I deleted Epic Launcher and Fortnite from my Mac. Bye Epic! TBH I barely ever played it anyway.
So without apples 30% tax, the consumer still pays $10 for 1000 V-Bucks, so again why should the consumer care about Apples % again?
I could argue with that, but I assumed you were not serious about it.You cant argue this would be a great move for the consumer right? Which after all epic wants whats best for the consumer
This is the exact walled garden I purchased. I don’t want competing app stores on my phone. I don’t want side loading or multiple payment methods. I want security and apps “that just work.” This is not due to technical incompetence. I’m a tech professional with an education in programming. If I wanted to futz with my phone after a long day of futzing with a number of systems at work, I’d buy an android phone or make my own phone out of an Rpi or something.
This is what you pay for with Apple. This is what you get with Apple. Curation and management. If you don’t like it, you bought the wrong product. I intentionally don’t have any android devices so when the masses of people I work with screw them up and come to me for help, I can tell them I haven’t got a clue how they work and suggest they contact “android support”. I almost never hear from the iOS people but when I do, Apple support is actually a real thing, with real people. That type of service doesn’t pay for itself.
Good luck parents of tweens and teens as your kids ask for android devices to play their game. Enjoy the headaches of fractured OS releases, bloat ware and that wonderful freedom you get to download un-vetted software.
This is the exact walled garden I purchased. I don’t want competing app stores on my phone. I don’t want side loading or multiple payment methods. I want security and apps “that just work.” This is not due to technical incompetence. I’m a tech professional with an education in programming. If I wanted to futz with my phone after a long day of futzing with a number of systems at work, I’d buy an android phone or make my own phone out of an Rpi or something.
This is what you pay for with Apple. This is what you get with Apple. Curation and management. If you don’t like it, you bought the wrong product. I intentionally don’t have any android devices so when the masses of people I work with screw them up and come to me for help, I can tell them I haven’t got a clue how they work and suggest they contact “android support”. I almost never hear from the iOS people but when I do, Apple support is actually a real thing, with real people. That type of service doesn’t pay for itself.
Good luck parents of tweens and teens as your kids ask for android devices to play their game. Enjoy the headaches of fractured OS releases, bloat ware and that wonderful freedom you get to download un-vetted software.
Exactly this I couldn't agree more, this is exactly how I feel and I truly believe the vast majority of apple users feel. Its such a shame that a minority of very vocal people want to turn iOS into Android, if they had just bought Samsung or google phones in the first place they could be enjoying their phones and open ecosystem instead of fighting to change iOS to suit their needs and ruining it for the rest of us in the processThis is the exact walled garden I purchased. I don’t want competing app stores on my phone. I don’t want side loading or multiple payment methods. I want security and apps “that just work.” This is not due to technical incompetence. I’m a tech professional with an education in programming. If I wanted to futz with my phone after a long day of futzing with a number of systems at work, I’d buy an android phone or make my own phone out of an Rpi or something.
This is what you pay for with Apple. This is what you get with Apple. Curation and management. If you don’t like it, you bought the wrong product. I intentionally don’t have any android devices so when the masses of people I work with screw them up and come to me for help, I can tell them I haven’t got a clue how they work and suggest they contact “android support”. I almost never hear from the iOS people but when I do, Apple support is actually a real thing, with real people. That type of service doesn’t pay for itself.
Good luck parents of tweens and teens as your kids ask for android devices to play their game. Enjoy the headaches of fractured OS releases, bloat ware and that wonderful freedom you get to download un-vetted software.
Exactly this I couldn't agree more, this is exactly how I feel and I truly believe the vast majority of apple users feel. Its such a shame that a minority of very vocal people want to turn iOS into Android, if they had just bought Samsung or google phones in the first place they could be enjoying their phones and open ecosystem instead of fighting to change iOS to suit their needs and ruining it for the rest of us in the process
The funny thing is they most like only get about half the value, the other half goes to the store that sells the cards...
I think they will realize they made a mistake. Apple is ready for this war.
It doesn't matter if he understand Android or not, the point is he likes iOS just the way it is.This is the typical way of thinking of someone who, indeed, does not know android. I say this without judging you negatively. I used to think and talk exactly like you. But I was wrong and you are wrong. These are just tools, android phones are not as crappy as how you describe and iPhones are not as perfect, at least at comparable prices.
Furthermore, you might not have realized it, but you already have multiple payment methods on your iOS devices. It is just more inconvenient because you cannot pay from the app and you need to register and pay using safari. That's how apps like kindle have worked since...forever. Netflix too works like that nowadays, for new accounts. And countless other. You can even buy Instagram ads directly from their app, without IAP, 30%, or apple payment methods. Apple is willing to make exceptions for some.
I think war is way too dramatic for this argument.
Well, it matters if someone compares iOS with Android like she/he did.It doesn't matter if he understand Android or not, the point is he likes iOS just the way it is.
Its not limited functionality its consolidated functionality. Epics goal is to have it own App Store, if it gets it wish it will then remove its app off the Apple App Store. Now if I want fortnite I have to join there store. Next Adboe set up its own store that I have to join that to get Photoshop, then join the Microsoft store to get word.Sooo... you're basically scared that your phone might have extra functionality??
I thought I seen it all.
Its great if people like different things and they have choices, my issue is people buying into iOS which is cleary wrong for them and then wanting fundamentally change it from the platform that we all originally bought into saying its best for the consumer.Well, it matters if someone compares iOS with Android like she/he did.
Apart from that, I totally agree with you, that people who are happy with iOS should stay with iOS (unless they are curious who try something new, which never hurts, I believe). I have been a happy iOS user for many years and a happy Mac user for MUCH longer. Then I started disliking both these platform, for several reasons. Around the same time my MacBook Air decided to die, fixing it was almost as expensive as buying a new one and so I looked somewhere else. It's nothing personal. Like I said, these are just tools.
There they go! You’d think they are marketing a new release- wait a minute..
Epic Games this evening sent out emails to Fortnite users on iPhone, iPad, and Mac to let them know that it will not be possible to play the newly released Marvel-themed season 4 content on their devices.
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In the email, Epic Games blames Apple's App Store fees for the unavailability of new content, even though Apple has said that if the direct payment option is removed and Fortnite obeys App Store policies, it can be updated and remain in the App Store while the legal battle between the two companies plays out in court. From the Epic Games email:Epic Games informs customers that they can still play the existing season 3 content, but progression is not possible and iOS and Mac players cannot play cross-platform with those on other devices. Players using Apple products cannot access the new cosmetic options, nor can they receive gifts from the new season unless they log into an alternate platform that has access to the season 4 content. Battle Lab, Duos, and LTMs are disabled on iOS, and iOS players are unable to complete new Quick Challenges and Style Challenges.
In lieu of iOS devices, Epic Games recommends customers play Fortnite on Android, PC, PlayStation, Xbox, or Nintendo Switch, and it directs customers to Apple to ask for refunds for in-app purchases.
Epic Games attempted to get a temporary restraining order that would force Apple to allow Fortnite updates to continue to be available on iOS devices and that would prevent Apple from terminating the Epic Games developer account, but the judge sided with Apple and did not grant a restraining order for Fortnite.
The judge overseeing the case told Epic Games' lawyers that all Epic needs to do "is take it back to the status quo and no one suffers any harm," but Epic has opted not to do so and is standing firm as Apple prepares to terminate its developer account. Epic lawyers in fact said that Epic "can't go back into an anticompetitive contract."
Apple said in mid-August that Epic would lose access to its developer account on August 28, which is tomorrow, so it looks like Fortnite will be unavailable for the foreseeable future as it appears neither side has plans to back down.
Apple was also going to block Epic from working on the Unreal Engine used by third-party developers, but Epic was able to successfully secure a restraining order to prevent that from happening. So while Apple is allowed to block Fortnite so long as Epic continues to violate App Store rules, it is not allowed to terminate the Epic International developer account and tools used for the Unreal Engine.
The next hearing in the Apple vs. Epic battle will take place on September 28, with Epic aiming for a preliminary injunction that will allow Fortnite back onto the App Store.
Article Link: Epic Games Sends Emails to Fortnite Players Blaming Apple for New Season's Unavailability
Apple should buy PUBG and offer it and all skins add ons for free on all platforms just to shut epic up