I'm a buy-new kinda guy, so I'm really all about the X. Lack of Touch ID is the only thing holding me back really, so I'll wait for in-depth reviews of Face ID before I make my decision.
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I'm a buy-new kinda guy, so I'm really all about the X. Lack of Touch ID is the only thing holding me back really, so I'll wait for in-depth reviews of Face ID before I make my decision.
We humans usually do not take change well and the iPhone X is a paradigm shift! iPhone 1 through 8 has been an evolutionary - X changes everything and folks are nervous.
The notch does not really bother me much and I am sure developers will be creative with it. I personally like the gestures (reminds me of my beloved Palm Pre)! FaceID is up in the air - if only Apple would doing something like bluetooth trusted devices on Android. That way when my apple watch is on me, it will remain unlocked.
The notch does not really bother me much and I am sure developers will be creative with it. I personally like the gestures (reminds me of my beloved Palm Pre)! FaceID is up in the air - if only Apple would doing something like bluetooth trusted devices on Android. That way when my apple watch is on me, it will remain unlocked.
I feel pretty confident about it. I think it will take a little getting used to as you have to look at it for a split second, but I think the overall feel of the implementation should be pretty natural. Look and swipe. After watching some of the hands on videos, I don't think it'll be an issue for me. Most of the new gestures I think is what will take more getting used to. I am with you though, the design, size, and OLED is just too tempting.
If we are going to throw logic out the window and embrace the "everything is drama to me" kind of mentality then I can see why you are so offended.
Then again you have been on this site for 6 months. I guess before then you were an Apple "hater." That makes me sad.
Mike
Maybe Apple could switch it out? I feel like they would be quick to fix a home button issue as it likely wasn't caused by you. I think it would be great if they did an updated SE that took design cues from the 6-8.
I would venture that most people do know the difference between hate and opinion. Not you of course, but most people.
Mike
Yeah, I'll probably go that route, I don't see myself getting up 3:00am EST, to order something I'm not really all excited to buy
I would assume we'll see refurbished 7s from Apple some time soon, and that might be about the same price as used ones currently are.
Ten years ago, I stood in line to purchase the wonder of the age. My spouse declined, her flip phone was enough. That evening, as I played with the first iPhone, she decided we'd made a terrible mistake. We were back in line the next morning.
Those phones maxed out at 8 GB, one color, and only worked on AT&Tingular. No third-party apps, 2.5G Edge service, no front-facing camera, and so on. Yet they were still a marvel, years ahead of any other.
Now, a scant ten years later, comes miracle and wonder that fits into your pocket. The number of features and improvements in only ten years boggles the mind and would fill more pages than you want to read. Just a single example: The cameras have gone from showing what is there to now showing what is not there (Animoji and Augmented Reality).
Can another mobile do this? Probably, but another mobile device doesn't run iOS. It doesn't automagically sync all of my phones, my songs, my desktop, etc. to itself. It doesn't protect my privacy.
So include me as someone who is dumfounded by people complaining that the latest advances in the most revolutionary tech ever developed is somehow disappointing because it doesn't come in peppermint.
And you obviously haven’t read this entire thread and are merely skimming to pick pieces you want to throw at me. If my tenure on this site is the best you have to jab at you’ve got bigger problems. I’ve been an Apple user for over 20 years. What is sad is the frustration you must feel when you come to pick a fight and someone turns their back and walks away. That just happened.
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I don't know. I really don't see a bunch of hate. I see people annoyed by some of the decisions Apple made with the new device and even the decision to release the 8 as well.
I see people who wanted to love the X and simply can't bring themselves to do it because of things they see as flaws. Hell, I was ready to ditch Android and give iOS a try again with this new X, but I can't get past the no fingerprint reader and I cannot stand that notch. But I certainly don't want a "not even released yet, but already a version behind 8" phone either.
So in reality, I don't see a lot of hate. I see a lot more frustration than anything quite frankly. It's too bad, but it's the plain 'ol truth.
I see people who wanted to love the X and simply can't bring themselves to do it because of things they see as flaws. Hell, I was ready to ditch Android and give iOS a try again with this new X, but I can't get past the no fingerprint reader and I cannot stand that notch. But I certainly don't want a "not even released yet, but already a version behind 8" phone either.
So in reality, I don't see a lot of hate. I see a lot more frustration than anything quite frankly. It's too bad, but it's the plain 'ol truth.
I don’t think people are disputing the tech, Moore’s Law has always been relevant in all areas of tech.
It’s the way Apple twist the knife each year.
It’s like having a best friend that cheats with your wife and you begrudgingly forgive them only for it to happen again. At some point enough is enough.
Apple have bled customers dry, MacBook pros have turned into coffee shop pros, we same the same iteration slightly modified each year but for a large increase in cost. Let alone inconsistencies between USD and CAD and UK Sterling for instance and he special extra Apple tax on top.
In the last few days alone, the 8 plus 256gb has seen a $30 decrease from its 7+ brethen, the UK 8 plus has seen a £30 increase over the same 7 plus, this is in no way brexit related just milking of customers.
It’s all the little niggles that add up and the X has broke the donkeys back.
This is not hate just mass disappointment from a long time Apple fan, who has seen vision that Apple have produced and products they want to enhance people’s lives, now its more about how much more $’s can be extracted rather than features put into products.
Perhaps. But most of the "new" features coming to the latest iphones have already been out on the Samsung 8 models which were available last spring. Apple seems to be following rather than leading.
Besides a stylus, what features did the Note 8 bring from the S8 to justify a $200 price jump?
I don’t disagree that there are issues at camp Apple. This has been a long time coming. Since Steve’s passing things have been veering down a path that I’m most certainly concerned by.
That's exactly why so many of us are so critical of Apple... remember Apple used to be ahead of everyone by at least 2-3 years, now they are behind by that much, OLED, inductive charging (8 years behind!!), etc. And then they do disgusting stuff for profit, like keeping 16GB iPhones for almost 10 years even though storage costs had gone down exponentially, or the fast charge fiasco of iPhone X, requiring almost $75 with adapter+cable.
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Apple justified it. It’s a trend started by Apple. Now every tom, dick and harry is going sky high with phone prices.
At least they can tout a Quad HD screen with 522ppi, heck even the 7 edge has a better OLED than the X. What have Apple exactly gained from going OLED from LCD?
Awesome. Protesting with your wallet. The right thing to do. Brilliant!
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I disagree. Apple were never “ahead”. They just did things better. I’m sorry but even Steve was known to take other’s ideas and perfect them. The problem with the new Apple is a lot of their releases are half baked and would have never gotten signed off on by Steve.
I thought the Note came out before the X? Apple gained a higher resolution and better quality screen for the people that prefer iOS. I think that's huge. It comes down to platform, it doesn't matter to me if another Android phone had it first or has a slightly better version, they run Android.
This is a really important point that many who are praising the X are missing. I have an S7 Edge. It's more than a year old now and the screen is STILL better than the phone Apple hasn't even released yet, as their flagship. To some that may not be important I suppose, but it's a pretty big $1000 price tag with that "not better" screen you are getting.
Yeah, I was just answering why Samsung prices the note 8 higher.
Why did Apple price the X higher than the 8 Plus?
I think you are seeing the after affects of those who waited, holding their breath, hoping, and eagerly awaiting Apple's next big thing. The hype was intense. The speculation was unending. The rumors were all over the place.
I recently read an article that when people want something really bad, they become anxious, nervous, frustrated, and sometimes irritable with anticipation. When the product they were waiting for arrives it's not so much the product itself that gives them release, but the release they feel from not having to wait any longer. In the case of Apple, their expectations were so high based on what Apple has done in the past, maybe their frustration has not fully dissipated, since the new products were not what they were hoping for or expecting. As a result, the frustration becomes verbal. I agree, I have been guilty of negativity and disappointment as well, and the complaining here goes on long after a new product is released. Maybe since we all know it takes Apple SOOOO long to revise a product (Mac Mini, Mac Pro), the frustration builds and is compounded.
Or maybe we are just a bunch of spoiled whiney consumers.