but I strongly disagree with you. Cook for long time has followed a path designed when SJ was still alive; now Apple have to go without a chief that, before everything, really love the product, and, in that specific case, what was the meaning and the heritage of the startup chime. And, there's already a lot of posts here at MR about what the new MacBook Pro is missing, there's no need that I repeat it. (btw: https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/26/2016-macbook-pro-comment/ )
It will be a great product? It will have a wonderful Monitor with amazing colours? New large trackpad will work in a fantastic way? I'm quite sure that "yes" is the answer for all the three questions, because as you wrote "great product they STILL are", but Apple is going in the wrong direction, and Tim Cook is one of the people that are planning it.
It's your opinion, Sir, but I strongly disagree with you. Cook for long time has followed a path designed when SJ was still alive; now Apple have to go without a chief that, before everything, really love the product, and, in that specific case, what was the meaning and the heritage of the startup chime. And, there's already a lot of posts here at MR about what the new MacBook Pro is missing, there's no need that I repeat it. (btw: https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/26/2016-macbook-pro-comment/ )
It will be a great product? It will have a wonderful Monitor with amazing colours? New large trackpad will work in a fantastic way? I'm quite sure that "yes" is the answer for all the three questions, because as you wrote "great product they STILL are", but Apple is going in the wrong direction, and Tim Cook is one of the people that are planning it.
The world really has turned into a cesspool of conspicuous over-consuming whiners. George Carlin (RIP) predicted this over 10 years ago, and he nailed it perfectly. Some of the over-dramatic, hyperbolic doom-and-gloom responses to this.... wow. I'm getting eye-strain from the amount of rolling...
You are right about that. We can't compare Steve (the "Apple") and Tim ("the Orange").
No I don't, but my likes to post ratio seems to suggest i'm more welcome than you
Facebook fever?
I believe I have never heard windows 10 startup sound. How could you hear that?
I do, when Mac is becoming too hot or way too slow.
Other than that, it is not even in sleep mode. Screen on logged in 7/24.
Are you on a PCI-E SSD or SSD? It's not loud and long like prior sounds. It took me a few months before I heard it going from post to the desktop coming up. It sounds like a phaser from a distance.
That is even more ridiculous.
Maybe the one that is out now uses legacy parts and has it still in the (almost said toolbox..lol) firmware. The new ones with the touchbar may not have the sound at all. That could be the reason you can enable it on the current model, they disabled it by default to make it match the others. Hopefully we will find out if that is the case soon enough.
They got rid of the sound to save battery.
(just like the 32gb option)
(just like the 32gb option)
Most college students buy expensive computers with student loans. Then try to get out of the loans later in life. That's another thread.
It’s still a beautiful piece of hardware with rather nicely integrated software. But for the price, not worth it. Going to hold onto my mid 2014 rMBP for now, st least until they hopefully bump up the specs next summer.
I do this ALL the time. When I leave my place I turn off my gear including the laptop. There's no reason to close the lid.
I do the same in my office. In addition to my workstations I have a laptop on my desk that goes from room to room with me. When I'm done it's back on my desk unless I take it to a meeting out of the building.
Just to chime in:
I have always thought the start-up chime was an homage to the last chord of "A Day in the Life" by the Beatles.
Plus a little Steve Jobs humor regarding the last line of lyrics in the song..."I'd love to turn you on."
One last unrelated association is the Beatles' Apple Corps Ltd. for those old enough to know or remember it.
How is this ignoring the Mac?
If they were ignoring it they would just bump the specs. I think what we are seeing now is the post Jobs era of the Mac. Maybe I'm in a minority but I love the look and features of this and think it's a stunning looking machine and can't wait for mint to arrive.
Actually, I heard Steve Jobs wanted this when he tested the first MacBook Air and got pissed off that it didn't wake instantly when he opened it.
Because of the chime? How this remotely makes sense? And if not, how is this related to the OP?
In what rabbit hole of nonsense have you guys plummeted?
For me the chime meant only one thing: rebooting to solve software problems.
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I agree, it's a new apple now, I have chosen to stick with them, I love my iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch, I'm hoping and trusting I'm going to love my new 15" MBP, the question is can you love the new Apple?
When Apple starts selling appliance like kitchen knife rather than mbp and idevices, I hope you can answer that question because I know Martha Stewart can.
And changing to all USB-C ports and make sure they are symmetrical on both side is also the most ruthless Steve Jobs thing ever.
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Or there had been a power cut and my iMac was automatically rebooting, at full volume, scaring the life out of me
Just because it starts up instantly doesn't mean they can't keep the sound. But of course it's old and it takes courage to get rid of it. Such a waste!