DisplayMate: iPhone XS Max Has Best Smartphone Display Ever

[Baymowe335]

So Apple's new display is so amazing it makes 720p videos look better than 1080p videos?

If that's true they should have spent 20 minutes at the keynote explaining how this legitimately revolutionary technology works.

From a defined distance, 720P will look no different than 1080P and a quality 720P display with correct colors, contrast, and brightness can absolutely look better than a trash 1080P display.

See how that could work?

If your theory were true, all TVs would look the same regardless of brand.

 

[Khedron]

From a defined distance, 720P will look no different than 1080P and a quality 720P display with correct colors, contrast, and brightness can absolutely look better than a trash 1080P display.

See how that could work?

If your theory were true, all TVs would look the same regardless of brand.

Oh, so people who think the new display looks worse are just holding it wrong (too close)? Figures.

 

[Baymowe335]

Oh, so people who think the new display looks worse are just holding it wrong (too close)? Figures.

What new display looks worse?

 

[Khedron]

What new display looks worse?

The XR display that can only show videos in 720p with the same pixel density as the 8 year old iPhone 4.

I suppose the presence of the notch compared to the notchless 8 Plus somehow also looks better?

 

[Shanghaichica]

So Apple's new display is so amazing it makes 720p videos look better than 1080p videos did on a display that was best in class just 1 year ago?

If that's true they should have spent 20 minutes at the keynote explaining how this legitimately revolutionary technology works.

The Xr hasn’t been tested yet because it’s not out yet. The review is for the Max.

 

[FFR]

The XR display that can only show videos in 720p with the same pixel density as the 8 year old iPhone 4.

I suppose the presence of the notch compared to the notchless 8 Plus somehow also looks better?

Same ppi but not the same resolution.

Big difference.

I love the 8 plus favorite iPhone design, but the max is another beast. Face ID and edge to edge display with no chin, that’s just gravy.

It’s extremely immersive.

 

[x-evil-x]

This makes me interested to see if the XR really is “the best LCD in the industry.”

People will still complain about it though.

Because it’s it’s the same ppi as a 2010 iPhone 4 3.5” phone. It’s a 6.1” phone. There is plenty to complain about that.

 

[Feenician]

Because it’s it’s the same ppi as a 2010 iPhone 4 3.5” phone. It’s a 6.1” phone. There is plenty to complain about that.

It's also the same ppi as 2017's 4.7 inch iPhone 8 display. What does the size have to do with anything? That's now how PPI works.

 

[ppdix]

Great news. I love the screen on my new XSM!
But it looks like DisplayMate hasn't updated the design of their website since 1990!

 

[Khedron]

It's also the same ppi as 2017's 4.7 inch iPhone 8 display. What does the size have to do with anything? That's now how PPI works.

23% less PPI than the iPhone 8 Plus and incapable of displaying 1080p videos. A significant downgrade that exists only to pad Apple's margins.

 

[Justanotherfanboy]

So Apple's new display is so amazing it makes 720p videos look better than 1080p videos did on a display that was best in class just 1 year ago?

If that's true they should have spent 20 minutes at the keynote explaining how this legitimately revolutionary technology works.

I dunno. (just like you!)
I’ve never seen one. (just like you!)

Only difference is: I’m waiting to hear an honest & scientific report from DisplayMate, after the release... you know, rather than pretending that I know something I don’t & posting my opinion, as if it was fact- on an open forum.

You MAY be right!
But as of right now, you haven’t a clue.
Please don’t pretend otherwise.

I quite honestly, have the opinion that 828p on a 6.1” screen vs 1080p on a 5.5” screen will be visually indistinguishable at a distance greater than a foot & a half, or so... but I await evidence before making such an actual claim.

 

[OTACORB]

Fake news it has a piss yellow tint hue and brightness keeps diming using it and auto brightless and true tone night shift is OFF Loads are having this issue

All you ever seem to do is whine and complain. Take the darn thing back and go Android Pape!! LOL

 

[Feenician]

23% less PPI than the iPhone 8 Plus and incapable of displaying 1080p videos. A significant downgrade that exists only to pad Apple's margins.

Who was complaining about the PPI on an iPhone 8 last year?

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16323570/apple-new-iphone-8-review-plus-2017

Apple’s added True Tone tech to the iPhone 8 display, which first appeared on the iPad Pro. I’ve always thought the iPhone LCD was the best overall display on the market in terms of color accuracy, and True Tone just makes it look better, by measuring ambient light with sensors on the front of the phone and adjusting color temperature on the fly. You won’t notice it working while it’s on, but if you obsessively click the button on and off under most indoor lighting you’ll see things warm up a little when it’s active.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...urious-case-of-the-time-traveling-phone/3/#h1

OLED might be the new wave, but the iPhone 7 had one of the best LCD displays available in a smartphone, and that still applies to the iPhone 8. While some smartphone manufacturers tested the waters with OLED as far back as a few years ago, Apple has focused on providing excellent color accuracy in its displays—something that OLED was not always very good at until more recently.

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Deep blacks, bright future—where OLED screens go from here
The new phones’ basic specifications are the same as those of the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus—they’re IPS screens with 1334×750 and 1920×1080 resolutions for the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, respectively, along with 1400:1 and 1300:1 contrast ratios. Last year’s models brought the move to DCI-P3 for a wider color gamut. It was a noticeable improvement, and you still get that here. But there’s nothing dramatically different about this display as compared to the iPhone 7.

It's a good display. Not cutting edge, but good. Suddenly acting like it's the worst thing ever is concern trolling. Plain and simple.

As for "incapable of displaying 1080p videos" what is it you think happens? Do you think 1080p video selections will be grayed out or something? Video can very much be played at non-native resolutions and 1080p videos will still look better than 720p videos on the 828p display.

The attempt to make this a meme is transparent and a pretty sad way to spend your time.

 

[stafil]

All you ever seem to do is whine and complain. Take the darn thing back and go Android Pape!! LOL

Why would someone come to the forum if not for complaining..

 

[Feenician]

I quite honestly, have the opinion that 828p on a 6.1” screen vs 1080p on a 5.5” screen will be visually indistinguishable at a distance greater than a foot & a half, or so... but I await evidence before making such an actual claim.

The physical size of the display doesn't make a difference. It's 326ppi and is "perfectly sharp" in the scientific sense that pixels cannot be resolved by someone with 20/20 vision at a distance of 11 inches.

Source: DisplayMate review of iPhone 7

 

[Khedron]

Who was complaining about the PPI on an iPhone 8 last year?

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16323570/apple-new-iphone-8-review-plus-2017



https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...urious-case-of-the-time-traveling-phone/3/#h1


It's a good display. Not cutting edge, but good. Suddenly acting like it's the worst thing ever is concern trolling. Plain and simple.

As for "incapable of displaying 1080p videos" what is it you think happens? Do you think 1080p video selections will be grayed out or something? Video can very much be played at non-native resolutions and 1080p videos will still look better than 720p videos on the 828p display.

The attempt to make this a meme is transparent and a pretty sad way to spend your time.

The YouTube app won't give XR users the option of 1080p so no it won't look better than 720p.

It won't be a disgusting display but for Apple to claim it's the best LCD on a smartphone is simply a lie. Just like they lie that their glass is the most durable which is theoretically and practically disproven.

 

[Justanotherfanboy]

The YouTube app won't give XR users the option of 1080p so no it won't look better than 720p.

It won't be a disgusting display but for Apple to claim it's the best LCD on a smartphone is simply a lie

Well... that is, unless it turns out to be the best LCD on a smartphone! =)

Can’t wait to find out!!!

Lol, notice you’re the only one making some weird big deal about 720p vs 1080p videos on sub 7” devices...
Making 100% unfounded claims about what will look better, etc.

I see everyone here EXCEPT for you, sharing honest opinions & not making anything up.
I’m pretty sure claiming you know things that you don’t falls squarely into the definition of lying- so you might want to be really cautious w/ that word, as that’s pretty much all you’ve posted here so far.... just saying. *shrug*

 

[puma1552]

So with a target temp of 6500K and finally being right on it after sliding year after year from 7200K on the iPhone 6, does that mean we are FINALLY done with screens getting warmer every single year?

The downside to this is it's pretty clear we will never, EVER get a screen from Apple any cooler than 6500K. I like a much cooler screen, accuracy be damned. My 6 was stunning.

 

[alemany]

Ok, let me burst all of you that perfect bubble... with arguments.

iPhone XS Max's benchmarks aren't wrong. But what's the point of saying it's the best ever, if you don't mention any other competition (with better numbers by the way)? I'll tell you why: sensationalism.

Where the iPhone XS Max reaches 660 nits in the sRGB and DCI-P3 color gamuts, the Note9 reaches 710 nits at full screen ratio, not to mention that the screen is capable of 825 nits of brightness in situations where 50% of the display is active (aka not black), which shows you that it has brightness distribution capabilities depending on the entire screen used ... something that no iPhone has.

However, these are just units of brightness. They have nothing to do with quality and sharpness of the screen. That is given by pixel density and in that department the Note9 also exceeds the iPhone XS Max (516 ppi vs 458 ppi).

And I want to be clear, I'm just a regular and modest stock Android / Pixel user, ok? I have no sympathy for Samsung. But facts are facts, specially when you do some simple fact checking... something people don't do nowadays.

Just keep the joy inside your nice Just don't pretend you have the best screen.

Peace.



PS: I'm just getting the facts from DisplayMate, the same DisplayMate MacRumors mention.

 

[miniyou64]

Thank you! I had to return my XS today

Here is a quick test for determining if PWM Flicker is present on a display:
https://iristech.co/how-to-test-my-monitor-for-pwm-flicker/

 

[joelhinch]

The old x is much higher brightness than my xs max i think apple limit it to make batt better

Thought I was the only one. It’s not even summer yet in Aus and the XS Max screen SUCKS outdoors at full brightness compared to the X.

 

[FFR]

Ok, let me burst all of you that perfect bubble... with arguments.

iPhone XS Max's benchmarks aren't wrong. But what's the point of saying it's the best ever, if you don't mention any other competition (with better numbers by the way)? I'll tell you why: sensationalism.

Where the iPhone XS Max reaches 660 nits in the sRGB and DCI-P3 color gamuts, the Note9 reaches 710 nits at full screen ratio, not to mention that the screen is capable of 825 nits of brightness in situations where 50% of the display is active (aka not black), which shows you that it has brightness distribution capabilities depending on the entire screen used ... something that no iPhone has.

However, these are just units of brightness. They have nothing to do with quality and sharpness of the screen. That is given by pixel density and in that department the Note9 also exceeds the iPhone XS Max (516 ppi vs 458 ppi).

And I want to be clear, I'm just a regular and modest stock Android / Pixel user, ok? I have no sympathy for Samsung. But facts are facts, specially when you do some simple fact checking... something people don't do nowadays.

Just keep the joy inside your nice Just don't pretend you have the best screen.

Peace.



PS: I'm just getting the facts from DisplayMate, the same DisplayMate MacRumors mention.

Are those average or peak?

 

[Feenician]

Ok, let me burst all of you that perfect bubble... with arguments.

iPhone XS Max's benchmarks aren't wrong. But what's the point of saying it's the best ever, if you don't mention any other competition (with better numbers by the way)? I'll tell you why: sensationalism.

Where the iPhone XS Max reaches 660 nits in the sRGB and DCI-P3 color gamuts, the Note9 reaches 710 nits at full screen ratio, not to mention that the screen is capable of 825 nits of brightness in situations where 50% of the display is active (aka not black), which shows you that it has brightness distribution capabilities depending on the entire screen used ... something that no iPhone has.

However, these are just units of brightness. They have nothing to do with quality and sharpness of the screen. That is given by pixel density and in that department the Note9 also exceeds the iPhone XS Max (516 ppi vs 458 ppi).

And I want to be clear, I'm just a regular and modest stock Android / Pixel user, ok? I have no sympathy for Samsung. But facts are facts, specially when you do some simple fact checking... something people don't do nowadays.

Just keep the joy inside your nice Just don't pretend you have the best screen.

Peace.



PS: I'm just getting the facts from DisplayMate, the same DisplayMate MacRumors mention.

What are you even saying here? That display ate didn't make a comparative check using displaymate?

The iPhone XS Max has an impressive Top Tier display with close to Text Book Perfect Calibration and Performance!

Based on our extensive Lab Tests and Measurements the iPhone XS Max receives our DisplayMate Best Smartphone Display Award earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade by providing considerably better display performance than other competing Smartphones.

 

[Baymowe335]

The XR display that can only show videos in 720p with the same pixel density as the 8 year old iPhone 4.

I suppose the presence of the notch compared to the notchless 8 Plus somehow also looks better?

The Xr hasnt been tested and as discussed, a good 720p display will look better than a trash 1080p display.

The iPad pro 10.5 screen is 264ppi and looks fantastic. The Xr had a 6.1 inch 326 ppi screen. It's will look great and be color accurate. Size will be a huge difference and ppi doesn't matter as I demonstrated with the still inferior ppi iPad pro that looks GREAT.

 

[Feenician]

The YouTube app won't give XR users the option of 1080p

This is wrong. It gives the option of 1080p on a 6s. I just tested.