It wouldn't surprise me to find that the browsers are presented in a randomized order every time.
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This is what most people don't realise. Apple force Safari's webkit on browser devs for iOS. It's just a reskin...they can't innovate, they can't 'beat' Safari because they're locked out of doing so.
And then, if they pick Android, the phone would read, “Great Choice! Return this device to where you bought it from and enjoy your wonderful new Android device.”
And the EU would say that’s anti-competitive.
There’s nothing preventing any browser from actually, you know, becoming the BEST. Being so good at what it does that people tell other people and they tell people and so on and so on. It’s hard work making something people want to use. If a browser is not popular, it’s 100% because that browser has done nothing to set themselves apart from the crowd.
And, in the EU, if they were to make themselves more popular and become more successful, the EU would say they’re being anti-competitive, so there’s no winning for them I guess.
By the definition of a monopoly, no. That’s why the DMA doesn’t mention monopoly at all because there’s no metric where an Apple product can defined as a monopoly WITHOUT using one of their trademarked names in the description. And, even in the EU, the use of a company’s trademarked name to define a market is not a monopoly, it’s “a list of products made by a company”.
So, in YOUR mind, there will never be a company that will ever perform as well or better than Google or Apple? There’s such a long history of technology companies catching the market leaders stagnating and beating them at their own game (one as recent as 2007, not even 20 years ago) that it surprises me that someone still thinks that current market leaders will be in that position forever.
Yeah, folks that use Apple mobile devices are very profitable to companies in the EU. They recognize that the iPhone MUST be a part of their digital future.
Couldn’t agree with you more on this point. I expect a “truly designed from the ground up for AI” OS here before too long. And it won’t come from Google or Apple - too much legacy support required.
(And before you ask, if I knew what that looked like I’d be working on it 🤣 )
Google and everyone else.
Ironic because I remember very very early on it was called Konqueror. Because they said first came the Navigators, then the Explorers, then the Konquerors. And it really did take over from both of them. And now I feel old.
Apple is finally allowing full versions of Chrome and Firefox to run on the iPhone
The EU browser wars are about to take off in a big way.www.theverge.com
Actually in the EU they don't have to use Webkit.
Good point. I'm not aware that any browsers with alternative engines have launched yet, but this is one to watch.
You’re probably right. But outside of geeks and either Apple or Google ‘haters’ - normal people don’t buy phones for the os it runs. They buy it because they like or want the phone. They want an iPhone, they want a pixel, they want a galaxy. It’s not a new OS that will take the top slot, it’s whether or not the company that makes it also makes a killer phone (or a phone killer) to go with it. Otherwise nothing will budge any time soon.
Yes because I believe that these 2 companies will constantly squeeze out any competitor that tries to come along due to serval factors like the amount of financial support behind them
They are in such a dominant position that even if a start up company made a good OS then they would need major financial support & then get developers to make apps for it & that’s going to be difficult because developers won’t right apps for something if they either have zero customers or low customers because then it wouldn’t be worth their time & resources to do it.
Hence why the windows phone failed.
Again there is currently only 1 company that has the ability & user base to challenge both companies but are restricted in the west
So this is not going to change any time soon
Why would it because google give their OS away for basically nothing and Apple have their loyal customers
That’s not particularly true because a lot of people actually buy the mid to lower tier android phones in most parts of the world
They’re not buying it because it’s Android though. They’re buying it becuase it’s what they can afford, or what they want. All I’m saying is a new OS on its own won’t change the landscape.
Exactly and i can’t see the status quo changing anytime soon in the west in regards to Apple & google because the system is setup away with the two companies
I remember the EU forced this on Windows as well. You had to pick a browser when you first logged in. That’s gone now and Microsoft takes any chance they get to promote Edge. One wrong click by a stressed out user and congratulations, Edge is now the default again.
If only desktop Safari was able to better handle web pages like Reddit and X. I type and 13 second later the sentence comes out, and I am on fast wifi and use a M2 Max Studio. Then there are the random sites that don't play nice with Safari. Add those up and it is unusable on the desktop (for me).
Reddit and X are the two prime examples of the absolute worst practices in web development. Those two sites are specifically designed to hide the content you came there for and push absolutely everything else at you all over the screen.
A lot of websites are designed to be unusable, but they work for me because I have Safari loaded up with content blockers and JavaScript modifiers to make the web usable.
I am using content blockers. I never go on the web without them. Please tell me the ones you use!! I’d give anything to switch back to Safari full time!!
Adguard and StopTheMadness seem to help. Not sure what specifically is causing such performance problems on those sites aside from all the junk they load on the sides, but you can zap those elements permanently with Adguard.
I think StopTheMadness is doing a lot of work in the background that I don't even realize, which is its whole point as the name implies. It automatically rewrites the JavaScript to remove a lot of hostile elements and can be highly customized or disabled entirely on a site by site basis.
Make sure to get StopTheMadness Pro since it's really 2.0 but the App Store makes it hard to upgrade, as its developer Jeff Johnson blogs about at length. $10 one time and totally worth it.
FWIW I wouldn't recommend setting this up just for ad blocking, but I run pi-hole on a home server and don't experience any of your reddit issues. If you have an always-on computer somewhere it might be worth investigating.
People would use it regardless. It's been the best search engine for almost 30 years. People know that.
Right however if we are basing it on that logic then how is any search engine supposed to compete with google if it’s the default one & it’s buried within the settings app that the general public doesn’t even know where it is.
Yet as I said before if there is an option at the start then you might end up picking chrome
But it’s generally not about current users it’s about new consumers so that maybe they pick another option then it turns out to be good then they tell others who then try it.
Just because something has been the status quo for decades doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be challenged & by doing this it means that other companies have no excuse but to improve their product