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Display of Flash Content in iPad Promo Materials Likely Not Indicative of Actual Flash Compatibility
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The only thing I can say I honestly feel about the iPad is that it is a couple years overdue. Apple's time for the tablet came and went and now they are trying to act like they have revolutionized some new niche hardware market. We've had tablets in our hospital for almost 2 years now, made by INmotion and running on Windows. Granted, you need a stylus for it but that's not a big deal. People were calling for Apple to make a tablet for a long time and they dismissed those folks. Now they decide to come out with it and instead of being revolutionary its just a device based off and created from the iPhone/Touch. Seems a bit backward to me.
So it's Apple's way or the highway, eh?
Wow, sounds awfully hypocritical (going through iTunes to buy music/TV/movies/apps) and typical Apple being petty in not accepting something that is used on (A WHOPPING!) 75% of all websites.Quite enraging, the Apple cult mentality.
Oh, can it be true???
As a web developer since 1994, I am going to be glad when Flash finally dies. I do not feel like spending over $400.00 for a product to make ONE feature of a web site. True, there are other cheaper applications that let you do SOME Flash stuff, but I am all for learning HTML5 and the other technologies to get rid of Flash altogether.
Here's hoping!
Dan
As a web developer since 1994, I am going to be glad when Flash finally dies. I do not feel like spending over $400.00 for a product to make ONE feature of a web site. True, there are other cheaper applications that let you do SOME Flash stuff, but I am all for learning HTML5 and the other technologies to get rid of Flash altogether.
Here's hoping!
Dan
He nailed it. That's the only explanation I've heard from a third-party that sounds reasonable. Apple doesn't want the iPhone and iPad user experience sullied by crappy Flash performance causing the browser to load sites slowly and crash, and if Adobe won't invest the time and money to improve it, so be it. I couldn't agree more.
more than a netbook
I guess what many of us wanted was something that is more than a netbook, more than an ipod, but in a easy to transport and highly useful tablet configuration. I think they missed the point. If it's larger than an ipod and comes close to laptop size, then why not make it in essence a touch screen laptop?
I'd pay $1,500 or more for something like it if it had full (low end) laptop functionality, if I could put it on it's stand, hook a keyboard and mouse up to it at home and use it like I would a low powered home computer to run Quickbooks, fool around with simple Photoshop stuff, and if I really wanted to push it, make some simple cut edits in FCP using OfflineRT, and then unhook it take it in the living room using it's touchscreen goodness to tool around on the internet, check email, or take it on a plane and watch movies or play games to pass the time like you would an ipod.
That's where I think they missed the boat on this one, functionality. I'd gladly pay double, or tripple for this device if it could replace or combine 2 or 3 devices I use every day in one really nice package. And for goodness sake, stop with the lack of expandable storage. Give the freaking thing a sd card slot.
I guess what many of us wanted was something that is more than a netbook, more than an ipod, but in a easy to transport and highly useful tablet configuration. I think they missed the point. If it's larger than an ipod and comes close to laptop size, then why not make it in essence a touch screen laptop?
I'd pay $1,500 or more for something like it if it had full (low end) laptop functionality, if I could put it on it's stand, hook a keyboard and mouse up to it at home and use it like I would a low powered home computer to run Quickbooks, fool around with simple Photoshop stuff, and if I really wanted to push it, make some simple cut edits in FCP using OfflineRT, and then unhook it take it in the living room using it's touchscreen goodness to tool around on the internet, check email, or take it on a plane and watch movies or play games to pass the time like you would an ipod.
That's where I think they missed the boat on this one, functionality. I'd gladly pay double, or tripple for this device if it could replace or combine 2 or 3 devices I use every day in one really nice package. And for goodness sake, stop with the lack of expandable storage. Give the freaking thing a sd card slot.
if there's no flash support how could Steve promote watching HD YouTube videos?
Because he's a fraud and if it were the other way around and it was Bill Gates doing this, you KNOW the rabid fanboys here would call for the tar and feathers. And fanboys wonder why they're so hated.
Enhancing the image so it's more vibrant (using post-production CGI) is ONE thing. FALSE ADVERTISEMENT (showing images you can't duplicate once you have it in your grubby mitts) is another! I'd like to see the FTC investigate this actually.
Apple makes a hardware platform and an OS. The vendors make the software. Flash is not available on ARM yet. iPad and iPhone is ARM. When Adobe makes it available it will be available. Adobe supports Apple products.
You can totally put a Blu-Ray drive on a Mac. It is not a stock item, or a BTO item, but it is attachable by any of several means.
I see your rage, but it seems vastly misplaced.
On the Flash issue in particular, Adobe is preparing a rev cycle. Gee, I wonder if the release date is the same as the iPad itself in about 2 months?
Rocketman
A.) Because I could use the money (a bit less) now than later (a bit more)
B.) So I could buy a bunch of these nice iPads
C.) I can't do the the math
Answer A FTW
Plus with Obama at the helm for now, and who knows, I don't want my capital gains increased through the roof.
Good idea, let's sue Apple, and while we're at it, let's sue all the brewers whose commercials show us that consuming their beverages make us uber-charismatic girl magnets, too!
Edit: At the same time, I hope Apple does not distribute any promotional materials that in any way suggest that this device can do things that it cannot.
And to Microsoap: the videos of people having hand-on time with the device have shown it playing YouTube videos. I believe YouTube has converted much of its library to H.264 format.
Screw proprietary iTunes Store. There ya go. How's it feel now? iTunes dom's one section of the Internet, it's fine. Flash dom's one section of the Internet, it's a global tragedy. Ah, the hypocrisy of it all.
Where in the iPad promo materials have you seen the "Made for Flash" logo? Or "Made with Flash" or "Supports Flash." Maybe it's a proof of concept item from Apple? Maybe one guy is working on the concept of allowing flash on an Apple mobile device? What a concept.
Just as every mag photoshops, video production "vidshops" as well. You make your product look as pretty as it can be. The iPad video was showing you what it's like to browse. They could have showed the Microsoft Update site as well, just to show you how to navigate. Doesn't mean they support ActiveX.
Ever see those cereal commercials? They used to use white glue for the milk, as it produces the whitest white, more so than milk. Don't know what they use now. On camera, you want things to look great. I wonder what tricks McDonalds uses to make their food pictures so enticing... as well all know we've never seen a Big Mac look as good in person as it does in the picture. Are they lying?
Did you even read the article or just skim through it to parts you liked? Flash performances issues can easily be resolved provided that Apple allows third-party developers to make use of GPU acceleration. They do not want to let that happen though and want to force everyone to use the Quicktime APIs. Now, the only good argument that has been provided which explains this behavior is that Apple wants the Quicktime APIs to be the main source for video playback because it is touchscreen compatible, whereas if they opened up GPU acceleration to flash for example, though performance issues would be fixed, there would still be the problem of there being incompatible with touchscreen input. In other words, as far as I can see, the fight is being fought for the sake of the future of touchscreen capacities.
Don't get me wrong: I love Apple and am a Mac user from way back. But what in the world is the problem with Apple not wanting to support Flash on it's mobile devices??? Doesn't anybody have a clue? I mean it's way obvious that a vast majority of websites use Flash in one form or another. Particularly in the case of streaming video content that was archived. I just can't figure out why Apple (read: Steve Jobs) would have against Flash?! Is it Adobe? Did they do something, eg like the CEO of McGraw Publishers???
It is about control. Apple would lose control of development on the iPhone/iPod/iPad if they allowed Flash and Java. They make money off of the App store and they want to keep it that way. Plus the fewer the development tools the easier it is to control the whole quality experience as Apple stated Flash is slow.
I don't own an iPhone or iPod Touch, but it would be telling if Apple allows other browsesr to even exist on the iPhone OS. Could anyone shed light on that? That might be the real reason Google opted to create the Chrome OS. They couldn't install their Chrome browser on the iPhone OS thus controlling ad placements etc.
It doesn't have to actually say it has flash enabled, but going to a website that runs flash and there is video, then yes, that is saying (by visuals) that it runs flash.
And to then be "mocking up" flash sites within an Apple gallery to look like certain flash based sites is a scam. Lets not forgot its not the first time Apple has tried these kind of marketing tricks either.
"Best browsing experience ever" ring any bells? My "best browsing experience" doesn't include boxes marked with missing content. I want the whole internet
"Best browsing experience ever" ring any bells? My "best browsing experience" doesn't include boxes marked with missing content. I wan't the whole internet
Not only that he explicitly said if there is going to be a market for this kind of device it will have to do browsing better than a smartphone or a laptop. Now ask yourselves this: Is there anything that can be browsed on the ipad that can't be on a mac? What about the other way around? Conclusion: ipad is far from a better browsing experience.
Flash? Meh.
Apart from the adverts, can't think of a single website i have lost that i haven't found a better version of.
there is youtube and soundcloud is working on a workaround.
What else am i missing?
Apart from the adverts, can't think of a single website i have lost that i haven't found a better version of.
there is youtube and soundcloud is working on a workaround.
What else am i missing?
75% of the Internet would be some of the most popular mainstream sites you visit (CNN.com).
http://www.tgdaily.com/consumer-electronics-brief/48253-even-hitler-criticizes-ipads-lack-of-flash
* http://www.pcworld.com/article/188135/will_we_ever_see_flash_on_the_ipad_probably_not.html
* http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/01/ipad-flash.html
Oh, but Flash is just for adverisements. Sure.